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51 minutes ago, bigd said:

 Nevada State already took the Scorpions.

I bet they add athletics before too long, and could eventually be a decent addition to the WAC. They're one of the fastest growing schools in the country. It was founded in 2002 and already has more than 5,500 students with their first dorms opening this fall.

 

Nevada State College is a giant waste of money.

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4 minutes ago, ph90702 said:

Nevada State College is a giant waste of money.

I used to agree with you, particularly during the recession when budgets were so tight.

But it is good to have a such a low cost option in the state that caters to nurses and teachers. Particularly in a state with such poor education at all levels. It serves a nice niche, and I would think it would help UNLV in the long run.

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55 minutes ago, bigd said:

From the first paragraph:

I have concluded that there is no reason for eliminating either the Rebels nickname or the Hey Reb! mascotdue to any Confederate connection. In other words, neither the Rebels nickname nor Hey Reb! have a Confederate connection. The remainder of this report shall explain and expand upon those two conclusions.

 

UNLV removes Hey Reb! statue | Nevada Current

 

Obviously the 60 page report was a waste of time, because 2020 doesn't care what it thinks.

And that's the problem. When truth doesn't matter nothing matters. 

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8 hours ago, NevadaFan said:

Mud sharks?

From one misinterpretation of a term to an even worse one.

 

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3 hours ago, ph90702 said:

Nevada State College is a giant waste of money.

What’s its grad rate? Speaking of waste of money. 

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Got bored, decided to do a rough idea of what I had in mind. Obviously it would look more fox-like, and the colors would need to be corrected, but if you want to keep the Rebels name, this is how I would do it. And yes, I know about Texas Tech.

 

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3 hours ago, Rebelbacker said:

And that's the problem. When truth doesn't matter nothing matters. 

Hello....

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On 6/17/2020 at 1:59 PM, bnastyaztecs said:

UNLV ♠

Just UNLV Runnin' Rebels, no mascot.

 

6 hours ago, Aslowhiteguy said:

What is the real history?  I was always under the impression UNLV's 'Rebel' name came from the fact that southern NV was part of the confederate, Arizona territory.  

The word,'Rebel' isn't necessarily a racist term, but it does have ties to the confederacy.  

PC bullshit or not, you might as well change the name now, since it's only a matter of time until you do. 

We were just rebelling from the heathens in northern Nevada. :P

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Vegas has been a rebel since the early 1900s.. we had GAMBLING, for crying out loud.

There is no better name for UNLV.

btw, we might want to talk about the revolutionary war, as well. There might have been a few rebels involved with that.

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🎶 Ne, ne - ne, ne, ne - ne, ne, bleep in’ in’ on!  On, on, on - on, on, on - on, on, on! 🎶

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First things first. Fix the name of the "University" first. 

UNSD - University of Nevada Southern Division

NSU - Nevada Southern University

UNSE - University of Nevada Southern Extension

UNSB - University of Nevada Southern Branch

UNP - University of Nevada - Paradise (Its actual location)

As for the mascot, the Snowflake Princesses (or Desert Snowflakes) fits nicely and keeps the "rebel" tradition by defying physics as a snowflake in the desert. 

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On June 17, 2020 at 2:41 PM, AztecSU said:

LMAO I personally know who created that second image and he is Mexican. 

He's also a retard, as it's Moctezuma. And if his family is locally from San Diego he is very likely NOT a son of either. As San Diego still has NEVER been home to the Aztecs. 

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35 minutes ago, TheBigAwesome said:

He's also a retard, as it's Moctezuma. And if his family is locally from San Diego he is very likely NOT a son of either. As San Diego still has NEVER been home to the Aztecs. 

Who's the retard?

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3 minutes ago, AztecSU said:

Who's the retard?

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The moron using the bastardized Anglo variant. 

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15 minutes ago, TheBigAwesome said:

The moron using the bastardized Anglo variant. 

This is a dangerous game to play with english

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13 hours ago, 4UNLV said:

Just UNLV Runnin' Rebels, no mascot.

 

We were just rebelling from the heathens in northern Nevada. :P

If it's true your first mascot wore confederate clothing, then this 'no confederate connection' stuff doesn't pass the smell test.

 

 

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On 6/17/2020 at 9:53 AM, Rebels18 said:

You're next Aztecs

Nope.

A Native American professor at SDSU was basically forced to resign a few years ago for being found to have racially discriminated against a white student and two years ago we got us a Chicana president. So now we're gold. :)

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On 6/18/2020 at 2:49 PM, Rebelbacker said:

There isn't a need to change the name. We already went through this in 2015 and UNLV's diversity director already stated in that 60 page report there was no tie to racism. It doesn't need to be rebranded. If people actually looked at the origins of the name they'd know the real history. Instead they don't and believe what they want to.

I'm under no illusions that UNLV will not cave to the mob eventually. Our leadership stinks. Adults should just tell these children enough is enough. 

I agree. Dump the mascot, which is not only stoopid looking but is reminiscent of a Kentucky colonel. I suggest having two mascots. UNLV can use these as they're not only rebelious in a Sin City kinda way, they fit the color scheme: Cartoons DO NOT violate policy....sorry if you don't like it.....

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4 hours ago, Aslowhiteguy said:

If it's true your first mascot wore confederate clothing, then this 'no confederate connection' stuff doesn't pass the smell test.

 

 

https://www.unlv.edu/sites/default/files/assets/diversityinitiatives/reports/UNLV_Rebels_and_Mascot_Report_Nov2015.pdf

 

"The appending of Confederate symbols to the already existing Rebels identity was of course unfortunate and to some extent immature. It was also inaccurate historically, as in 1864 Nevada entered the Union as a free state, which quite obviously was the only way it could gain entry. Dr. Moehring pointed out to me that “Abraham Lincoln pushed to make Nevada a state in 1864 (even though Nevada lacked the 60,000 people required by the Northwest Ordinance of 1787) just to get one more state to pass the 13th Amendment abolishing slavery. Nevada was the state that got Lincoln the one additional vote he needed to do it.” Even if one ignores the reality that the historiography of slavery and the Civil War in the 1950s, at least in terms of popular understandings, was closer to the mythical and reconciliatory writings of Thomas Dixon, Jr. than to the later work of modern-era scholars such as Eric Foner, it nonetheless made little sense to dress the nascent Nevada Southern institution in the garb of the Confederacy except tofrom an explicitly southern position on the mapstick a metaphorical finger in the eye of the Nevada’s northern concentration of political power. "

 

The confederate flag symbolized something much different to NSU, compared to that of the south. It was in bad taste, which is why it was removed in the 70s.

The symbolism it played was after the fact as well. Rebels was designed as a Rebellion to UNR and the powers they had over funding and expansion.

 

Here are some early 60's articles from both sides:

"We should all be thinking about the immediate problem which exists between the Reno Campus and the Nevada Southern Campus. NSU is obviously getting the short end of the deal concerning financial assistance which is so badly needed. Our campus is in dire need of an adequate book store, cafeteria, anddormitories, etc. We must face the fact that if we wait for the minds in Reno to make the decisions and to allocate the money which is needed to handle NSU, we will all be grandparents. This same type of partiality exists not only in relation to the University, but also in allocation of State money for roads, buildings, etc., which favor the Reno area giving Reno the gravy and Las Vegas the crumbs. Unquestionably the Southern Nevada and Reno areas will eventually be compared to Los Angeles and San Francisco. Clark County is going to outstrip Washoe County in the coming years.The financial benefits from the university to the community cannot be measured. Many towns in the country have grown and prospered, over a period of years, because of their university alone. The university provides a source of revenue for the localmerchants. It also provides for a rise in population which results in an overall betterment of the community. A prosperous and growing university can do nothing but good for the community. NSU seems to be having a difficult time moving ahead as fast as it should."

 

"Evident of thisdetermination is the moniker they have tacked on the southern regional division“Nevada Southern University”although “NSU” is only considered on a par with any of the University’s seven colleges. The latest move toward equality took the form of a 50-50 split on book appropriations. The Reno campus got $125,000 and old “NSU” took in a like amount. If this action is any indication of things to come, then the main campus will be placed on a two-way appropriation dole with its southern fledgling in the future. This means two things: (1) Nevada Southern, even with a 50-50 split, will not be equal to the Reno campus in the foreseeable future, and (2) the University of Nevada will fall behind in its effort to raise itself to a competitive position with other universities. The University of Nevada is on the move in academic circles. It hasPh.D. programs, a library that is on the way up, improved faculty and academic standards, and some branches. It must be remembered that Nevada Southern is a brancha southern regional divisionand nothing more. If Las Vegans continue their pressure for equality, they will succeed only in weakening the University as a whole. The most sensible action on their part would be to finance expansion themselves. The main campus, serving anentire state in all levels of post-secondary education, must not be weakened by the pressure of sectional interests.

 

 

The 1982 mascot committee was literally created to find a non-offensive, non-Confederate looking mascot. Those were the main factors in creating the new mascot.

Hey Reb was created and approved by many different leaders and student groups who agreed the committee found a new mascot within its mission purpose.

 

Hey Reb is a mountain man, pathfinder, discoverer, explorer. Which goes along in theme with the Las Vegas area (Basically founded by mountain men) and the idea of Nevada Southern's Rebel attitude of becoming it's own.

 

 

At this point, we're talking about changing a mascot, and possibly the Rebels name simply because some people think he is something he isn't. Potentially millions of dollars to make a few people, who don't care about getting informed, feel better? At what point is it a reach?

 

What's next Mountain men are racists? Possibly killed Indians in war. Fought for Union against Confederates, but also Mexico?

 

There will never be a line in the sand, but at some point people have to check their feelings and educate themselves.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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