Corona Virus - How bad is it going to be?

[RSF]

1 minute ago, thelawlorfaithful said:

Hell yeah, football every night! Just gotta get one pushed to Wednesday.

Tuesday, Dec. 21

Famous Idaho Potato Bowl
Kent State vs. Wyoming
3:30 p.m. | ESPN
Albertsons Stadium in Boise, Idaho

Frisco Bowl
No. 24 San Diego State vs. UTSA
7:30 p.m. | ESPN
Toyota Stadium in Frisco, Texas

[halfmanhalfbronco]

On 12/16/2021 at 2:40 PM, NVGiant said:

You know, I didn't think "Bob, but overtly racist" was a niche we needed to fill on this board. But yet, here we are.

Bob is a far better poster than xx lol, even without the overt racism.  

[RSF]

Just now, halfmanhalfbronco said:

Bob is a far better poster than xx lol, even without the overt racism.  

Talk about a low bar....

[bsu_alum9]

1 hour ago, soupslam1 said:

Maybe I should clarify worthy. I don’t think a cardiac patient should take precedence over an unvaccinated Covid patient. It’s playing god with peoples lives. But hey that’s me, everyone’s got their own opinion. 

Yeah.  I'd have cigarette smokers further to the back of the line than unvaccinated.  At 480k dead per year from tobacco products in the US, it's basically like a pandemic event every year that nobody talks about.

[Billings]

41 minutes ago, soupslam1 said:

Let’s forget cardiac patients as that may not be a good comparison. Do you feel unvaccinated patients should go to the end of the line regardless of the life threatening situation. 

That situation is part of what the doc evaluates in Triage.  What resources are available and what conditions do we have the ability and resources to deal with. In an overrun hospital and ER environment then the type of illness and the length of care it requires has to be part of triage.

Billings has two medium sized hospitals as it is a regional center for Eastern Montana and northern Wyoming.  As of least week they were over 200 RNs short and have had periods of having a hard time providing care to everyone.  A man with a bowel perforation from a small town 100 miles from Billings had to be sent an extra 100 miles to a small Wyoming Hospital where a surgeon was available. So a 200 mile trip for an emergency surgery. Covid patients had overrun the ER and available beds at that time.   A man needing an emergency surgery had to risk a trip that could have killed him due to patients needing long term care.  Such a complicated decision that is just not black and white as you ask.

[SAMO]

13 minutes ago, bsu_alum9 said:

Yeah.  I'd have cigarette smokers further to the back of the line than unvaccinated.  At 480k dead per year from tobacco products in the US, it's basically like a pandemic event every year that nobody talks about.

they should put fat people at the back of the line...lol

obesity kills more than anything after all...lol

maybe slap a hefty excise tax on fast food too, while were at it...lol

[SAMO]

1 minute ago, Billings said:

That situation is part of what the doc evaluates in Triage.  What resources are available and what conditions do we have the ability and resources to deal with. In an overrun hospital and ER environment then the type of illness and the length of care it requires has to be part of triage.

Billings has two medium sized hospitals as it is a regional center for Eastern Montana and northern Wyoming.  As of least week they were over 200 RNs short and have had periods of having a hard time providing care to everyone.  A man with a bowel perforation from a small town 100 miles from Billings had to be sent an extra 100 miles to a small Wyoming Hospital where a surgeon was available. So a 200 mile trip for an emergency surgery. Covid patients had overrun the ER and available beds at that time.   A man needing an emergency surgery had to risk a trip that could have killed him due to patients needing long term care.  Such a complicated decision that is just not black and white as you ask.

thats what happens when you live in the sticks...lol

[soupslam1]

3 minutes ago, Billings said:

That situation is part of what the doc evaluates in Triage.  What resources are available and what conditions do we have the ability and resources to deal with. In an overrun hospital and ER environment then the type of illness and the length of care it requires has to be part of triage.

Billings has two medium sized hospitals as it is a regional center for Eastern Montana and northern Wyoming.  As of least week they were over 200 RNs short and have had periods of having a hard time providing care to everyone.  A man with a bowel perforation from a small town 100 miles from Billings had to be sent an extra 100 miles to a small Wyoming Hospital where a surgeon was available. So a 200 mile trip for an emergency surgery. Covid patients had overrun the ER and available beds at that time.   A man needing an emergency surgery had to risk a trip that could have killed him due to patients needing long term care.  Such a complicated decision that is just not black and white as you ask.

You’re hedging on the question above. Should life threatened unvaccinated Covid patients go to the back of the line? 

[Billings]

1 minute ago, SAMO said:

thats what happens when you live in the sticks...lol

Oh many a major hospital is critically short staff

[SAMO]

Just now, Billings said:

Oh many a major hospital is critically short staff

sounds like a 'them' problem to me...lol

[Billings]

3 minutes ago, soupslam1 said:

You’re hedging on the question above. Should life threatened unvaccinated Covid patients go to the back of the line? 

NO I am saying the situation matters and the answer may not be the same depending on the conditions on the ground at the time.

[Billings]

4 minutes ago, SAMO said:

sounds like a 'them' problem to me...lol

until you need one

[halfmanhalfbronco]

55 minutes ago, RSF said:

Talk about a low bar....

Bob has lost his mind regarding COVID but his sports contributions are better than solid, his outdoors posts are fantastic.  He is not one note and not like a clear racist.  Low bar, sure.  But I love bob.  

[East Coast Aztec]

4 minutes ago, halfmanhalfbronco said:

Bob has lost his mind regarding COVID but his sports contributions are better than solid, his outdoors posts are fantastic.  He is not one note and not like a clear racist.  Low bar, sure.  But I love bob.  

Add maynard to the strange shtick but good photos club as well.  

[bornontheblue]

3 hours ago, soupslam1 said:

I don’t see the part in the HO that allow doctors to choose who is most worthy to live and die. 

Then remove the doctors from the admission process. An admin staff could prioritize with a spread sheet 

[halfmanhalfbronco]

1 minute ago, East Coast Aztec said:

Add maynard to the strange shtick but good photos club as well.  

I like parts of Maynard and dislike others.  Not a huge fan of homophobic attacks and implied racism, pretty neutral on the socvit stuff, it is at least an interesting thought experiment and unique take.  Big fan of his photos and love for our wild spaces and things.

 

[SalinasSpartan]

2 hours ago, soupslam1 said:

 

So do you think life threatened unvaccinated Covid patients should go to the end of the line? I don’t but that’s just me. Everyone’s entitled to their own opinion. 

Again, hospitals have never operated on a first come first serve basis. Stop throwing a bitch fit because you lacked some common knowledge. 

[IanforHeisman]

1 hour ago, halfmanhalfbronco said:

I like parts of Maynard and dislike others.  Not a huge fan of homophobic attacks and implied racism, pretty neutral on the socvit stuff, it is at least an interesting thought experiment and unique take.  Big fan of his photos and love for our wild spaces and things.

 

Yeah me and Maynard are homies in the photography thread, not as much in the others. Same with a few others, makes that thread even cooler.

[IanforHeisman]

Pretty sure Bob showed a graph how great Florida was doing..

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wptv.com/coronavirus/florida-reports-6-846-coronavirus-cases-most-since-sept-24%3f_amp=true

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