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8 minutes ago, smltwnrckr said:

It has been raised as an issue, at least in circles I run in. But not with any serious sort of way. The Latinx activists I see tend to protest about the existence of California in general - that this is all stolen land and belongs to Mexico, which kind of makes a debate about representation a non-starter for anyone serious.

Well iirc the legality of CA's annexation is debatable. But I think the real issue for folks is when they compare how Louisiana and French culture/language was handled vs CA and Spanish culture/language

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12 minutes ago, smltwnrckr said:

It has been raised as an issue, at least in circles I run in. But not with any serious sort of way. The Latinx activists I see tend to protest about the existence of California in general - that this is all stolen land and belongs to Mexico, which kind of makes a debate about representation a non-starter for anyone serious.

how do all the latinx activists who aren't Mexican-American feel about that? 

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15 minutes ago, happycamper said:

 

how do all the latinx activists who aren't Mexican-American feel about that? 

Oh man, you wanna talk about rabbit holes...

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1 hour ago, pokerider said:

Forget about the battle of New Orleans and War of 1812, who needs that in their history anyway.  
He was a staunch Democrat.  Democrats also created the KKK and pretty much dominated in the south for about a 100 years after the civil war.   The Democratic party should be disbanded as racist murderers!  

It doesn't matter how many battles you have won. Besides, the Battle of Narlins' occurred after the Peace Treaty was signed. His actions in violating SCOTUS rulings in regards to Treaties with the Natives led not only to the Trail of Tears but was the mechanism by which the genocide and seizure of native Lands was based. 

He's a POS in my book and Trump's admiration of him cemented that fact 

The Dem party that existed prior to LBJ forcing Civil Rights down it's throat, I agree with you on. Truth of the matter is, after that the DixieCrats flocked to Wallace in 68 and 72. Then jumped on the Ronnie RayGuns bandwagon in 1980. The R party has been home to Racism ever since.

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57 minutes ago, Spaztecs said:

It doesn't matter how many battles you have won. Besides, the Battle of Narlins' occurred after the Peace Treaty was signed. His actions in violating SCOTUS rulings in regards to Treaties with the Natives led not only to the Trail of Tears but was the mechanism by which the genocide and seizure of native Lands was based. 

He's a POS in my book and Trump's admiration of him cemented that fact 

The Dem party that existed prior to LBJ forcing Civil Rights down it's throat, I agree with you on. Truth of the matter is, after that the DixieCrats flocked to Wallace in 68 and 72. Then jumped on the Ronnie RayGuns bandwagon in 1980. The R party has been home to Racism ever since.

In Colorado everyone knows that Boulder is about the most liberal city there, and Aurora has the most blacks, they are both the most racist towns in the state.  
And its well documented how all these large democratic run cities have the most racism as well.  The facts show that you put a large number of blacks with a large number of liberals and you have a dysfunctional, chaotic and class-based mindset where racism seems to flourish. 

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6 minutes ago, pokerider said:

  The facts show that you put a large number of blacks Race/Religon A with a large number of liberals  non-Race/Religion A and you have a dysfunctional, chaotic and class-based mindset where racism seems to flourish. 

Put that scenario anywhere in America and we see what happens.  Perhaps you haven't been watching the news with all these moronic sherrif's, mayors, and police showing their ass, or how many dummies are screaming civil/race war that aren't coming from the Boulder's of the world.  

My experience the biggest racist shitholes include nearly the entire state of Indiana, south Ohio, Orange County, CA, north Florida (minus the panhandle), and eastern Oregon.  You had better look like the rest of em.  :D

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Enough with this Latinx bullshit! It’s stupid, no one in their right mind supports it’s use, and we make fun of the morons who use it. 

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8 minutes ago, sean327 said:

Enough with this Latinx bullshit! It’s stupid, no one in their right mind supports it’s use, and we make fun of the morons who use it. 

I'm pretty sure that the people smltwn was talking about were the kind of people who use it, hence his use of it. Not to put words in his mouth or anything 

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It's finally and formally tossed out. Mississippi flag is legacy done.

IMO, Texas was unfortunately dragged into it all wayy back then protecting its cotton based economy at that lowly time. Texas, as 9-year Independent Republic always had its financial struggles prior to Joint Congress admission to the United States.  Joining the CSA was an awful thing Texas did, with reluctance.  The previous President of the Republic, Sam Houston, was a huge holdout for doing so.

There are only Five Flags of Texas.  Not Six.

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Good lord, dude...

 

Wrong about Texas flags.

 

Spain

France

Mexico

Republic of Texas

CSA

USA

 

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Multitasking with phone bud in my ear with normal DFW types catching up and talking bidness. 

Anywho, this topic should be closed pls. 

It's too contentious.

For TCU types.

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4 hours ago, AztecSU said:

You mentioned the CA flag and thinking about it I am sorta shocked it hasn't been raised as an issue with Latinos/Latinx peoples. If they did change it I wouldnt give a damn though.

Why would Latinos be offended by a bear? 

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58 minutes ago, Coog kev said:

Multitasking with phone bud in my ear with normal DFW types catching up and talking bidness. 

Anywho, this topic should be closed pls. 

It's too contentious.

For TCU types.

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Not my fault you are bad at Texas History AND math.

 

 

Cougar High, hail to thee...

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46 minutes ago, soupslam1 said:

Why would Latinos be offended by a bear? 

It symbolizes the bear flag revolt, where emigrant settlers rose up and seized control of California from Mexico, which couldn’t do much about it because they had their hands full slugging it out with the USA.

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2 hours ago, happycamper said:

I'm pretty sure that the people smltwn was talking about were the kind of people who use it, hence his use of it. Not to put words in his mouth or anything 

Correct. 

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54 minutes ago, thelawlorfaithful said:

It symbolizes the bear flag revolt, where emigrant settlers rose up and seized control of California from Mexico, which couldn’t do much about it because they had their hands full slugging it out with the USA.

Fun fact... it also depicts a California brown bear, which is now extinct. 

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6 minutes ago, smltwnrckr said:

Fun fact... it also depicts a California brown bear, which is now extinct. 

Why a bear? Were they like, well, have to have something on the standard to march behind?

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1 hour ago, thelawlorfaithful said:

It symbolizes the bear flag revolt, where emigrant settlers rose up and seized control of California from Mexico, which couldn’t do much about it because they had their hands full slugging it out with the USA.

Also it was followed by long process that involved marginalization of what always previously an aristocracy.

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12 minutes ago, thelawlorfaithful said:

Why a bear? Were they like, well, have to have something on the standard to march behind?

My dad told me "back in the old days the ranchers had all kinds of cattle and the most valuable thing on them was the leather. It was too hot/remote to take the meat. So ranchers would just slaughter and skin the cattle and leave most of the meat out to rot, or as it turns out, be eaten by bears. This is a pretty good way to increase the population of bears, so California had a LOT of bears". 

My dad's pretty smart and knows a lot of stuff and is also apt to repeat apocryphal stories and is also apt to just make shit up for fun. Usually the stuff he makes up is more fantastical though

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