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Corona Virus - How bad is it going to be?

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5 hours ago, HR_Poke said:

Yeah this one supposedly can evade existing vaccines.

might be a little early to say that though

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51 minutes ago, HR_Poke said:

It was based on the spike mutations 

Understood but real world experience can be different and I think they are unsure of what the mutations mean still.  Hopefully it is less contagious than Delta and can't compete.

 

South Africa is not very well vaccinated but has a very high infection rate from previous variants.   Might be able to beat the vaccine and previous infections.

 

England has banned travel from South Africa and several African neighboring countries.

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The father of one of my son's friends died of covid on Wednesday. He was in his late 50's, very overweight and had other health issues in the past, yet refused to be vaccinated. It is tragic, he leaves behind 15 and 18 year old sons, their Mother had passed away several years ago. The crowd he runs with argued against vaccination due to the politics, but also were using the argument that getting the vaccination would be showing a lack of faith in God. I am deeply saddened for his kids.

 

 

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47 minutes ago, grandjean87 said:

It’s scaring the shit out of the markets.  Too early to tell, but this could be where the lethality also takes a dip.  Or, not and that’s going to replicate the effects of the Delta wave. 

It's scaring the shit out of scientists too. We really should have been inocculating the 3rd world long before we were worried about giving boosters in Europe and the US.

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36 minutes ago, HR_Poke said:

It's scaring the shit out of scientists too. We really should have been inocculating the 3rd world long before we were worried about giving boosters in Europe and the US.

Distribution, man.  I mean we have enough resources to feed, clothe, and provide basic housing, and better sanitation for the planet, but that hasn't happened.   Getting the globe vaccinated was always going to be a few years.  Hoping a couple or more new vaccines suitable for underdeveloped nations' distribution are ready by '22 (Novavax, ImmunityBio, others.) with decent efficacy against severe disease.  

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1 hour ago, halfmanhalfbronco said:

 B.1.1.529 confirmed in Belgium 

Belgium case was unvaccinated but seems in South Africa it is hitting young people.

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2 hours ago, grandjean87 said:

It’s scaring the shit out of the markets.  Too early to tell, but this could be where the lethality also takes a dip.  Or, not and that’s going to replicate the effects of the Delta wave. 

Well, gas prices will come down if this holds.  Hope we see the mutation that weakens the virus.   That happens more than the other way around but not always.

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1 hour ago, HR_Poke said:

It's scaring the shit out of scientists too. We really should have been inocculating the 3rd world long before we were worried about giving boosters in Europe and the US.

But then Africa, despite a low vaccination rate, has seen lower covid numbers and is doing better than most.    

 

https://theconversation.com/the-impact-of-covid-19-has-been-lower-in-africa-we-explore-the-reasons-164955

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AP Story

 

"Early evidence suggests an increased risk of reinfection compared to other highly transmissible variants, the WHO said. That means people who contracted COVID-19 and recovered could be subject to catching it again."

 

https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-new-variant-southern-africa-33fa0983af6c9f961a186f4f4bb1147d

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12 minutes ago, Billings said:

AP Story

 

"Early evidence suggests an increased risk of reinfection compared to other highly transmissible variants, the WHO said. That means people who contracted COVID-19 and recovered could be subject to catching it again."

 

https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-new-variant-southern-africa-33fa0983af6c9f961a186f4f4bb1147d

Well let’s hope the increased transmissibility comes with lower risk for death/severe symptoms. If it does, this will be a net positive. Also, it’s good timing that the antiviral pills will be approved very soon. 

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4 hours ago, Mano said:

The father of one of my son's friends died of covid on Wednesday. He was in his late 50's, very overweight and had other health issues in the past, yet refused to be vaccinated. It is tragic, he leaves behind 15 and 18 year old sons, their Mother had passed away several years ago. The crowd he runs with argued against vaccination due to the politics, but also were using the argument that getting the vaccination would be showing a lack of faith in God. I am deeply saddened for his kids.

 

 

sounds like the worlds collective iq improved overnite wednesday...lol

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