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Woodward book: Trump says he knew coronavirus was ‘deadly’ and worse than the flu while intentionally misleading Americans

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15 minutes ago, AndroidAggie said:

the guy is literally one of the most thoughtful and well read and well experienced posters on this board and you think his posting intentions are about you?

come on, man...

That particular post of his certainly was. 

I'm fine with people throwing shots. It was just obnoxiously long winded. 

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54 minutes ago, renoskier said:

Obama would have been there.

Trump is a pussy.

And get hammered by the right-wing media for wearing the wrong color suit!

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1 minute ago, Bob said:

Do any of you guys actually think that the number of deaths would be different if another man were president?

I don't think the difference would be as drastic as people are saying.  But we have other data points based on how other countries are doing and how their governments handled it:

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1104709/coronavirus-deaths-worldwide-per-million-inhabitants/

Just eyeballing it, there's a loose correlation between how seriously a country took it and how many deaths they had.

 

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16 minutes ago, Bob said:

Do any of you guys actually think that the number of deaths would be different if another man were president?

Yes. How many is an unanswerable question at this point, but it’s clear that inept leadership has been part of the problem, and that starts at the top.

At the very least, clear, honest leadership wouldn't have convinced many that this was just the flu.

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And on March 19, as the virus was exploding, Trump told Woodward: “To be honest with you...I wanted to always play it down. I still want to play it down, because I don’t want to create a panic.”

“We don’t want to instill panic. We don’t want to jump up and down” and “scare everybody,” he said, adding: “The last thing you want to do is create a panic in the country.” Trump said he was “very open” with Woodward and anybody else.

Trump specifically said he wanted to keep the calm and not create chaos about it.  As much as you want to pretend Trump lied about it, he created a Pres. Task force on Jan 29 and he banned travel from China on Jan 31 and setup quarantine's for people coming from China.  
On Feb. 1 the US had 8 known cases.  At that time it did not look like it was going to be as bad and we were already taking steps to prevent it spreading.  The thing is more people had it than was known.  
Trump could not have shutdown the country in Feb. as it would take every governor and congress as well to actually put something like that into effect.  Trump shouldn't have downplayed it at all, but neither should have the Dems at that time who even called what things he did do as xenophobic etc.  

 

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6 minutes ago, pokerider said:

And on March 19, as the virus was exploding, Trump told Woodward: “To be honest with you...I wanted to always play it down. I still want to play it down, because I don’t want to create a panic.”

“We don’t want to instill panic. We don’t want to jump up and down” and “scare everybody,” he said, adding: “The last thing you want to do is create a panic in the country.” Trump said he was “very open” with Woodward and anybody else.

Trump specifically said he wanted to keep the calm and not create chaos about it.  As much as you want to pretend Trump lied about it, he created a Pres. Task force on Jan 29 and he banned travel from China on Jan 31 and setup quarantine's for people coming from China.  
On Feb. 1 the US had 8 known cases.  At that time it did not look like it was going to be as bad and we were already taking steps to prevent it spreading.  The thing is more people had it than was known.  
Trump could not have shutdown the country in Feb. as it would take every governor and congress as well to actually put something like that into effect.  Trump shouldn't have downplayed it at all, but neither should have the Dems at that time who even called what things he did do as xenophobic etc.  

 

I love it when politicians outright lie to prevent us from making decisions on real information. Especially one as calm and rational as the president, who in no way would ever stoke fear in his supporters.

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46 minutes ago, Bob said:

Do any of you guys actually think that the number of deaths would be different if another man were president?

You’re phukking joking right..

 

There’s already countless news stories on people who believed the virus was a hoax because of Trump and lived recklessly and died..

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35 minutes ago, pokerider said:

And on March 19, as the virus was exploding, Trump told Woodward: “To be honest with you...I wanted to always play it down. I still want to play it down, because I don’t want to create a panic.”

“We don’t want to instill panic. We don’t want to jump up and down” and “scare everybody,” he said, adding: “The last thing you want to do is create a panic in the country.” Trump said he was “very open” with Woodward and anybody else.

Trump specifically said he wanted to keep the calm and not create chaos about it.  As much as you want to pretend Trump lied about it, he created a Pres. Task force on Jan 29 and he banned travel from China on Jan 31 and setup quarantine's for people coming from China.  
On Feb. 1 the US had 8 known cases.  At that time it did not look like it was going to be as bad and we were already taking steps to prevent it spreading.  The thing is more people had it than was known.  
Trump could not have shutdown the country in Feb. as it would take every governor and congress as well to actually put something like that into effect. 
Trump shouldn't have downplayed it at all, but neither should have the Dems at that time who even called what things he did do as xenophobic etc.  
 

Isn't this what people are upset about?  The actual President.  Of the United States.  Downplayed a virus.  Folks can use all the "But the dems..." comments, and they are true.  But the dems are not the President.  The President has both real and symbolic powers as the leader of the US, and he was wrong in how he used them here.  No more, no less.

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Just now, smltwnrckr said:

They say the Jet's lost a step or two...

not those feet in those shoes.   not the one who called us back from watching the fireworks during our only night game of the summer.

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2 minutes ago, AndroidAggie said:

not those feet in those shoes.   not the one who called us back from watching the fireworks during our only night game of the summer.

benny-the-sandlot.jpg

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