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Corona Virus - How bad is it going to be?

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On 7/27/2021 at 1:20 PM, NVGiant said:

My neighbor down the street has one of those waving in his front yards. 

There is a guy on my drive to work who started with an upside down flag, added the f biden one, removed the upside down flag and added a "Trump won save america" flag above it, and then apparently realized that the biden flag indicated the lack of faith in the "Trump won" flag, so now it's only "trump won". 

sometimes I wonder how many hugs he got as a child

Remember that every argument you have with someone on MWCboard is actually the continuation of a different argument they had with someone else also on MWCboard. 

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3 hours ago, mysfit said:

They fill up hospital beds stressing our Healthcare workers. They fill up beds so other people, heart attack, stroke, trauma etc have no beds when needed

Good point. It also postpones some "non-urgent" surgeries.

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LAS VEGAS (AP) — An uptick in coronavirus cases driven by the highly contagious delta variant and Nevada’s flagging rate of vaccinations has pushed hospitalization rates in the state past levels seen in a surge last summer, well before vaccines were available.

Nevada reported Tuesday that 1,148 people were hospitalized with COVID-19 and 67 others were suspected to have the illness.

Those are levels last seen in late January but below the peak seen since the pandemic began. That was in December when hospitals were pushed to near capacity, with few people having access to vaccines and many gathering over the holidays. On Dec. 15, Nevada reported 1,857 confirmed COVID-19 patients.

Now, hospitals have more COVID-19 patients than during a previous surge last summer, when 972 COVID-19 patients were hospitalized and 174 were suspected of having the virus.The Nevada Hospital Association is expected to release new statewide hospital data Wednesday. Amy Shogren, a spokeswoman for the association, said no one was available for an interview Tuesday.As of last week, the Nevada Hospital Association said seven hospitals were reporting a surge in cases above licensed bed counts and five had staffing shortages.

There were 231 COVID-19 patients in intensive care last week — about half the peak of 460 seen on Dec. 22. There were 142 people on ventilators, less than half the level seen at the peak the same December day.

Aimee Eaton, a respiratory therapist in Las Vegas, said health care workers are burned out after more than a year of responding to the pandemic and seeing a wave of new cases, mostly among the unvaccinated.

 

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3 hours ago, mysfit said:

I worry far more about our Healthcare systems than the anti vaxers health. 

The fact is, decisions to not mask, to not distance, to not get the vax impact a whole bunch of other people. They fill up hospital beds stressing our Healthcare workers. They fill up beds so other people, heart attack, stroke, trauma etc have no beds when needed. I've worked Healthcare and understand the physical and emotional drain. It doesn't go away when you leave and it wears you down. 

That's selfish. It pisses me off. It's no longer a matter of personal choice or freedom. I'm tired of the restrictions because these asswipes only think of themselves (and I use the term think with great reservation). 

I know it's complicated and I don't have a good answer but I'm all for tough love and the stick rather than the carrot at this point. 

Yep.  A lot of postponed surgeries and visits already.  That pain and death won't be counted though by the me me me group.

 

Delta is causing more severe illness it appears. Not mutating the way we hope yet anyway

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2 hours ago, FresnoFacts said:

Arkansas banned masks in schools. Now they may reverse direction and allow schools the choice. The Governor has called a special session of the Legislature to debate rescinding the ban.

 

Montana banned nursing homes for requiring a vaccination of its workers.  A special kind of stupid

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36 minutes ago, Billings said:

Montana banned nursing homes for requiring a vaccination of its workers.  A special kind of stupid

Meanwhile, I'm sure the political leaders that made that decision were screeching about Cuomo putting the infected back into nursing homes. 

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3 hours ago, Billings said:

Yep.  A lot of postponed surgeries and visits already.  That pain and death won't be counted though by the me me me group.

 

Delta is causing more severe illness it appears. Not mutating the way we hope yet anyway

My back surgery was delayed a year and by the time I got in I had herniated a disc. In addition to spinal stenosis.

Now I'm looking at surgery to my diaphragm and I hope to heck I can get in before elective surgeries get held up again.

One of the Final Five..........

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15 hours ago, mysfit said:

I worry far more about our Healthcare systems than the anti vaxers health. 

The fact is, decisions to not mask, to not distance, to not get the vax impact a whole bunch of other people. They fill up hospital beds stressing our Healthcare workers. They fill up beds so other people, heart attack, stroke, trauma etc have no beds when needed. I've worked Healthcare and understand the physical and emotional drain. It doesn't go away when you leave and it wears you down. 

That's selfish. It pisses me off. It's no longer a matter of personal choice or freedom. I'm tired of the restrictions because these asswipes only think of themselves (and I use the term think with great reservation). 

I know it's complicated and I don't have a good answer but I'm all for tough love and the stick rather than the carrot at this point. 

I get this. But I wonder if the only way to get these people vaccinated is if more in their circle get really sick or, god forbid, die. It’s an ugly thought, but it seems that the only way they’ll ever take this seriously is if it happens to them.

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8 minutes ago, NVGiant said:

I get this. But I wonder if the only way to get these people vaccinated is if more in their circle get really sick or, god forbid, die. It’s an ugly thought, but it seems that the only way they’ll ever take this seriously is if it happens to them.

That and employer mandates. I agree, unless it happens to them I don't know what else will work.

One of the Final Five..........

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13 hours ago, Lester_in_reno said:

LAS VEGAS (AP) — An uptick in coronavirus cases driven by the highly contagious delta variant and Nevada’s flagging rate of vaccinations has pushed hospitalization rates in the state past levels seen in a surge last summer, well before vaccines were available.

Nevada reported Tuesday that 1,148 people were hospitalized with COVID-19 and 67 others were suspected to have the illness.

Those are levels last seen in late January but below the peak seen since the pandemic began. That was in December when hospitals were pushed to near capacity, with few people having access to vaccines and many gathering over the holidays. On Dec. 15, Nevada reported 1,857 confirmed COVID-19 patients.

Now, hospitals have more COVID-19 patients than during a previous surge last summer, when 972 COVID-19 patients were hospitalized and 174 were suspected of having the virus.The Nevada Hospital Association is expected to release new statewide hospital data Wednesday. Amy Shogren, a spokeswoman for the association, said no one was available for an interview Tuesday.As of last week, the Nevada Hospital Association said seven hospitals were reporting a surge in cases above licensed bed counts and five had staffing shortages.

There were 231 COVID-19 patients in intensive care last week — about half the peak of 460 seen on Dec. 22. There were 142 people on ventilators, less than half the level seen at the peak the same December day.

Aimee Eaton, a respiratory therapist in Las Vegas, said health care workers are burned out after more than a year of responding to the pandemic and seeing a wave of new cases, mostly among the unvaccinated.

 

This is what is pissing me off. I still want to see them erect field hospitals for the unvaxxed. Get them out of the primary healthcare system.

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19 hours ago, Joe from WY said:

Yeah, but the fallacy in that whole line of thinking is equating the authority of a customs official or the intensity of a hiring process to that held by some kid getting paid 8 dollars an hour to be a greeter somewhere trying to explain to some angry irrational drunks why they can't come in because they don't have their vaccine card.

All it will lead to is more problems for not only the businesses themselves, but the workers too. There's some bars that require vaccines here now (and have for a couple weeks) and everytime I'm sitting out in front of one in particular, I see people get super shitty with the dude sitting at the front of the door.

If businesses want to opt for that sort of thing, that's totally fine, but I don't think such a practice should be mandated.

How is this not a dumber version of the heckler's veto, though?

Edited, as first version said hacker's veto not heckler's...

Planning is an exercise of power, and in a modern state much real power is suffused with boredom. The agents of planning are usually boring; the planning process is boring; the implementation of plans is always boring. In a democracy boredom works for bureaucracies and corporations as smell works for skunk. It keeps danger away. Power does not have to be exercised behind the scenes. It can be open. The audience is asleep. The modern world is forged amidst our inattention.

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Just now, Joe from WY said:

That state is run by the dumbest people on the planet currently.

Idaho says this can't be. ... Then proceeds to murder wolves and dox rape victims.

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3 minutes ago, Joe from WY said:

They're giving each other a run for their money. Montana's governor thinks the world is 6000 years old and funded the Creation Museum, among other things, so Idaho and them are neck and neck in the dumb+++++ category IMO.

It feels so boring here in Oregon, where all we have is people burning down the state's largest city, senators sneaking in MAGA rioters into the state capitol, and the whole eastern part of the state licking door knobs for freedom in solidarity with their crazy ass neighbors to the east.

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3 minutes ago, Joe from WY said:

I think that's the only way you're going to get the vaxx rates up. Beyond that, screams/pleads with the unvaxxed to get vaxxed is going to get treated in the same general way that I treat religious kooks I walk by when I'm walking down the street pleading/screaming at me to become "saved" or whatever; an annoyance at best that is heavily ignored.

I think you're right. The rising death/serious illness rate is the only way to get them to play ball IMO.

 

It's like little kids. Sometimes you got to let them touch the hot thing so they know not to touch the hot thing.

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1 hour ago, Joe from WY said:

They're giving each other a run for their money. Montana's governor thinks the world is 6000 years old and funded the Creation Museum, among other things, so Idaho and them are neck and neck in the dumb+++++ category IMO.

Shoot, you need to go to Kentucky.

 

 

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It gives me a headache just trying to think down to your level

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19 minutes ago, soupslam1 said:

Hey dumbass who appointed you to tell people what to do? If he or she wants to get vaccinated they will. Otherwise STFU. Badgering people doesn’t accomplish anything. 

Lol. 

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