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2 minutes ago, robe said:

What did the last guy get 52 votes. It’s just my uneducated guess. Plus how contentious this will be. This will be the last one on steroids. Especially if Biden wins I don’t think they get the 50 votes. And I doubt they can get this done before the Election. 

True but I believe they have a larger majority this time.  (I could be incorrect here)  too lazy to look it up.

You have to lose 4 Republican votes and keep Manchin which is a high bar.   Count the votes and tell me where you think they are.  

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10 minutes ago, mugtang said:

A couple of things here.

1) RBG was selfish for not retiring during Obama’s second term when her health started to deteriorate.  Say what you want about the rest of her tenure on the Supreme Court, that was exceptionally selfish and stupid. 
 

2) Tearing the country apart to seat a Supreme Court justice quickly is incredibly stupid and short sighted.  

RGB's ego got in the way. With how the media worshipped her I'm not surprised it went to her head. Her frequent absences (and thus lack deliberation of on cases) has made her a complete liability on the court for the last 2 years due to her declining health. 

The democrats and the media want Trump to play nice with the vacancy after the Kavanaugh fiasco and attempting to impeach him based on conspiracy theories for his entire 1st term? Yeah, good luck w/ that. 

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2 hours ago, Rebels18 said:

you're the one lying to your sister about a return to "back alley abortions" 

degenerate.

By what set of reasoning do you deduce that Roe v Wade is safe ?

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1 hour ago, Stealthlobo said:

If your talking God, the Father then sure. If your talking the patient's father than I highly disagree. He does not own his daughter's body.

I'm referring to the father of the baby.

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7 minutes ago, Spaztecs said:

By what set of reasoning do you deduce that Roe v Wade is safe ?

legal precedent. The GOP platform isn't even overturning it---which is just pure fear-mongering by the left. The main GOP platform is that taxpayer money shouldn't pay for it. 

 

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1 hour ago, sactowndog said:

Well under Alabama’s extremely reasonable law a couple whose prenatal child would be born with a terminal and painful medical condition would also have no rights either.  

For the Right, abortion has become a feel good issue. Not an issue with nuance, grey areas, or compassion for women.

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1 hour ago, toonkee said:

Maybe if we stopped talking like the other side is one homogeneous blob of evil we could change that. 

But, but,  They Are !

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1 hour ago, Spaztecs said:

The difference being SCOTUS is not a private entity 

Shallow take.  ^^^

In America,prrivate entities are regulated by public laws.

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1 hour ago, retrofade said:

Watch Trump lose and then nominate himself the next day. :lol:

That would be so Trump

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57 minutes ago, sactowndog said:

So you are advocating restricting what age women can get pregnant also????

While, that does make sense, it ain't gonna happen.

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39 minutes ago, SalinasSpartan said:

What’s interesting is that Graham isn’t that far ahead in the polls, in the most recent Quinnipiac poll he and Harrison were actually tied. Given his comments in 2016 its possible he could pay a big political price for backing an effort to fill the seat. 

Or carry him to victory 🤷‍♂️. Nobody knows 

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6 minutes ago, Rebels18 said:

legal precedent. The GOP platform isn't even overturning it---which is just pure fear-mongering by the left. The main GOP platform is that taxpayer money shouldn't pay for it. 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.kcur.org/politics-elections-and-government/2020-09-19/kansas-and-missouri-republicans-vow-to-fill-rbgs-supreme-court-seat-during-trumps-term%3f_amp=true
 

Missouri Sen. Josh Hawley was on a list of potential justices that Trump floated earlier this month. At the time, the first-term Republican said he was not interested.

In a statement released Saturday morning, Hawley called on Republicans to reject any nominee who has not committed to overturn Roe v. Wade, the 1973 decision that gave women abortion rights. Hawley added in a tweet that other GOP senators should “take the same stand.”

it’s hard to tell if you are disingenuous or just stupid.

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1 hour ago, halfmanhalfbronco said:

 

De mortuis nil nisi bonum

 

I repeat.  RBG was an egotistical moron, whose legacy should be questioned, as her selfishness has caused the country a big problem.

 

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10 minutes ago, Rebels18 said:

legal precedent. The GOP platform isn't even overturning it---which is just pure fear-mongering by the left. The main GOP platform is that taxpayer money shouldn't pay for it. 

 

Good God....this is the sort of ridiculousness that is deserving of a good eye-rolling gif. 

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6 minutes ago, sactowndog said:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.kcur.org/politics-elections-and-government/2020-09-19/kansas-and-missouri-republicans-vow-to-fill-rbgs-supreme-court-seat-during-trumps-term%3f_amp=true
 

Missouri Sen. Josh Hawley was on a list of potential justices that Trump floated earlier this month. At the time, the first-term Republican said he was not interested.

In a statement released Saturday morning, Hawley called on Republicans to reject any nominee who has not committed to overturn Roe v. Wade, the 1973 decision that gave women abortion rights. Hawley added in a tweet that other GOP senators should “take the same stand.”

it’s hard to tell if you are disingenuous or just stupid.

You're stupid if you believe the opinion of a couple of congressman represents the entire conservative--or Trump's platform.  He's just pandering to his base which is overwhelmingly Christian and thus pro-life. 

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59 minutes ago, Rebels18 said:

Yes, the Human Life Protection act is based on these restrictions which I will post again are extremely reasonable:

RESTRICTIONS ON ABORTION
In Alabama, the following restrictions on abortion were in effect as of September 1, 2020:

-A patient must receive state-directed counseling that includes information designed to discourage the patient from having an abortion, and then wait 48 hours before the procedure is provided. -- wow 48 hour counseling to make sure the mom isn't making a rash decision
-Health plans offered in the state’s health exchange under the Affordable Care Act can only cover abortion in cases of life endangerment, rape or incest.-- Pay for your own mistakes. Taxpayers shouldn't be burdened by this. 
-The use of telemedicine to administer medication abortion is prohibited.--no more video conference abortions. Drive your ass to a clinic. 
-The parent of a minor must consent before an abortion is provided. This is obvious
-Public funding is available for abortion only in cases of life endangerment, rape or incest.--Pay for your own murder, don't burden the taxpayer because you didn't want to use a rubber. 
-A patient must undergo an ultrasound before obtaining an abortion; the provider must offer the patient the option to view the image.---A last ditch effort to appeal to a mother's moral dignity and take a look at the life growing inside of her before killing it
-An abortion may be performed at 20 or more weeks postfertilization (22 weeks after the last menstrual period) only in cases of life endangerment or severely compromised physical health. This law is based on the assertion, which is inconsistent with scientific evidence and has been rejected by the medical community, that a fetus can feel pain at that point in pregnancy. --no abortions after 22 weeks which the definition of  "life endangering"  is becoming very ambiguous w/ pro-abortion people to the point of loophole
-The state requires abortion clinics to meet unnecessary and burdensome standards related to their physical plant, equipment and staffing.- Love to see this being spun into negative. High standards for an abortion clinic's equipment, staffing, and plant is not a bad thing. Mostly hygienic. 

These are good points, but you and I both know the level of standards will be so high that no facility will be able to meet them.

Also, does Bammy allow for patients to receive pro abortion counseling services ?

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