Sam Merrill is officially an MWC Basketball god

[Pelado]

6 hours ago, ole blu dude said:

One of the great things about Sam is he is the second leading assist guy in school history, which makes him a great team player instead of just a shooter.

Not to turn everything about Sam into a comparison with Jimmer, but here's another comparison between Sam and Jimmer.  Jimmer's career assists totaled 515.  Sam is currently at 477.  Senior years - Jimmer, 160; Sam 125 so far.

Of course, Jimmer is not as high up on his school's career assist list as Sam is.  My quick google search didn't result in the career list, but I know of at least two who are higher.

[ole blu dude]

31 minutes ago, Pelado said:

Not to turn everything about Sam into a comparison with Jimmer, but here's another comparison between Sam and Jimmer.  Jimmer's career assists totaled 515.  Sam is currently at 477.  Senior years - Jimmer, 160; Sam 125 so far.

Of course, Jimmer is not as high up on his school's career assist list as Sam is.  My quick google search didn't result in the career list, but I know of at least two who are higher.

I was not making a comparison to your Jimmer. I do not watch BYU basketball other than when they play the aggies so my knowledge is limited in that area.

[Pelado]

57 minutes ago, ole blu dude said:

I was not making a comparison to your Jimmer. I do not watch BYU basketball other than when they play the aggies so my knowledge is limited in that area.

I know you weren't.  Similarly, I don't usually watch the Aggies outside of their games against BYU.  Since Sam hadn't played particularly well against BYU, I hadn't been all that impressed with him.  I did watch the semifinals and finals of the MW tournament, though, and he was terrific there.

[hickaggie]

26 minutes ago, ole blu dude said:

I was not making a comparison to your Jimmer. I do not watch BYU basketball other than when they play the aggies so my knowledge is limited in that

26 minutes ago, ole blu dude said:

I was not making a comparison to your Jimmer. I do not watch BYU basketball other than when they play the aggies so my knowledge is limited in that area.

I think I can recall watching Jimmer twice.  One was the Delta Center  or whatever it was called then game when he was just coming into his own and I thought he looked promising.  The next game was at the Spectrum when Pooh Williams and the crowd absolutely shut him down and Jared Quayle took over the game late and made him look absolutely silly on defense.

Jaycee Carroll was a much better shooter and able to get his shot off in less space.  He just was never allowed to play point and USU shot probably 1/3 less shots a game on average in Stew's system. As he has shown in Europe when asked to do so he is a far better and more creative one on one too one on one.   Remember he was a 6'2 guard who shot well over .545 overall FG, percentage his senior year and .495 from 3 pt range.  His 2 point percentage was about .600.  That's unheard of from a volume scoring shooting guard.  And that was on won of Stew's worst team's from those years.   Nobody  respected anyone outside of Jaycee and he was hounded all game long, getting his jersey pulled through screens exc, and being double teamed constantly.   If you watch his tape you won't find much space on any of those shots, inside the arc or out or man.  He is the singular best college shooter I have seen and its backed up by the NCAA https://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men/article/2018-10-25/best-3-point-shooting-college-basketball-players-century. 

Jaycee hit a ton of big shots at USU and Real Madrid and sealed at least one of Real Madrid's Euroleague titles with a last second shot. However, I still want the ball in Sam's hands down the stretch over anyone I have watched play college basketball.

 

 

 

[Pelado]

1 hour ago, hickaggie said:

 

49.5% from 3 for a volume shooter is crazy good.  The top 3-point percentage shooters this season are:

Stefan Gonzalez - UC Davis - 83-174 - 47.7%

Jake Toolson - BYU - 85-181 - 47.0%

Dru Kuxhausen - McNeese - 125-267 - 46.8%

Saddiq Bey - Villanova - 79-175 - 45.1%

Nate Kennell - Bradley - 88-197 - 44.7%

https://www.ncaa.com/stats/basketball-men/d1/current/individual/143

The records for 3-point percentage over a season:

Minimum 50 made:  63.4% - Glenn Tropf, Holy Cross, 1988 (52 of 82)

Minimum 100 made:  57.3% - Steve Kerr, Arizona, 1988 (114 of 199)

http://www.ncaa.org/championships/statistics/2019-20-ncaa-mens-basketball-records

There are only four guards in the top 50 of field goal percentage this season, none of which are in the top 50 for 3-point percentage:

Kevin McKay - Central Michigan - 146-251 - 58.2%

Chad Lott - South Alabama - 177-317 - 55.8%

Gerard Andrus - Prairie View - 200-359 - 55.7%

Tyler Stevenson - Southern Miss - 161-289 - 55.7%

https://www.ncaa.com/stats/basketball-men/d1/current/individual/141

[renoskier]

2 hours ago, Pelado said:

49.5% from 3 for a volume shooter is crazy good.  The top 3-point percentage shooters this season are:

Stefan Gonzalez - UC Davis - 83-174 - 47.7%

Jake Toolson - BYU - 85-181 - 47.0%

Dru Kuxhausen - McNeese - 125-267 - 46.8%

Saddiq Bey - Villanova - 79-175 - 45.1%

Nate Kennell - Bradley - 88-197 - 44.7%

https://www.ncaa.com/stats/basketball-men/d1/current/individual/143

The records for 3-point percentage over a season:

Minimum 50 made:  63.4% - Glenn Tropf, Holy Cross, 1988 (52 of 82)

Minimum 100 made:  57.3% - Steve Kerr, Arizona, 1988 (114 of 199)

http://www.ncaa.org/championships/statistics/2019-20-ncaa-mens-basketball-records

There are only four guards in the top 50 of field goal percentage this season, none of which are in the top 50 for 3-point percentage:

Kevin McKay - Central Michigan - 146-251 - 58.2%

Chad Lott - South Alabama - 177-317 - 55.8%

Gerard Andrus - Prairie View - 200-359 - 55.7%

Tyler Stevenson - Southern Miss - 161-289 - 55.7%

https://www.ncaa.com/stats/basketball-men/d1/current/individual/141

Have to keep in mind that comparing percentages from different years is problematic because the 3 point distance has changed I think at least 4 times.

[Pelado]

43 minutes ago, renoskier said:

Have to keep in mind that comparing percentages from different years is problematic because the 3 point distance has changed I think at least 4 times.

True.  Doesn't change that 49.5% is still really good.