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1 hour ago, TheSanDiegan said:

Maybe if you got Hooked on Phonics® you would bother reading some of the shit you post? :blink:

From the Epidemiology and Infection link in the very same FreedomEagle.Patriot.FlagBoner.com blog cited in your post:

  • Cowling, B. et al. (2010) "Face masks to prevent transmission of influenza virus: A systematic review", Epidemiology and Infection, 138(4), 449-456. doi:10.1017/S0950268809991658
None of the studies reviewed showed a benefit from wearing a mask, in either HCW or community members in households (H). See summary Tables 1 and 2 therein.
 
 
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2 hours ago, tspoke said:

Hey Bob. In you list of points how are 1 and 2 both true? They aren't effective yet are dangerous for people to wear. Either they restrict airflow or they don't. Which is it?

You think that masks are impermeable barriers? Air gets in and out albeit restricted. Certain molecules or ‘particles’, such as COVID 19 move quite freely through the permeable barrier knows as a mask, aerosolized and droplets. In addition you touch your virus-soaked mask dozens of times per day and then touch stuff that others touch and they have a soaking, moist, virus breeding ground attached to their face that they then touch that is not capable of protecting them from Covid because it literally can’t filter particles that small. Not sure what’s hard to understand about this

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45 minutes ago, Bob said:
  • Cowling, B. et al. (2010) "Face masks to prevent transmission of influenza virus: A systematic review", Epidemiology and Infection, 138(4), 449-456. doi:10.1017/S0950268809991658
None of the studies reviewed showed a benefit from wearing a mask, in either HCW or community members in households (H). See summary Tables 1 and 2 therein.
 
 

Then don't wear one.  Simple and plain.  But don't complain if a store won't let you in their private business.  Again, simple and plain.

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8 hours ago, bornontheblue said:

Why do the masks make people so angry. I just had someone freak out on me in Starbucks and call me a Communist of all things because I was wearing a mask. Almost ended up in a fistfight in Starbucks. 

 

First of all why are you Starbucks? Their coffee blows I think

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1 hour ago, SDSUfan said:

Especially when everyone knows TRUMP is the source of all evil.

LOL

 

 

How is that different from Democrat Derangement Syndrome?

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6 minutes ago, Wyoguns said:

First of all why are you Starbucks? Their coffee blows I think

I'm not a coffee snob... I'm just passionate about making you feel ...

:P

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9 minutes ago, bornontheblue said:

It’s on the way to my work 

So is McDonalds I’m betting.  Seriously I can’t drink Starbucks.  So bitter unless you put enough sugar in it to give you diabetes!  Haha

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2 hours ago, SDSUfan said:

even during this "peak" , 95 out of every 100 people tested are NOT infected.  The spread of COVID outdoors is practically impossible. If she felt "threatened" she could take her old, evil,  violent, ignorant Democrat  ass to a safe, socially distant location.

Why are Democrats so violent?

It's not all Dems. It's the PC I'm offended by everything crowd 

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19 minutes ago, Wyoguns said:

First of all why are you Starbucks? Their coffee blows I think

Their coffee's good...but no way in hell I pay $2+ for a cup of coffee. :oldman:

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4 hours ago, Bob said:

First of all they don’t work and defy accepted, conventional scientific knowledge. 

Literally the links you posted says that they have a logical mechanistic effect (also the links you post are for influenza)

4 hours ago, Bob said:

Secondly, they are dangerous for numerous people to wear.

What people? 

4 hours ago, Bob said:

Third, I don’t like being told what to do.

So you're a 2 year old

4 hours ago, Bob said:

Fourth, The ppl who wear them are sheep.

Sheep! Yes! like people who drive on the right side of the road and who don't have campfires during red flag days right?

4 hours ago, Bob said:

Fifth, most who wear them are self righteous.

You're the most self righteous person on this thread by a long shot so you may want to revise your theory

4 hours ago, Bob said:

Sixth, my body my choice lol. 

Literally not about your body nor could it ever be construed to be lol

4 hours ago, Bob said:

Seventh, masks are not conducive to children of all ages to learning good interpersonal communication skills.

And as we all know, children of all ages are ONLY capable of learning good interpersonal communication skills while waiting to get their basket checked at wal mart

4 hours ago, Bob said:

Eighth, masks remind me of repressive Muslim culture.

like, how? 

4 hours ago, Bob said:

Ninth, disobedient slaves’ mouths were masked and muzzled to signify their voices were taken away and the currently mask situation is akin to that

bob

you can talk with a mask on

just... try it

2 hours ago, Bob said:

There is something called “bacteria”. Look it up. Usually orders of magnitude larger than viruses and can actually be effectively filtered

wait what? Do you think bacteria and virii are tiny birds or some shit that glide out of our mouths on their own?

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1 hour ago, Bob said:

You think that masks are impermeable barriers? Air gets in and out albeit restricted. Certain molecules or ‘particles’, such as COVID 19 move quite freely through the permeable barrier knows as a mask, aerosolized and droplets. In addition you touch your virus-soaked mask dozens of times per day and then touch stuff that others touch and they have a soaking, moist, virus breeding ground attached to their face that they then touch that is not capable of protecting them from Covid because it literally can’t filter particles that small. Not sure what’s hard to understand about this

I don't think it's useful to discuss the effectiveness of masks.  The reality is beyond their impact at the margins as a means of controlling spread, there's additional benefit if it gives people the confidence to get out of the house and re-engage in the economy.  In the meantime, watch the numbers.  COVID is burning itself out just like practically every other virus that has afflicted mankind.That's the quiet consensus.

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20 minutes ago, SDSUfan said:

I don't think it's useful to discuss the effectiveness of masks.  The reality is beyond their impact at the margins as a means of controlling spread, there's additional benefit if it gives people the confidence to get out of the house and re-engage in the economy.  In the meantime, watch the numbers.  COVID is burning itself out just like practically every other virus that has afflicted mankind.That's the quiet consensus.

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3 hours ago, Spaztecs said:

Completely uncalled for. 

Retract this before Mug washes your mouth out.

It's Boob season. I have a fish and game license to tit slap that walking tit slap.

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2 hours ago, Bob said:
  • Cowling, B. et al. (2010) "Face masks to prevent transmission of influenza virus: A systematic review", Epidemiology and Infection, 138(4), 449-456. doi:10.1017/S0950268809991658
None of the studies reviewed showed a benefit from wearing a mask, in either HCW or community members in households (H). See summary Tables 1 and 2 therein.

Good job numbnuts. You just demonstrated the profound ability to quote some nuthugger's blog - I think you just earned a merit badge for your MAGA hat.

Try actually reading the studies dufus.

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20 minutes ago, halfmanhalfbronco said:

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All of the most populous counties in California have an R(eff) at or below 1, indicating stable or slowing spread.

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The 14 day running average in SD County indicates the same

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Other important charts detailing where the problem is

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The data indicate that fully 50% of all fatalities occur in care facilities

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3 hours ago, Bob said:
  • Cowling, B. et al. (2010) "Face masks to prevent transmission of influenza virus: A systematic review", Epidemiology and Infection, 138(4), 449-456. doi:10.1017/S0950268809991658
None of the studies reviewed showed a benefit from wearing a mask, in either HCW or community members in households (H). See summary Tables 1 and 2 therein.
 
 

That study was 10 years old. The reason why masks weren't heavily recommended at first was because there just wasn't enough clinical evidence that they work. Guess what? With research, things change. LINK

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3 hours ago, Bob said:
  • None of the studies reviewed showed a benefit from wearing a mask, in either HCW or community members in households (H). See summary Tables 1 and 2 therein.
 
 

Thats quite a source trying to refute a study that said masks help...a former physics professor.  Former because he was fired for giving out phony grades.  Bravo.  Quite convincing.

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When my colleague asked for scientific evidence to back this denial, the poster directed her to an article by Denis Rancourt, entitled “Masks Don’t Work.” And, indeed, Rancourt’s paper cited eight peer-reviewed essays, all from reputable journals.  But when she actually clicked on the links provided, she found something very curious.  None of the studies cited concluded what Rancourt says they did.  For example, six of the eight studies measured the effectiveness of N95 respirators compared to surgical masks—not, as Rancourt implied, the effectiveness of wearing a mask vs. not wearing a mask.

 

Further, the quotes he provided from these articles misrepresented their findings. For example, his quote from a 2012 study in the journal Influenza and Other Respiratory Viruses read “None of the studies established a conclusive relationship between mask/respirator use and protection against influenza infection.” This implies that there is no benefit to wearing masks. In reality, however, the slash in the “mask/respirator” phrase is meant to indicate a comparison between the two types of facial coverings. In other words, the study is saying that masks and respirators are equally effective; it is not lumping them together and declaring them both ineffective. Several of the sentences before and after the one he quotes demonstrate this.

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