New Mexico vs Colorado State game cancelled:

[mugtang]

6 minutes ago, Ibanez said:

Well I got it sometime late last week and I've did everything the right way. Social distance and always wore a mask. I had to drive two times this week to Ontario for breathing treatment. And less than 24 hours after I got it, I got calls from the health departments in Oregon and Idaho answering questions. "Where have I been over the last 10 days?"" How many people do I work with?" Things like that.  What's funny is I haven't been on Idaho since September. The one thing every doctor has told me is the mask is more of a placebo effect than a prevention tool. The mask might help, but it's not really something to rely on. And I'm proof. I live in the freaking mountains and aside from going into the office where there is only one or two people there at any time and clocking in on the PC, I can't for the life of me figure out where else I could of got it unless it was the grocery store where everyone wears a mask.

The whole mask thing is a joke. Well, maybe not a joke but people put too much emphasis on it. I am pro empty stadiums all the way. I don't think there is a fight against mask. I think it's more of people have seen enough evidence to know they don't make much difference.

Covid isn't a joke however. It's not the worst I have ever felt but it's up there. My chest always hurts and I am constantly thinking "Heart attack?" It's not something you wanna be thinking about.

I hope you get over it quickly.  I’m surprised I haven’t caught it yet.  I go to the gym all the time, my daughter is in school, she’s in contact with her sisters (they live with her mom) who both go to different schools.  At this point if I get it I’m not too concerned.  If it was 4 years ago I’d be terrified because I was fat and out of shape. 

[Headbutt]

12 minutes ago, OrediggerPoke said:

Scrimmage at the indoor facility seems to be an easy solution.  I can't see any reasons why that wouldn't work unless the field wasn't big enough or something crazy like that.

Not an issue.  Everything I've read says that Addazio doesn't believe in the forward pass anyway.

[SpartanDude]

1 hour ago, #1Stunner said:

NEW MEXICO has the following game scheduled for next week:

Saturday Oct. 31

San Jose State SpartansDreamstyle Stadium, Albuquerque, NM

7:00pm ETFS1

 

COLORADO STATE has the following game scheduled for next week:

Thursday Oct. 29

at Fresno State BulldogsBulldog Stadium, Fresno, CA

10:00pm ETCBSSN

 

 

Maybe both schools should determine now whether they need to take another week off, so that the above schools can find a replacement game if possible?

As stated

UMASS has an opening next week.  https://fbschedules.com/umass-football-schedule/

MIDDLE TENNESSEE also has an opening next week:  https://fbschedules.com/middle-tennessee-football-schedule/

LIBERTY has an opening next week:  https://fbschedules.com/liberty-football-schedule/

 

I wonder if UNM would travel to California to play SJSU at our stadium.   There won't be any fans at either stadium, so it's almost like a neutral site game wherever it's held.  UNM could still be the "home" team, and travel costs could be worked out.  

[Jack Bauer]

34 minutes ago, Ibanez said:

Well I got it sometime late last week and I've did everything the right way. Social distance and always wore a mask. I had to drive two times this week to Ontario for breathing treatment. And less than 24 hours after I got it, I got calls from the health departments in Oregon and Idaho answering questions. "Where have I been over the last 10 days?"" How many people do I work with?" Things like that.  What's funny is I haven't been on Idaho since September. The one thing every doctor has told me is the mask is more of a placebo effect than a prevention tool. The mask might help, but it's not really something to rely on. And I'm proof. I live in the freaking mountains and aside from going into the office where there is only one or two people there at any time and clocking in on the PC, I can't for the life of me figure out where else I could of got it unless it was the grocery store where everyone wears a mask.

The whole mask thing is a joke. Well, maybe not a joke but people put too much emphasis on it. I am pro empty stadiums all the way. I don't think there is a fight against mask. I think it's more of people have seen enough evidence to know they don't make much difference.

Covid isn't a joke however. It's not the worst I have ever felt but it's up there. My chest always hurts and I am constantly thinking "Heart attack?" It's not something you wanna be thinking about.

It's not the end all be all as far as masks, but they help decrease droplet spread. The studies all say it requires nearly everyone to do it, and you can still get sick from someone else not wearing a mask even if you are wearing one.

I'm sorry you've been ill, it's a horrible illness.

[Headbutt]

23 minutes ago, SpartanDude said:

I wonder if UNM would travel to California to play SJSU at our stadium.   There won't be any fans at either stadium, so it's almost like a neutral site game wherever it's held.  UNM could still be the "home" team, and travel costs could be worked out.  

And then UNM would have to quarantine for two weeks when they got back.  UNM football is a no-go at this time, maybe the whole season.

[SpartanDude]

23 minutes ago, Headbutt said:

And then UNM would have to quarantine for two weeks when they got back.  UNM football is a no-go at this time, maybe the whole season.

Maybe UNM should go to Humboldt State and locate there for the season. 

[LoboMan59]

1 hour ago, OrediggerPoke said:

I don't like politics but setting aside the vast constitutional law issues, how does a 14 day quarantine of out of state travelers even rationally relate to public health?  The coronavirus is everywhere (including within the State of New Mexico).  Effectively, the Governor is pushing an almost self imposed death penalty on New Mexico's athletics programs.  I'll be curious how the MWC works out media payouts among members that don't even participate.  I'm certainly glad that Wyoming does not have a governor with that line of thinking.

 

The effect is on far more than just sports. That line of thinking, is because NM is mostly a “travel through/overnight” state. We get our share of visiting tourists, but God knows how many hundreds of thousands of people and or commercial freight and businesses are moving east and west (I40), and north and south (I25) through our state on a daily basis.

She is trying to control the spread, by not letting outside people roam about the state. By mandating them to stay in their hotel rooms, no eating out, no museums or shows, no casinos, etc. A few local casinos are open, but only to in-state residents. Several Native American casinos are located along or very near highways in and out of the state. She sees thing differently than out neighbors do (CA, AZ, CO, TX), that also have the same issues.  We don’t have near the population of our neighbors.

As far as monies from the conference, this may be enough to kill all sports programs at UNM, including our cash cow, mens bb.

 

[Headbutt]

6 minutes ago, LoboMan59 said:

The effect is on far more than just sports. That line of thinking, is because NM is mostly a “travel through/overnight” state. We get our share of visiting tourists, but God knows how many hundreds of thousands of people and or commercial freight and businesses are moving east and west (I40), and north and south (I25) through our state on a daily basis.

She is trying to control the spread, by not letting outside people roam about the state. By mandating them to stay in their hotel rooms, no eating out, no museums or shows, no casinos, etc. A few local casinos are open, but only to in-state residents. Several Native American casinos are located along or very near highways in and out of the state. She sees thing differently than out neighbors do (CA, AZ, CO, TX), that also have the same issues.  We don’t have near the population of our neighbors.

As far as monies from the conference, this may be enough to kill all sports programs at UNM, including our cash cow, mens bb.

 

I understand that Hair want's to give your share of the media contract to BYU. 

 

OK, seriously, you don't know yet what the picture will look like when BB season gets rolling.  Still much unknown.

[LoboMan59]

@Headbutt,that's true, but while most teams are in full bb practice mode right now. we are limited to no more than 5 people at a time, including the coaches... that affects practices and full team scrimmages for the mens and womens teams right now. They had just started to finally getting full practices together. I agree that the basketball teams are still to early to tell, but if we're coming into the second wave of this virus, and with most activities moving indoors, and our governor's management method, I don't see much changing. She's pretty head strong,she's not going by emotion, she's listening to doctors and going with the science in trying to control this virus.

[Headbutt]

8 minutes ago, LoboMan59 said:

@Headbutt,that's true, but while most teams are in full bb practice mode right now. we are limited to no more than 5 people at a time, including the coaches... that affects practices and full team scrimmages for the mens and womens teams right now. They had just started to finally getting full practices together. I agree that the basketball teams are still to early to tell, but if we're coming into the second wave of this virus, and with most activities moving indoors, and our governor's management method, I don't see much changing. She's pretty head strong,she's not going by emotion, she's listening to doctors and going with the science in trying to control this virus.

So, I'll disagree with you here.  She's not listening to doctors and going with science.  Science tells us that the group of individuals we're discussing are at almost zero risk of any harm from the virus.  Just like the common cold.  If she were using science she'd recognize that certain groups are more at risk than others, and take different steps to protect different groups.  Making a blanket policy is nothing less than a power play IMO.  There is every reason in the world to isolate nursing homes, or put in certain safety protocols for certain interactions (public in the grocery store, police on a traffic stop, etc.), there is also no reasonable cause to not let 20 year old kids interact.  None whatsoever.  Yes, that group will get infected, but they won't get any sicker than they would've if they had caught the flu last year.  There is zero scientific reason to screw with practices or cause a college athlete to not be able to compete just on a risk basis.  If they're positive, and it's proven to not be a false positive they need to stay home.  If not, let them play.

[Billings]

5 hours ago, utenation said:

As much as we all love sports, we can't forget the big picture.  Playing sports in 2020 in any form is a huge risk..  220K people dead and rising. 

The hospitalization rate is what is scaring me.    Brutal across the midwest now.  NO way I would want to be a doc or nurse right now.  Non-Maskers are flipping them off basically

[Billings]

10 minutes ago, Headbutt said:

So, I'll disagree with you here.  She's not listening to doctors and going with science.  Science tells us that the group of individuals we're discussing are at almost zero risk of any harm from the virus.  Just like the common cold.  If she were using science she'd recognize that certain groups are more at risk than others, and take different steps to protect different groups.  Making a blanket policy is nothing less than a power play IMO.  There is every reason in the world to isolate nursing homes, or put in certain safety protocols for certain interactions (public in the grocery store, police on a traffic stop, etc.), there is also no reasonable cause to not let 20 year old kids interact.  None whatsoever.  Yes, that group will get infected, but they won't get any sicker than they would've if they had caught the flu last year.  There is zero scientific reason to screw with practices or cause a college athlete to not be able to compete just on a risk basis.  If they're positive, and it's proven to not be a false positive they need to stay home.  If not, let them play.

Unless you put them in a bubble they will infect it through the community.  Personally I think the restrictions should be more targeted to high risk activities.  You should be testing the hell out of every kid on campus.  That is what WYo is doing.

[Headbutt]

Just now, Billings said:

Unless you put them in a bubble they will infect it through the community.  Personally I think the restrictions should be more targeted to high risk activities.  You should be testing the hell out of every kid on campus.  That is what WYo is doing.

I think you put the higher risk individuals in the community in a bubble.  There is no benefit to treating healthy kids like lepers.

[Billings]

3 minutes ago, Headbutt said:

I think you put the higher risk individuals in the community in a bubble.  There is no benefit to treating healthy kids like lepers.

Can't.  Age,  Diabetes, asthma, Chronic diseases and people on immune suppressing meds.  Hell you take out 20% of the US. At one point almost 20% of US teachers where listed as being at high risk.  Somebody has to go into nursing homes to provide care and deliveries.  Simpy not possible to take that many people out of circulation and have a healthy economy

[LoboMan59]

21 minutes ago, Headbutt said:

So, I'll disagree with you here.  She's not listening to doctors and going with science.  Science tells us that the group of individuals we're discussing are at almost zero risk of any harm from the virus.  Just like the common cold.  If she were using science she'd recognize that certain groups are more at risk than others, and take different steps to protect different groups.  Making a blanket policy is nothing less than a power play IMO.  There is every reason in the world to isolate nursing homes, or put in certain safety protocols for certain interactions (public in the grocery store, police on a traffic stop, etc.), there is also no reasonable cause to not let 20 year old kids interact.  None whatsoever.  Yes, that group will get infected, but they won't get any sicker than they would've if they had caught the flu last year.  There is zero scientific reason to screw with practices or cause a college athlete to not be able to compete just on a risk basis.  If they're positive, and it's proven to not be a false positive they need to stay home.  If not, let them play.

You’re talking about herd about immunity among the  young people that are entertaining us with our sports that would have little to no problem handling the virus… How many of your players are local kids, how many are out of state? When they contract the virus, are they infecting only other young people around them, bit not the gen-pop?

If so, then ok, isolate everyone else from them, and play on. But you can’t limit this to just young people. You can’t keep the young away from the old or the elderly, unless you’re ok with only seeing your parents or grandparents from a distance, for who knows how long into the future? 

And your saying that your science is better than her science? She’s doing what she believes is right for the state. Im not smart enough about the science behind managing this virus, to criticize her for listening to who she’s listening to. But, you can google her office number, and let her know which scientists or research she should be listening to.

If we could play all our games on the road, and only let the team come back if they have a bye week, Im ok with that. But the cost of doing that is..........

[Headbutt]

24 minutes ago, Billings said:

Can't.  Age,  Diabetes, asthma, Chronic diseases and people on immune suppressing meds.  Hell you take out 20% of the US. At one point almost 20% of US teachers where listed as being at high risk.  Somebody has to go into nursing homes to provide care and deliveries.  Simpy not possible to take that many people out of circulation and have a healthy economy

Exactly.  We need to quit doing that.

[soupslam1]

With government restrictions it’s doubtful UNM will play any games this season. The MWC needs to terminate the rest of their games and let the teams they were supposed to play try and schedule other teams. 

[Headbutt]

20 minutes ago, soupslam1 said:

With government restrictions it’s doubtful UNM will play any games this season. The MWC needs to terminate the rest of their games and let the teams they were supposed to play try and schedule other teams. 

I doubt that will happen.  However, it appears you're right about the rest of the season and if that is clear to UNM, they should take the lead in that.  If they know they're out of the game, they need to let everybody else know.  I can't blame them for hoping though.  Those kids have worked hard and they deserve every legitimate chance they can get.

[Swoll Cracker]

Bernalillo County, NM has about 30% of the cases per capita compared to Albany County, WY. And Wyoming is not only practicing and playing but also allowing fans to attend games.

Its a huge fail on the part of Craig Thompson and staff that UNM isn’t playing. There should have been agreements with all of the governors and county health departments with agreed upon standards. And if the governor couldnt commit, they should have politely told the school “See ya later”.

[soupslam1]

I’ll be crossing my fingers for every Boise State game this season that it even comes off. Even if the Broncos stay covid free, the opponent has to do the same.