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Votr XII Exodus back then

Which one made the best move  

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  1. 1. from XII to elsewhere



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3 minutes ago, ph90702 said:

Texas A&M.  They make more money in the SEC, and it’s the right geographic fit.  The only downside is that they have lost their Texas rivalry.

Conference revenue distribution last year was higher in the Big 10 than the SEC.

Aligning with the B1G universities is a huge win.  Nebraska and it is not close.

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12 minutes ago, halfmanhalfbronco said:

Conference revenue distribution last year was higher in the Big 10 than the SEC.

Aligning with the B1G universities is a huge win.  Nebraska and it is not close.

Yea I don’t think this is even a debate. I think A&M is close, but all things considered it’s got to be Nebraska.

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59 minutes ago, halfmanhalfbronco said:

Conference revenue distribution last year was higher in the Big 10 than the SEC.

Aligning with the B1G universities is a huge win.  Nebraska and it is not close.

For once you are completely correct.

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1 hour ago, halfmanhalfbronco said:

Conference revenue distribution last year was higher in the Big 10 than the SEC.

Aligning with the B1G universities is a huge win.  Nebraska and it is not close.

So what!?  Nebraska hardly produces any D1 players.  Texas A&M doesn’t have to leave their state to recruit.

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1 hour ago, halfmanhalfbronco said:

Conference revenue distribution last year was higher in the Big 10 than the SEC.

Aligning with the B1G universities is a huge win.  Nebraska and it is not close.

 

Might want to check those pay outs, Rutgers and Maryland don't get full shares which helps, the SEC is also about to renew and were getting paid next to nothing for that CBS contract.

 

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3 minutes ago, JoeBlo said:

 

Might want to check those pay outs, Rutgers and Maryland don't get full shares which helps, the SEC is also about to renew and were getting paid next to nothing for that CBS contract.

 

Why?  What I said was 100% correct.  Rutgers and Maryland not getting full shares would not change that, either.  The gap was large.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/2019/05/15/big-ten-revenue-hit-nearly-759-million-fiscal-2018/3686089002/

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1 hour ago, ph90702 said:

So what!?  Nebraska hardly produces any D1 players.  Texas A&M doesn’t have to leave their state to recruit.

What does that have to do with who moved to a better situation?  The B1G is a superior conference affiliation.

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The creation of the Big XII started the clock on Nebraska's departure.  Once the Nebraska vs Oklahoma rivalry bacame a two years on two years off rather than annual game and was moved away from Thanksgiving the rivalry began to suffer.  Nebraska really needed that rivalry to continue for recruiting and national poll/media relevance.  Oklahoma needed Texas as their main rival so much more than they needed Nebraska as they recruit Texas so heavily.  I could have been in favor of Nebraska remaining in the Big XII if and only if the annual rivalry game with Oklahoma was restored.  That said, Nebraskas 2nd and 3rd most important conference rivals, Missouri and Colorado where heading for the door as well.  Colorado had made no secret of the desire to join the PAC.  Mizzou was either B1G or SEC bound possibly even if Nebraska had stayed in the Big XII.  Culturally, Nebraska fits the B1G about as well as it fits the Big XII.  That's really not an issue.  What is an issue is Nebraska used to recruit Texas pretty well and that ability has greatly diminished.  I would say A&M has faired the best,  Mizzou and Nebraska about even and for sure without a doubt CU got the boobie prize.  The PAC is and for the foreseeable future will continue to be a football joke!

 

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1 hour ago, ph90702 said:

So what!?  Nebraska hardly produces any D1 players.  Texas A&M doesn’t have to leave their state to recruit.

While not related to the poll question this is exactly why Nebraska having won 5 naty's is quite an accomplishment for a state that produces little D1 talent and is bordered almost completely by states that produce very very little D1 talent.

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2 hours ago, halfmanhalfbronco said:

What does that have to do with who moved to a better situation?  The B1G is a superior conference affiliation.

Not true at all.  The SEC puts way more players in the NFL.  The SEC has more good baseball teams.  The SEC is more than adequate at basketball.  Lastly, SEC schools, as a whole, make more overall revenue than B1G schools.

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2 hours ago, NorthWestCowboy said:

The creation of the Big XII started the clock on Nebraska's departure.  Once the Nebraska vs Oklahoma rivalry bacame a two years on two years off rather than annual game and was moved away from Thanksgiving the rivalry began to suffer.  Nebraska really needed that rivalry to continue for recruiting and national poll/media relevance.  Oklahoma needed Texas as their main rival so much more than they needed Nebraska as they recruit Texas so heavily.  I could have been in favor of Nebraska remaining in the Big XII if and only if the annual rivalry game with Oklahoma was restored.  That said, Nebraskas 2nd and 3rd most important conference rivals, Missouri and Colorado where heading for the door as well.  Colorado had made no secret of the desire to join the PAC.  Mizzou was either B1G or SEC bound possibly even if Nebraska had stayed in the Big XII.  Culturally, Nebraska fits the B1G about as well as it fits the Big XII.  That's really not an issue.  What is an issue is Nebraska used to recruit Texas pretty well and that ability has greatly diminished.  I would say A&M has faired the best,  Mizzou and Nebraska about even and for sure without a doubt CU got the boobie prize.  The PAC is and for the foreseeable future will continue to be a football joke!

 

The entire west sucks. Utah is probably best team over the last 5 years or so. That isn’t good. You could even that argue BSU is. 

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Texas A&M went to the better football conference and got out from under UTs shadow. They not only are able to recruit in Texas they expanded their recruiting area into the southeast in particular Florida. The Big Ten is by far the better academic conference, but we’re talking primarily football. 

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4 hours ago, halfmanhalfbronco said:

Why?  What I said was 100% correct.  Rutgers and Maryland not getting full shares would not change that, either.  The gap was large.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/2019/05/15/big-ten-revenue-hit-nearly-759-million-fiscal-2018/3686089002/

 

The gap is because the other 12 schools get the extra money that should be split evenly with rutgers and maryland.

If you take out the difference in shares, the Big 10 makes about 2m+ more per team than the SEC who is in an older contract. CBS 3:30 game is like 60m total contract, not a year, the entire thing.

Its SEC 51.5m and BIG 54m that's just conference generated money, each school then produces it's own revenue, this is where the SEC separates itself. Michigan and OSU rank up there, Penn St is pretty good too. SEC has Texas AnM, LSU, Alabama, Florida, Auburn, and Georgia. OU and Texas are pretty good from the Big XII, Notre Dame and Clemson up there for the ACC but none of those leagues or the big 10 are stacked like the SEC. 

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17 minutes ago, JoeBlo said:

 

The gap is because the other 12 schools get the extra money that should be split evenly with rutgers and maryland.

If you take out the difference in shares, the Big 10 makes about 2m+ more per team than the SEC who is in an older contract. CBS 3:30 game is like 60m total contract, not a year, the entire thing.

Its SEC 51.5m and BIG 54m that's just conference generated money, each school then produces it's own revenue, this is where the SEC separates itself. Michigan and OSU rank up there, Penn St is pretty good too. SEC has Texas AnM, LSU, Alabama, Florida, Auburn, and Georgia. OU and Texas are pretty good from the Big XII, Notre Dame and Clemson up there for the ACC but none of those leagues or the big 10 are stacked like the SEC. 

 They distributed almost 100 million more.

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