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31 minutes ago, Spaztecs said:

If he were Hitler, he would have had declared a National Emergency. ForcedCongress to suspend itself and give it's authority over to him.  Made future elections a Jah or Nein referendum style vote that only counted the ballots from Red Districts. With that authority, he then would have decreed a law that forces out the four Lib Justices and Roberts and appointed Ivanka as CJ of SCOTUS.

While he may end up being arrested on Federal Trespassing and Vagrancy Charges come Jan 20, he ain't Hitler.

Trump imagines himself starring in something like triumph of the will. He doesn’t actually want to be a dictator. That would require taking on responsibility, for which he has no appetite.

We’re all sitting in the dugout. Thinking we should pitch. How you gonna throw a shutout when all you do is bitch.

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2 hours ago, Spaztecs said:

If he were Hitler, he would have had declared a National Emergency. ForcedCongress to suspend itself and give it's authority over to him.  Made future elections a Jah or Nein referendum style vote that only counted the ballots from Red Districts. With that authority, he then would have decreed a law that forces out the four Lib Justices and Roberts and appointed Ivanka as CJ of SCOTUS.

While he may end up being arrested on Federal Trespassing and Vagrancy Charges come Jan 20, he ain't Hitler.

Dude at no point did I ever say he was Hitler.  My question to BSUTop25 was what would Trump have to do for voting him out to be an imperative.   Hitler was the extreme end of the scale.   Did you even read the question before responding?   

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1 hour ago, sactowndog said:

Dude at no point did I ever say he was Hitler.  My question to BSUTop25 was what would Trump have to do for voting him out to be an imperative.   Hitler was the extreme end of the scale.   Did you even read the question before responding?   

Of course. The point being, there is no comparison. Hitler was never voted into power. He was appointed Chancellor then seized power upon Hindenburgs death.

Like I said, he may scream, yell, disavow the election, attempt to declare a State of Emergency or whatever, but come Jan 21, 2021, he is Trespassing on Federal property and I know there are over 100 million Americans that would gladly give him the Bums Rush.

"We don't have evidence but, we have lot's of theories."

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10 hours ago, Spaztecs said:

Of course. The point being, there is no comparison. Hitler was never voted into power. He was appointed Chancellor then seized power upon Hindenburgs death.

Like I said, he may scream, yell, disavow the election, attempt to declare a State of Emergency or whatever, but come Jan 21, 2021, he is Trespassing on Federal property and I know there are over 100 million Americans that would gladly give him the Bums Rush.

I think it’s more interesting no one on team Republican or team Libertarian could or would say here is my line.   They could easily say your list isn’t a line for me but here is mine.  I would at least respect they had a line!!!    

The fact none of them could articulate one is pretty terrible.

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50 minutes ago, sactowndog said:

I think it’s more interesting no one on team Republican or team Libertarian could or would say here is my line.   They could easily say your list isn’t a line for me but here is mine.  I would at least respect they had a line!!!    

The fact none of them could articulate one is pretty terrible.

@sean327, @CV147, @madmartigan, and other libertarians have already drawn our line. Our line is not voting for one tyrant to replace another. JFC

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7 minutes ago, BSUTOP25 said:

@sean327, @CV147, @madmartigan, and other libertarians have already drawn our line. Our line is not voting for one tyrant to replace another. JFC

Repeating false equivalencies is hardly drawing a line.  This country is worlds away from any left wing authoritarian government.  Hell a nationalized single provider health care system is just a dream in some socialists eyes.   The Dem’s can’t even get to a single payer Medicare for all type of system.   

But keep lying to yourself if it makes you feel better.   

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4 minutes ago, sactowndog said:

Repeating false equivalencies is hardly drawing a line.  This country is worlds away from any left wing authoritarian government.  Hell a nationalized single provider health care system is just a dream in some socialists eyes.   The Dem’s can’t even get to a single payer Medicare for all type of system.   

But keep lying to yourself if it makes you feel better.   

Lol — Get out of here with your authoritarian bullshit. You want to force people to comply with your world view at gunpoint. You’re just as much of a problem as Trump and his cult following is. 

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2 minutes ago, BSUTOP25 said:

Lol — Get out of here with your authoritarian bullshit. You want to force people to comply with your world view at gunpoint. You’re just as much of a problem as Trump and his cult following is. 

Yeah right.  I want to insure the wrong guns don’t get in the hands of extremists and mentally ill.   Again you apparently have no problem with it. 

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Just now, sactowndog said:

Yeah right.  I want to insure the wrong guns don’t get in the hands of extremists and mentally ill.   Again you apparently have no problem with it. 

I have a big problem with authoritarian tyrants like you who want to imprison and murder your political opponents.

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1 minute ago, BSUTOP25 said:

I have a big problem with authoritarian tyrants like you who want to imprison and murder your political opponents.

Dude dial back on the post surgical meds.   They are sending you over the edge.

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2 minutes ago, sactowndog said:

Dude dial back on the post surgical meds.   They are sending you over the edge.

You’re an authoritarian tyrant and a crazy loon to boot.

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It’s become clear that those who scream about constitutional rights violations don’t really give a damn about constitutional rights. They only care about the issues their authoritarian leadership brainwashes them on. For example, many on the left did not support and were highly critical of the 2nd Amendment and open the economy rallies while many on the right are cheering on federal agents illegally arresting peaceful demonstrators in Oregon. Unless you’re willing to support constitutional and civil rights for everyone, even your political opponents, get out of here with your selective rights abuse rage. Period.

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16 minutes ago, BSUTOP25 said:

It’s become clear that those who scream about constitutional rights violations don’t really give a damn about constitutional rights. They only care about the issues their authoritarian leadership brainwashes them on. For example, most on the left did not support and were highly critical of the 2nd Amendment and open the economy rallies while many on the right are cheering on federal agents illegally arresting peaceful demonstrators in Oregon. Unless you’re willing to support constitutional and civil rights for everyone, even your political opponents, get out of here with your selective rights abuse rage. Period.

Do you believe there should be no standing army except during times of war?

 

 

 

 

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1 minute ago, AztecSU said:

Do you believe there should be no standing army except during times of war?

I’m fine with limited full time defense military that isn’t playing world cop and killing brown people in other countries. But that’s not what my post was about now was it?

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1 hour ago, sactowndog said:

I think it’s more interesting no one on team Republican or team Libertarian could or would say here is my line.   They could easily say your list isn’t a line for me but here is mine.  I would at least respect they had a line!!!    

The fact none of them could articulate one is pretty terrible.

My line with the Donald was passed back in the 70's.

"We don't have evidence but, we have lot's of theories."

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40 minutes ago, sactowndog said:

Yeah right.  I want to insure the wrong guns don’t get in the hands of extremists and mentally ill.   Again you apparently have no problem with it. 

While I do support measures to keep guns from the mentally unstable or terrorists, I  have yet to see a Bill, national, State or local that puts the onus on the Guv to prove a gun owner is unqualified to own a gun. A Bill that gives the accused a presumption of Innocence. Or a Bill that gives those who have had their guns taken away,  a reasonable path back to their 2nd Amendment Rights. 

 

"We don't have evidence but, we have lot's of theories."

Americans Mayor

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15 minutes ago, AztecSU said:

Do you believe there should be no standing army except during times of war?

That's a fools expedition.

"We don't have evidence but, we have lot's of theories."

Americans Mayor

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1 hour ago, Spaztecs said:

While I do support measures to keep guns from the mentally unstable or terrorists, I  have yet to see a Bill, national, State or local that puts the onus on the Guv to prove a gun owner is unqualified to own a gun. A Bill that gives the accused a presumption of Innocence. Or a Bill that gives those who have had their guns taken away,  a reasonable path back to their 2nd Amendment Rights. 

 

Sure I think that is fair.  Like I have said, the threat of a left wing authoritarian government is actually pretty low.   The threat of a right wing authoritarian government is much higher.  Some might argue we are already there.   If any group should be pro 2nd Amendment it should be left wing Democrats.   

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2 hours ago, AztecSU said:

Do you believe there should be no standing army except during times of war?

No I think you probably have to have a limited full time army.   I would feel better if that army were conscription and not professional soldiers but I get Sean’s and others concerns with readiness.   

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