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Corona Virus - How bad is it going to be?

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12 minutes ago, SalinasSpartan said:

WHY DO YOU HATE FREEDOM!?

It’s an ask and not a mandate enforced by gunpoint and extended stays at the gulag. I’m just a dad.

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40 minutes ago, halfmanhalfbronco said:

With top 25 it is also about the issues it would cause if she was to get a positive result and child care.  It would be a huge disruption to his life and pose significant problems for a young family going through changes in household dynamics already.  Not to mention, new variants are shown to infect kids at much higher rates.  And long term effects are not known.

Yeah, my son's daycare classroom had a positive test so they shut the class down for 2 weeks with zero notice. Still had to pay for the full month though.

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12 minutes ago, East Coast Aztec said:

I predict it to get weird when you are there, if it is already a problem now.  I am guessing they are going to "forget" what you have requested quite a bit.  Prayers sent, and remember, they are still family, ya gotta love em even when they push your buttons.

I agree you got to love them, but you don't have to put up with them undermining your autonomy and authority as a parent. Set boundaries with love, but hold the line and don't budge this early. Even if you kind of have to be a dick about it. If they want to see the baby and hold the baby and all that, the'll do it. @BSUTOP25 has all the leverage here. Trust me. 

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5 minutes ago, bsu_alum9 said:

Yeah, my son's daycare classroom had a positive test so they shut the class down for 2 weeks with zero notice. Still had to pay for the full month though.

Same situation with me. All the while I’m trying to convince my Massachusetts born and raised wife to be open to moving back to Idaho. This type of dynamic isn’t going to help my cause. 

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5 minutes ago, BSUTOP25 said:

Same situation with me. All the while I’m trying to convince my Massachusetts born and raised wife to be open to moving back to Idaho. This type of dynamic isn’t going to help my cause. 

You have mentioned the fry sauce, right?

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19 hours ago, soupslam1 said:

Oregon was one of those outliers that missed the worst of the pandemic. 

Not an outlier. Just low end of the spectrum. Even with the current spike, we're still better than all but Hawaii and Vermont. But whatya gonna do? Neither of those states have Eastern Oregon.

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8 hours ago, BSUTOP25 said:

We had our opportunity to reach herd immunity but it won’t happen due to vaccine hesitation. So now we’re going to have to live with seasonal flare ups of COVID similar to influenza. Moving forward, it likely won’t be as deadly unless a nasty variant takes hold.

Eh. Those who've been infected have some degree of protection too. There's some overlap, but...

Also: Even a single dose of the mRNA vaccines is pretty helpful.

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3 hours ago, BSUTOP25 said:

Same situation with me. All the while I’m trying to convince my Massachusetts born and raised wife to be open to moving back to Idaho. This type of dynamic isn’t going to help my cause. 

If she grew up inside the 495 that will be a tough task.  Even if she goes it might be a short stint.

 

No bubblers in ID

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2 hours ago, Maji said:

Eh. Those who've been infected have some degree of protection too. There's some overlap, but...

Also: Even a single dose of the mRNA vaccines is pretty helpful.

Yeah, I think some places are already pretty close to herd immunity (like Vermont), 65% of population has received 1 dose and rising (currently at 0.5% per day).

Meanwhile Mississippi is at 32.5% and has vaccinated 0.5% in the last week (they've already flat lined).  But even there I doubt Covid will be very deadly, because the most vulnerable people have been vaccinated at pretty high rates even there (those <65).  They'll have higher case counts (or people will stop being tested) this fall but it won't effect their elderly too much.

*As long as the vaccine keeps up protection against whatever new variants pop up.

 

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4 minutes ago, bsu_alum9 said:

Yeah, I think some places are already pretty close to herd immunity (like Vermont), 65% of population has received 1 dose and rising (currently at 0.5% per day).

Meanwhile Mississippi is at 32.5% and has vaccinated 0.5% in the last week (they've already flat lined).  But even there I doubt Covid will be very deadly, because the most vulnerable people have been vaccinated at pretty high rates even there (those <65).  They'll have higher case counts (or people will stop being tested) this fall but it won't effect their elderly too much.

*As long as the vaccine keeps up protection against whatever new variants pop up.

 

San Francisco is pretty much there. I was there last weekend and they are averaging something like 20 cases a day now.

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6 hours ago, halfmanhalfbronco said:

I mean, it really is looking like at this point gain of function research for coronaviruses from bat populations in a low security lab is far more likely than a bat to human transmission, given the feeble affinity for bat cells.  Bat to intermediary species to human seems far fetched now too.  China has tested some 6000 possible species, and has come up empty.

It came from the lab, guys.  

An L4 lab is like what we would use to identify a pulsating glob that fell from the sky and all the sheep nearby died with exploding eyeballs.  They are about as secure proof as you can get.  An L2 lab....is like gloves and goggles and a lab jacket where you grab beers afterwards and may forget to wash your hands.

The Wuhan Institute of Virology is a L4.

https://www.nature.com/news/inside-the-chinese-lab-poised-to-study-world-s-most-dangerous-pathogens-1.21487

This paper reasons there is an ~83% likelyhood it was leaked from a lab.

https://www.rootclaim.com/analysis/What-is-the-source-of-COVID-19-SARS-CoV-2

 

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1 minute ago, bsu_alum9 said:

 

The Wuhan institute HAS L4's....

They were doing the gain of function research in an L2, which they ALSO have.

 

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The researchers were not vaccinated against the viruses under study, and they were working in the minimal safety conditions of a BSL2 laboratory.

https://science.thewire.in/the-sciences/origins-of-covid-19-who-opened-pandoras-box-at-wuhan-people-or-nature/

https://nicholaswade.medium.com/origin-of-covid-following-the-clues-6f03564c038

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18 hours ago, halfmanhalfbronco said:

The researchers were not vaccinated against the viruses under study, and they were working in the minimal safety conditions of a BSL2 laboratory.

https://science.thewire.in/the-sciences/origins-of-covid-19-who-opened-pandoras-box-at-wuhan-people-or-nature/

https://nicholaswade.medium.com/origin-of-covid-following-the-clues-6f03564c038

In case anyone wants scientific papers published out of the institute in question. From 2016

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4936131/ 

All experiments using live virus was conducted under biosafety level 2 (BSL2) conditions. 

And from...2020. You can’t make this shit up.

https://jvi.asm.org/content/94/20/e00902-20

MATERIALS AND METHODS

All work with the infectious virus was performed under biosafety level 2 conditions with appropriate personal protection.

 

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On 5/17/2021 at 1:47 PM, BSUTOP25 said:

Same situation with me. All the while I’m trying to convince my Massachusetts born and raised wife to be open to moving back to Idaho. This type of dynamic isn’t going to help my cause. 

Come to Florida, we can storm the beaches of Orlando!!!!

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