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18 hours ago, soupslam1 said:

1) You just like Bush because he took it in the ass from the media and Democrats and would never fought back. 2) Trump fights back and it really pisses off Democrats and the media. 

1) That could be.

2) And in your view, that's what being the Leader of the Free World is all about, right?

 

BTW, you're welcome.

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2 minutes ago, SleepingGiantFan said:

1) That could be.

2) And in your view, that's what being the Leader of the Free World is all about, right?

 

BTW, you're welcome.

To be fair to Soupslam1, Obama had an 8 year suck off session instead of the reaming that Bush got.

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14 hours ago, sactowndog said:

Why you blaming the Dems?  It’s not exactly like the Repubs have done a damm thing about the deficit.   If Donald had used the prosperous times he was handed to reign the deficit in we might have some cash for a crises.  

Actually, they have. Contrary to decades of their party's history, 21st century Republicans have done a great job of helping the Democrats increase it.

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11 minutes ago, SleepingGiantFan said:

Actually, they have. Contrary to decades of their party's history, 21st century Republicans have done a great job of helping the Democrats increase it.

The thinking that "republicans are for low deficits & debt" has been a fallacy since the 1920's 

What one project was a massive defense spending project initiated post WWII when US tax rates were as high as 91%...........the Interstate Freeway System by GOP president Eisenhower 

Basically post Depression & WWII the country changed from rural agrarian based to full industrial based & more urban, and the spendthrift policies that the USA might have strived for from 1789 to 1930 were long gone and the world's tech also changed creating massive infrastructure needs .......the days of dirt wagon roads was over 

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17 minutes ago, SleepingGiantFan said:

Actually, they have. Contrary to decades of their party's history, 21st century Republicans have done a great job of helping the Democrats increase it.

Here is something fun to think about. When was the last time the Party of Fiscal Responsibility left the White House with a smaller deficit by percentage of GDP in its last year than in their first year? Nixon in 1974. Conversely, when was the last time a Democrat left the White House with a larger deficit by percentage of GDP in their last year than in their first year? LBJ in 1968.

Admittedly, there is more context to that. And ultimately Congress is in charge of the purse strings. But as has been the case for generations, administrations tend to set the agenda. So it's not a meaningless statistic.  

Source: https://www.thebalance.com/us-deficit-by-year-3306306.

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5 minutes ago, NVGiant said:

Here is something fun to think about. When was the last time the Party of Fiscal Responsibility left the White House with a smaller deficit by percentage of GDP in its last year than in their first year? Nixon in 1974. Conversely, when was the last time a Democrat left the White House with a larger deficit by percentage of GDP in their last year than in their first year? LBJ in 1968.

Admittedly, there is more context to that. And ultimately Congress is in charge of the purse strings. But as has been the case for generations, administrations tend to set the agenda. So it's not a meaningless statistic.  

Source: https://www.thebalance.com/us-deficit-by-year-3306306.

Well put.

However, UNLV2001's citing of Ike's building of the interstate highway system as an example of federal waste is way off base. That was money well spent.

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4 minutes ago, UNLV2001 said:

The stupid from Devin Nunes is neverending !!!! 

 

Nunes is clearly the dumbest mofo in Congress and that's hard to be.

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3 minutes ago, SleepingGiantFan said:

Well put.

However, UNLV2001's citing of Ike's building of the interstate highway system as an example of federal waste is way off base. That was money well spent.

Agreed.

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2 hours ago, pokerider said:

expect Trump didn't call the virus a hoax, he said Dems were using it as their new Russia hoax.  Now don't forget how NY Health official in early Feb. out telling people it was safe to congregate and go to restaurants,  and Nancy Pelosi in San Fran telling people there the same thing.  Trump shut down flights from China very beg. of Feb. and set for anyone who had been in China last 14 days to be screened.   Why wasn't the US, including the media and everyone else looking at this more seriously before the middle of Feburary?  Oh, the impeachment was taking all the news, remember?  Yeah. 

So what exactly was the hoax? the democrats criticism of the administrations actions or lack there of? Well that appears to be correct even from the administration who is now trying to take it seriously but at the time of his "hoax statement" he wasn't. So it appears the democrats response was no hoax. 

 

(also completely ignoring the fact that the usage of hoax in this context makes no sense) 

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19 hours ago, soupslam1 said:

You just like Bush because he took it in the ass from the media and Democrats and would never fought back. Trump fights back and it really pisses off Democrats and the media. 

that is true stephen colbert GIF by Obama

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14 minutes ago, SleepingGiantFan said:

Well put.

However, UNLV2001's citing of Ike's building of the interstate highway system as an example of federal waste is way off base. That was money well spent.

Highway system was absolutely $$ well spent - might be the best defense budget project that aided everyday people ever done 

My point was that a GOP president managed to pull that off with a top tax rate of 91% - Doing that since 1981 would literally be impossible 

Now for defense spending waste, there's lots of other things that ended up as dead ends or just doing it to spend money - But these projects all include JOBS, so is there really any waste in government spending?!?!

If not for government spending there would be no airline / aircraft industry in the US......every noted aeronautics company was helped along by US government pumping $$ into them - Boeing, McDonnell-Douglas, et al ........in fact one could say that without government spending we wouldn't have close to the tech in our lives that we have from cell phones to internet to computers to microwave ovens.

Bigger point is the the world change drastically in the 20th century and the 18th & 19th century vision of US government was out the door unless the US was going to be an isolated backwater - Two world wars, a major depression, the cold war the surge in tech and the changes in how we get around all changed the way the USA was governed 

 

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9 minutes ago, FresnoFacts said:

Trump is unusually quiet on Twitter today. It is 4:30pm in Washington. I only see 2 tweets on his account today. There are not many days when he is that quiet on Twitter.

That’s not a good sign. 

thelawlorfaithful, on 31 Dec 2012 - 04:01 AM, said:One of the rules I live by: never underestimate a man in a dandy looking sweater

 

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4 hours ago, bornontheblue said:

Don’t be a fool! You know what the country and politicians were fixated on when our national effort should have been  on preparing for this outbreak! 

Yes, we were so "fixated" on the potential problem we eliminated the Pandemic Response Team 3 years ago.

But yes, I'm sure you're right, without the impeachment we'd be perfectly prepared for this.

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10 minutes ago, renoskier said:

Yes, we were so "fixated" on the potential problem we eliminated the Pandemic Response Team 3 years ago.

But yes, I'm sure you're right, without the impeachment we'd be perfectly prepared for this.

wrong trump GIF

The governments response plan was not eliminated by Trump. A Key person left the Pandemic response team. Instead of filling the open position the Trump administration reorganized how the Dept of homeland security would respond to a crises. The government , and businesses reorganize like this all the time with their staff. Quit making it sound like trump eliminated the plan to deal with a Pandemic. Obama did the same thing in 2009 when he eliminated the White House Health and Security office which specialized in dealing with international health problems. Try again. 

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47 minutes ago, renoskier said:

Yes, we were so "fixated" on the potential problem we eliminated the Pandemic Response Team 3 years ago.

But yes, I'm sure you're right, without the impeachment we'd be perfectly prepared for this.

I would never blame the somewhat late start on Covid-19 solely to the impeachment process, but there is no way Covid-19 was going to knock impeachment off the front pages in January and the front pages have a huge impact on what our politicians focus on.  Impeachment was a waste of time, and in this case, definitely kept the national focus off of what was happening in China.  Tom Cotton tried to get everyone's attention in mid January.

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5 hours ago, bornontheblue said:

Don’t be a fool! You know what the country and politicians were fixated on when our national effort should have been  on preparing for this outbreak! 

Yep, it was such a distraction for Trump...

Trump Rallies

  • January 9th
  • January 14th
  • January 28th
  • January 30th
  • February 10th
  • February 19th
  • February 20th
  • February 21st
  • February 28th

Trump Golf Trips

  • January 18th
  • January 19th
  • February 1st
  • February 15th
  • March 7th
  • March 8th

But sure, impeachment was distracting him from doing anything about this. I'm sure that he was also downplaying the threat of COVID-19 at the same time because of impeachment as well.

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