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13 hours ago, Akkula said:

Why does the clown in chief keep touting unproven treatments?  

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/06/trump-drug-coronavirus-hydroxychloroquine-170543

A randomized study was just released from a very respected doctor in China, and the 1,000 patients that were admitted to the hospital in bad condition with many having pre-existing conditions and many very old, they were given HydroCL and Z Pack and 993 recovered, only 7 died. That’s a 0.7% death rate for the very worst of the sick. That’s fvcking amazing. Even cheese ball Dr. Oz is clamoring about it and saying that treatment should no longer be referred to as anecdotal. It’s proven. 

Dr. Wallace at Cedar Sinai in LA is the national expert on Lupus and other autoimmune conditions. He has nearly 2,000 patients on HydroCL 365 days a year. In his 40 years of practice, a mild stomach upset and a rash were the worst side effects. At the doses taken for C19, he stated the risk is nil, nothing. He said it’s a joke that the media and politicians are making it out to be the boogie man. 
 

Most of the resistance is Trump liking it and Dems rebelling, and the other is drug companies. There’s no money to be made with these, they’re just a few bucks. The drug companies want a new sexy drug to rule the market so they can make gazillions.

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19 minutes ago, Nevada Convert said:

A randomized study was just released from a very respected doctor in China, and the 1,000 patients that were admitted to the hospital in bad condition with many having pre-existing conditions and many very old, they were given HydroCL and Z Pack and 993 recovered, only 7 died. That’s a 0.7% death rate for the very worst of the sick. That’s fvcking amazing. Even cheese ball Dr. Oz is clamoring about it and saying that treatment should no longer be referred to as anecdotal. It’s proven. 
 

Unless you are referring to a different study - and wouldnt mind sharing it - It was 62 patients, and it has not been peer-reviewed.  

 

 

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.03.22.20040758v2

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18 minutes ago, Nevada Convert said:

A randomized study was just released from a very respected doctor in China, and the 1,000 patients that were admitted to the hospital in bad condition with many having pre-existing conditions and many very old, they were given HydroCL and Z Pack and 993 recovered, only 7 died. That’s a 0.7% death rate for the very worst of the sick. That’s fvcking amazing. Even cheese ball Dr. Oz is clamoring about it and saying that treatment should no longer be referred to as anecdotal. It’s proven. 

Dr. Wallace at Cedar Sinai in LA is the national expert on Lupus and other autoimmune conditions. He has nearly 2,000 patients on HydroCL 365 days a year. In his 40 years of practice, a mild stomach upset and a rash were the worst side effects. At the doses taken for C19, he stated the risk is nil, nothing. He said it’s a joke that the media and politicians are making it out to be the boogie man. 
 

Most of the resistance is Trump liking it and Dems rebelling, and the other is drug companies. There’s no money to be made with these, they’re just a few bucks. The drug companies want a new sexy drug to rule the market so they can make gazillions.

So based off that study you are good with the president going on national TV in America and pitching this to his low IQ base?   These people by and large probably don’t believe the FDA should exist because guberment is bad and will tend to believe anything Nacho says.   

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Have they ever tested how much political ideology impacts the placebo effect?

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2 minutes ago, edluvar said:

So based off that study you are good with the president going on national TV in America and pitching this to his low IQ base?   These people by and large probably don’t believe the FDA should exist because guberment is bad and will tend to believe anything Nacho says.   

It doesn't really matter what Trump's low IQ base think about the drug.  They can't get it without a doctor.

I think it is very odd how this drug has become some sort of referendum on Trump.

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1 minute ago, BYUcougfan said:

It doesn't really matter what Trump's low IQ base think about the drug.  They can't get it without a doctor.

I think it is very odd how this drug has become some sort of referendum on Trump.

Why do you think that's odd? This entire thing has become a referendum on trump. Much to his encouragement Nd glee.

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3 minutes ago, BYUcougfan said:

It doesn't really matter what Trump's low IQ base think about the drug.  They can't get it without a doctor.

I think it is very odd how this drug has become some sort of referendum on Trump.

He needs to not feel the need to act like a medical expert and let his team do their jobs.   

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1 minute ago, smltwnrckr said:

Why do you think that's odd? This entire thing has become a referendum on trump. Much to his encouragement Nd glee.

He is the president, so the response is naturally a referendum.  Focusing in on this one drug as if Trump sinks or swims based on its efficacy is odd.

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1 minute ago, edluvar said:

He needs to not feel the need to act like a medical expert and let his team do their jobs.   

Is he not letting them do their jobs?  Trump is Trumping.....whatever.  The anti Trumpites are running around screaming hair on fire over his comments on this drug.

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8 minutes ago, BYUcougfan said:

It doesn't really matter what Trump's low IQ base think about the drug.  They can't get it without a doctor.

I think it is very odd how this drug has become some sort of referendum on Trump.

Trump Derangement Syndrome, it's real.

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I like how trump can just spout something off the top of his head, and if he winds up being right, trumpers will all see it as proof of his genius, but if he’s wrong, they’ll forget it ever happened.

If this drug ends up working, fantastic. But it won’t be because trump said it would. It will be because medical professionals who actually know what they’re doing will have rigorously tested it and proven it effective. Trump needs to shut his pie hole until then. 

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1 minute ago, BYUcougfan said:

Is he not letting them do their jobs?  Trump is Trumping.....whatever.  The anti Trumpites are running around screaming hair on fire over his comments on this drug.

He has proven repeatedly thought this process the gravity of the situation won’t stop him from talking out of his @$$.  Anything medical should come from experts.  Or are you good with him opining about miracle cures during his “briefings” 

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2 minutes ago, SJSUMFA2013 said:

I like how trump can just spout something off the top of his head, and if he winds up being right, trumpers will all see it as proof of his genius, but if he’s wrong, they’ll forget it ever happened.

If this drug ends up working, fantastic. But it won’t be because trump said it would. It will be because medical professionals who actually know what they’re doing will have rigorously tested it and proven it effective. Trump needs to shut his pie hole until then. 

It's called a cult.

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1 minute ago, edluvar said:

He has proven repeatedly thought this process the gravity of the situation won’t stop him from talking out of his @$$.  Anything medical should come from experts.  Or are you good with him opining about miracle cures during his “briefings” 

His bsing is also causing the drug to be in short supply for people that actually need it. The man loves nothing more than the sound of his own voice.

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4 minutes ago, retrofade said:

It's called a cult.

These are the same people who owe $ to more than one MLM.

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46 minutes ago, Nevada Convert said:

A randomized study was just released from a very respected doctor in China, and the 1,000 patients that were admitted to the hospital in bad condition with many having pre-existing conditions and many very old, they were given HydroCL and Z Pack and 993 recovered, only 7 died. That’s a 0.7% death rate for the very worst of the sick. That’s fvcking amazing. Even cheese ball Dr. Oz is clamoring about it and saying that treatment should no longer be referred to as anecdotal. It’s proven. 

Dr. Wallace at Cedar Sinai in LA is the national expert on Lupus and other autoimmune conditions. He has nearly 2,000 patients on HydroCL 365 days a year. In his 40 years of practice, a mild stomach upset and a rash were the worst side effects. At the doses taken for C19, he stated the risk is nil, nothing. He said it’s a joke that the media and politicians are making it out to be the boogie man. 
 

Most of the resistance is Trump liking it and Dems rebelling, and the other is drug companies. There’s no money to be made with these, they’re just a few bucks. The drug companies want a new sexy drug to rule the market so they can make gazillions.

Convert if it works in a proven study then great.  Last I checked no doctor was doing their best to not help their patients.   Meanwhile, why don't you expound on your medical training and experience with medical studies including your understanding of the potential side effects of said treatment.

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I'm super confused on how potential drug therapy which needs more clinical evidence became bipartisan. There are too many things in this world revolving around politics. Leave our therapeutics alone!

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