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Joe Biden rape allegation.

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42 minutes ago, thelawlorfaithful said:

Dear democrats, you can just pick somebody useful at the convention. We did it for a hundred plus years, worked out pretty good. Can we try that?

IMO, a great outcome would be for Sherrod Brown to be drafted to run against Mr. Grumpy. The country would get an intelligent, informed and humane president while ridding itself of one who has been anything but.

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11 minutes ago, SleepingGiantFan said:

Sexual assault is not OK. However, in the Era of Trump, can it really be said that what the woman accuses Biden of should preclude him from being president?

Yes.  Trump commited felony assault.  He also walked in on underage girls changing.  He should have never been elected.  Nor should Joe should this turn into something suggesting preponderance of evidence.

Vermin Supreme write in.  Do it.

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13 minutes ago, SleepingGiantFan said:

Sexual assault is not OK. However, in the Era of Trump, can it really be said that what the woman accuses Biden of should preclude him from being president?

There were a lot of people making that very argument on here a while back with Kavanaugh.

Also, a lot of Democratic Presidential candidates called for Kavanaugh to be impeached, based on allegations.

 

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1 hour ago, AndroidAggie said:

several of you seem to believe i equivocate an accusation with a foregone conclusion

this is incorrect.

you also seem to mistake _my conclusion_ that such a person would be ineligible as a call for some legal framework to enforce it legally.

this is also incorrect.

to have the state act requires evidence and a trial.  if there is evidence and a trial, then go for it.  without it, i'm left to my own devices to draw whatever conclusion i think its fair.  the truth is that establishing someone's credibility as an accuser or as the accused requires a good deal of thought, evaluation of available evidence, and prudent judgment.  i couldn't, nor should you expect me to, elucidate on every possible scenario which would cause someone to be deemed ineligible for a certain position.  no one made a peep about neil gorsuch.  he was appointed without any issues and rightfully so; his personal conduct was untouchable.

i don't see liberal boogeywomen and boogeymen crafting a conspiracy to bring a believable set of accusations against God-fearing right wing men just to effectuate policy.  if you do; then you do you.

IMHO preponderance of evidence should be the threshold we hold those up for office or appointments.  For similar reasons as that is the threshold of Tittle IV.  Was there a preponderance of evidence to say Kavanaugh was guilty of what he was being accused?  No, not in my estimation.  We will see about sniffy Joe.

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9 minutes ago, SleepingGiantFan said:

IMO, a great outcome would be for Sherrod Brown to be drafted to run against Mr. Grumpy. The country would get an intelligent, informed and humane president while ridding itself of one who has been anything but.

Has Brown ever run for President?

Right now I'd think Bernie Sanders deserves it the most (1B for Democrats).

And.... he's still running for President.

 

I'm also sort of surprised that this isn't being covered at all by the National media.  It should be a big story.

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2 minutes ago, #1Stunner said:

There were a lot of people making that very argument on here a while back with Kavanaugh.

Also, a lot of Democratic Presidential candidates called for Kavanaugh to be impeached, based on allegations.

 

Careful, pointing out such hypocrisy will cause @NVGiant to get angry enough to vote against you in the Derby!

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1 hour ago, AndroidAggie said:

for the record, i never thought kavanaugh needed to be jailed over the allegations, just that perhaps he shouldn't be a supreme court judge if there was significance to the accusation. moral scrutiny for a supreme court judge: high; moral scrutiny to convict a guy: need evidence.

So Joe is unqualified, got it.

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2 minutes ago, halfmanhalfbronco said:

Careful, pointing out such hypocrisy will cause @NVGiant to get angry enough to vote against you in the Derby!

I already won the Troll Derby before.

Mug promised the victor great spoils of vanilla ice cream, and then I got nothing...

Never again!  The Derby is an insult to the craft.

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2 minutes ago, halfmanhalfbronco said:

IMHO preponderance of evidence should be the threshold we hold those up for office or appointments.  For similar reasons as that is the threshold of Tittle IV.  Was there a preponderance of evidence to say Kavanaugh was guilty of what he was being accused?  No, not in my estimation.  We will see about sniffy Joe.

i mostly agree.  quantity of evidence can be difficult to come by but may not have any bearing on whether or not it happened.  it only takes one time.

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1 minute ago, modestobulldog said:

So Joe is unqualified, got it.

if the investigation of the accusation is done thoroughly and fairly and found to have weight then yes.

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2 minutes ago, AndroidAggie said:

i mostly agree.  quantity of evidence can be difficult to come by but may not have any bearing on whether or not it happened.  it only takes one time.

Agreed, that is why preponderance is the title IV standard.  If it is 1% more likely they did it then did not do it.  Then done  Fineto.  Bye.  Enjoy the student loans/ only being a circuit judge.  Lowering the standard less than that is dangerous.  Every candidate for all time would have somebody come out against them for an opposition paycheck or promise of a book deal.

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5 minutes ago, AndroidAggie said:

if the investigation of the accusation is done thoroughly and fairly and found to have weight then yes.

How much weight?  The same as Kavanaugh?  IMO we are just about there already.

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4 minutes ago, halfmanhalfbronco said:

How much weight?  The same as Kavanaugh?  IMO we are just about there already.

not sure, yet.  i'd have to do more reading.

but mostly, yes.  the kavanaugh hearings and investigations seem a good starting point.

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6 hours ago, AndroidAggie said:

dang man.  may vote write-in in october.

My penis is running. He's running as "the stimulus package". A solid option. 

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Just now, madmartigan said:

My penis is running. He's running as "the stimulus package". A solid option. 

i'm sold.

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25 minutes ago, #1Stunner said:

There were a lot of people making that very argument on here a while back with Kavanaugh.

Also, a lot of Democratic Presidential candidates called for Kavanaugh to be impeached, based on allegations.

 

And your point is?

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4 minutes ago, madmartigan said:

My penis is running. He's running as "the stimulus package". A solid option. 

You Son of a Bitch, I'm In - Meming Wiki

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6 minutes ago, AndroidAggie said:

not sure, yet.  i'd have to do more reading.

but mostly, yes.  the kavanaugh hearings and investigations seem a good starting point.

May as well just remove voting from the criteria for succession to office.  

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5 minutes ago, halfmanhalfbronco said:

May as well just remove voting from the criteria for succession to office.  

God forbid we have a candidate without a history of sexual misconduct.

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25 minutes ago, #1Stunner said:

Has Brown ever run for President?

 

I'm also sort of surprised that this isn't being covered at all by the National media.  It should be a big story.

Brown was urged to run by many but decided against it in late 2018 or early 2019. His public explanation was that he opposed certain positions he thought would end up being a mandatory part of the Dem policy position, precipally single payer healthcare which it's now apparent will not be a Dem policy. Although Brown denied, it's also speculated he declined to run because he's a good friend of Biden and didn't want to hamper Uncle Joe's expected run.

On your last point, to repeat, this is The Era of Trump and as such, it would be very difficult for the Republicans to try to make hay out of the accusation.

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