Nebraska Breaks Ranks - Decides to Play the Season?

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11 hours ago, Ibanez said:

Lincoln is a cool town. Actually the state of Nebraska is so underappreciated. 

You should grab @Did I hear a WOOSH? And go visit the beaches on North Sentinal Island next. Awesome place. Talk to the locals when you get there.

I'm joking I guess.

I wanted to try to go up to the capital dome but didn’t have time. I have an office there so I’ll be back at some point. 

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I have worked with the area office in Denver a few times. I was slated to go to Seattle before Covid hit. Trumps guy is slashing expenses so I might not travel much now. 

[RSF]

The slapdown of Nebraska by the conference is complete.

 

[#1Stunner]

20 minutes ago, RSF said:

The slapdown of Nebraska by the conference is complete.

 

Nebraska should join the Big12.

I realize it would be moving to a lesser conference, with a lower payout.  But their fanbase seemed to enjoy the Big12 a lot more.

[nocoolnamejim]

2 hours ago, #1Stunner said:

Nebraska should join the Big12.

I realize it would be moving to a lesser conference, with a lower payout.  But their fanbase seemed to enjoy the Big12 a lot more.

I actually agree that Nebraska is a better fit in the Big-12. 

But, selfishly, I kind of hope they don't. Basically the most realistic potential option for BSU and BYU getting into a P5 conference is as a pair if the Big-12 decides to expand. Neither seems likely to be Pac-12 bound any time in the near future, so I'd prefer that Nebraska not return to the Big-12 and suck up one of the spots.

[#1Stunner]

17 minutes ago, nocoolnamejim said:

I actually agree that Nebraska is a better fit in the Big-12. 

But, selfishly, I kind of hope they don't. Basically the most realistic potential option for BSU and BYU getting into a P5 conference is as a pair if the Big-12 decides to expand. Neither seems likely to be Pac-12 bound any time in the near future, so I'd prefer that Nebraska not return to the Big-12 and suck up one of the spots.

Good point.   

I wish the BIG12 hadn't added West Virginia.  They are an outlier, and makes BIG12 expansion west difficult. 

[JoeBlo]

On 8/12/2020 at 11:20 AM, Ibanez said:

I propose a trade. The B1G trade Nebraska for West Virginia.

And then the AAC can trade Tulsa and Tulane for Boise State.

 

WV has zero chance of ever making the big 10, who like the ivy care more about academics than any sport.

Boise has zero shot at ever getting back/to the AAC. You burned that bridge behind you and they have no reason to add a program who gets paid extra money and still struggles to win an inferior league and regularly finishes behind the AAC's champ and sometimes second place teams in the rankings.

The AAC has eyes for the Academies and BYU anyone else is a non-starter, especially since it seems divisional requirements are done.

[JoeBlo]

On 8/12/2020 at 11:47 AM, OrediggerPoke said:

I’m not the biggest fan of how Title IX has been interpreted.  People can bury their head in the sand all they want.  But prior decisions have said economic factors are not to be weighed when considering women’s rights to compete in sports.  The benefit that will be argued is the actual ability to play the sport.  It won’t take a great lawyer to show that special accommodations were made to the men’s football team to allow them to play in the fall but none of which were made for women.  
 

Once again - we would all love to ignore title ix and focus on economic realities.  But prior precedent isn’t going to allow universities that receive federal funding to do that.  

 

Actually that's not what previous ruling have said. It is not a requirement that the women's sports get the exact same thing as men's. Otherwise you would see a lot more impressive volleyball only arenas and a lot higher paid softball coaches.

The key is in reasonable fairness, are you attempting to give female sports the same sort of support and opportunity that you provide to male sports.

 

Secondly Covid would be extenuating circumstances that the judge would take into account, including feasibility with expense being part part of that. Doesn't mean it's a free pass, only that it will be considered.

 

Thirdly, it does not require that the equality be all at the same time and balance through out the three seasons of NCAA competition. If the sport was moved to spring but will still be played you will have a difficult time proving that in a pandemic it should have to be played in fall. Especially considering some of these sports are indoor and therefore will fit in any season. For low revenue sports even getting thirty fans in is money that makes the sport feasible, a temporary delay to capture that income is not onerous, especially when it may actually add to the safety of the players and is in cohesion with other measures taken by the university in this unusual current circumstance.

[nocoolnamejim]

24 minutes ago, JoeBlo said:

 

WV has zero chance of ever making the big 10, who like the ivy care more about academics than any sport.

Boise has zero shot at ever getting back/to the AAC. You burned that bridge behind you and they have no reason to add a program who gets paid extra money and still struggles to win an inferior league and regularly finishes behind the AAC's champ and sometimes second place teams in the rankings.

The AAC has eyes for the Academies and BYU anyone else is a non-starter, especially since it seems divisional requirements are done.

Something tells me that the AAC, which dearly desires to be considered a part of the P6 conferences, would have some interest in a football program that has finished in the final top-25 nationally 13 out of the last 18 seasons.

I suspect a more realistic appraisal of the situation would be that both sides would have some interest, but both would have concerns that would need to be worked out. 

Certainly how the last divorce happened would be something that would need to be discussed, but the folks running these things are adults and would be willing to work through any lingering emotional issues if there was benefit to be had on both sides.

[Ibanez]

54 minutes ago, JoeBlo said:

 

WV has zero chance of ever making the big 10, who like the ivy care more about academics than any sport.

Boise has zero shot at ever getting back/to the AAC. You burned that bridge behind you and they have no reason to add a program who gets paid extra money and still struggles to win an inferior league and regularly finishes behind the AAC's champ and sometimes second place teams in the rankings.

The AAC has eyes for the Academies and BYU anyone else is a non-starter, especially since it seems divisional requirements are done.

Fine then. Three way trade. Mizzou to the B1G, Nebraska to the Big 12, West Virginia to the SEC.

You really think Boise State burned the bridge? Go ahead and keep this thread book marked. We will discuss this again early next year.

I've said it for months. The MWC is gonna look a little different soon. Ill put my rep and my account on it.

[RamDFW]

58 minutes ago, Ibanez said:

Fine then. Three way trade. Mizzou to the B1G, Nebraska to the Big 12, West Virginia to the SEC.

LOL Mizzou isn't AAU and they aren't leaving the SEC.

[JoeBlo]

1 hour ago, nocoolnamejim said:

Something tells me that the AAC, which dearly desires to be considered a part of the P6 conferences, would have some interest in a football program that has finished in the final top-25 nationally 13 out of the last 18 seasons.

I suspect a more realistic appraisal of the situation would be that both sides would have some interest, but both would have concerns that would need to be worked out. 

Certainly how the last divorce happened would be something that would need to be discussed, but the folks running these things are adults and would be willing to work through any lingering emotional issues if there was benefit to be had on both sides.

 

Tell that to the Navy AD who told Boise to kick rocks to start with. Bringing Boise does nothing, they are getting paid extra by the MWC and can't get them to a NY6 while the AAC has sent 3 different teams. A MAC team has made the NY6 as much as Boise and is closer to their footprint.

BYU, Army, and Air Force are the only teams they have an interest in. 

 

 

54 minutes ago, Ibanez said:

Fine then. Three way trade. Mizzou to the B1G, Nebraska to the Big 12, West Virginia to the SEC.

You really think Boise State burned the bridge? Go ahead and keep this thread book marked. We will discuss this again early next year.

I've said it for months. The MWC is gonna look a little different soon. Ill put my rep and my account on it.

 

Ahem, did Boise burn that bridge? Yes, you came in thinking those programs were like the WAC you were leaving and the MW you would join. You asked for extra money like a tough guy and got laughed at and told to leave. Since then you haven't even consistently won a weaker league or proven a threat to them. In other words they are still just laughing at you. Suing the MW doesn't make you more attractive either. That bridge is burned, what ever the MW looks like and your sources are shit as has been proven on this board by past predictions, that's where you are going to be. 

It would probably be a good idea to play nice, but Boise has played the bully for so long you all won't do it. We'll see how that works out as you continue to get caught by programs like SDSU and Fresno who already are on your heels. So bookmark this and I'll see you in two years if we still have college football.

[RamDFW]

2 hours ago, #1Stunner said:

Good point.   

I wish the BIG12 hadn't added West Virginia.  They are an outlier, and makes BIG12 expansion west difficult. 

Why would the Big 12 want to expand westward?  Football is dying in the mountain and pacific time zones.  

[Ibanez]

24 minutes ago, JoeBlo said:

 

Tell that to the Navy AD who told Boise to kick rocks to start with. Bringing Boise does nothing, they are getting paid extra by the MWC and can't get them to a NY6 while the AAC has sent 3 different teams. A MAC team has made the NY6 as much as Boise and is closer to their footprint.

BYU, Army, and Air Force are the only teams they have an interest in. 

 

 

 

Ahem, did Boise burn that bridge? Yes, you came in thinking those programs were like the WAC you were leaving and the MW you would join. You asked for extra money like a tough guy and got laughed at and told to leave. Since then you haven't even consistently won a weaker league or proven a threat to them. In other words they are still just laughing at you. Suing the MW doesn't make you more attractive either. That bridge is burned, what ever the MW looks like and your sources are shit as has been proven on this board by past predictions, that's where you are going to be. 

It would probably be a good idea to play nice, but Boise has played the bully for so long you all won't do it. We'll see how that works out as you continue to get caught by programs like SDSU and Fresno who already are on your heels. So bookmark this and I'll see you in two years if we still have college football.

Bringing the only team in the MWC that has a pulse outside of our conference footprint brings nothing? OK. I can't even take this conversation seriously now. And we didn't ask for extra money when we left, the MWC offered. Also, Boise State, Hawaii, Utah State, and Fresno State proved one thing, the AAC was as good if not better than the MWC when they got here. So I have no idea what you're talking about. Only SDSU can hold their head up high.

[RSF]

27 minutes ago, RamDFW said:

LOL Mizzou isn't AAU and they aren't leaving the SEC.

Yes, they are.  Since 1908.

 

But no, they arent leaving the SEC.

[jdgaucho]

2 hours ago, nocoolnamejim said:

Something tells me that the AAC, which dearly desires to be considered a part of the P6 conferences, would have some interest in a football program that has finished in the final top-25 nationally 13 out of the last 18 seasons.

I suspect a more realistic appraisal of the situation would be that both sides would have some interest, but both would have concerns that would need to be worked out. 

Certainly how the last divorce happened would be something that would need to be discussed, but the folks running these things are adults and would be willing to work through any lingering emotional issues if there was benefit to be had on both sides.

 

One issue would be what happens to basketball, though I suspect if Boise is doing the fb-only thing again then the American could pitch in a series or two every year in hoops to help out.

One issue I would NOT have is with the negotiators as Boise has a different president now.  Dr Tromp will be more diplomatic.

[Ibanez]

1 minute ago, RSF said:

Yes, there are.  Since 1908.

 

But no, they arent leaving the SEC.

For the B1G if the $ was similar? Not sure about that. An argument I hear almost constantly is that Missouri really has nothing in common with the rest of the SEC. Its the same argument we hear about Nebraska and the B1G.

Would they leave? Don't know. Would Colorado leave the Big 12? Would Maryland leave the ACC? Would A&M leave Texas? Would Rutgers be a P4 school? (Seriously, how in the +++++ did that one happen?)

We have seen many strange things...

[jdgaucho]

1 hour ago, Ibanez said:

Fine then. Three way trade. Mizzou to the B1G, Nebraska to the Big 12, West Virginia to the SEC.

You really think Boise State burned the bridge? Go ahead and keep this thread book marked. We will discuss this again early next year.

I've said it for months. The MWC is gonna look a little different soon. Ill put my rep and my account on it.

 

I'll get ready the welcome back carpet.

[jdgaucho]

Just now, Ibanez said:

For the B1G if the $ was similar? Not sure about that. An argument I hear almost constantly is that Missouri really has nothing in common with the rest of the SEC. Its the same argument we hear about Nebraska and the B1G.

Would they leave? Don't know. Would Colorado leave the Big 12? Would Maryland leave the ACC? Would A&M leave Texas? Would Rutgers be a P4 school? (Seriously, how in the +++++ did that one happen?)

We have seen many strange things...

 

I'll tell you how that one happened.  Eyeballs.  Proximity to NY.  Rutgers is a hot mess in athletics but cashed in because of their location.

[RSF]

4 minutes ago, Ibanez said:

For the B1G if the $ was similar? Not sure about that. An argument I hear almost constantly is that Missouri really has nothing in common with the rest of the SEC. Its the same argument we hear about Nebraska and the B1G.

Would they leave? Don't know. Would Colorado leave the Big 12? Would Maryland leave the ACC? Would A&M leave Texas? Would Rutgers be a P4 school? (Seriously, how in the +++++ did that one happen?)

We have seen many strange things...

There's one reason why Missouri is in the SEC.  The Big 10 didnt want them.  The reasons why havent changed.  And if Nebraska isnt a fit for the B10, then neither are Iowa and Illinois.