BSUTOP25 Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 12 minutes ago, SalinasSpartan said: WHY DO YOU HATE FREEDOM!? It’s an ask and not a mandate enforced by gunpoint and extended stays at the gulag. I’m just a dad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsu_alum9 Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 40 minutes ago, halfmanhalfbronco said: With top 25 it is also about the issues it would cause if she was to get a positive result and child care. It would be a huge disruption to his life and pose significant problems for a young family going through changes in household dynamics already. Not to mention, new variants are shown to infect kids at much higher rates. And long term effects are not known. Yeah, my son's daycare classroom had a positive test so they shut the class down for 2 weeks with zero notice. Still had to pay for the full month though. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smltwnrckr Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 12 minutes ago, East Coast Aztec said: I predict it to get weird when you are there, if it is already a problem now. I am guessing they are going to "forget" what you have requested quite a bit. Prayers sent, and remember, they are still family, ya gotta love em even when they push your buttons. I agree you got to love them, but you don't have to put up with them undermining your autonomy and authority as a parent. Set boundaries with love, but hold the line and don't budge this early. Even if you kind of have to be a dick about it. If they want to see the baby and hold the baby and all that, the'll do it. @BSUTOP25 has all the leverage here. Trust me. 1 Quote Planning is an exercise of power, and in a modern state much real power is suffused with boredom. The agents of planning are usually boring; the planning process is boring; the implementation of plans is always boring. In a democracy boredom works for bureaucracies and corporations as smell works for skunk. It keeps danger away. Power does not have to be exercised behind the scenes. It can be open. The audience is asleep. The modern world is forged amidst our inattention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSUTOP25 Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 5 minutes ago, bsu_alum9 said: Yeah, my son's daycare classroom had a positive test so they shut the class down for 2 weeks with zero notice. Still had to pay for the full month though. Same situation with me. All the while I’m trying to convince my Massachusetts born and raised wife to be open to moving back to Idaho. This type of dynamic isn’t going to help my cause. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Coast Aztec Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 5 minutes ago, BSUTOP25 said: Same situation with me. All the while I’m trying to convince my Massachusetts born and raised wife to be open to moving back to Idaho. This type of dynamic isn’t going to help my cause. You have mentioned the fry sauce, right? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NVGiant Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 2 hours ago, East Coast Aztec said: You have mentioned the Thousand Island, right? FIFY 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NVGiant Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 19 hours ago, soupslam1 said: Oregon was one of those outliers that missed the worst of the pandemic. Not an outlier. Just low end of the spectrum. Even with the current spike, we're still better than all but Hawaii and Vermont. But whatya gonna do? Neither of those states have Eastern Oregon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maji Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 8 hours ago, BSUTOP25 said: We had our opportunity to reach herd immunity but it won’t happen due to vaccine hesitation. So now we’re going to have to live with seasonal flare ups of COVID similar to influenza. Moving forward, it likely won’t be as deadly unless a nasty variant takes hold. Eh. Those who've been infected have some degree of protection too. There's some overlap, but... Also: Even a single dose of the mRNA vaccines is pretty helpful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maji Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 It's time to move forward Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitteraztec Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 3 hours ago, BSUTOP25 said: Same situation with me. All the while I’m trying to convince my Massachusetts born and raised wife to be open to moving back to Idaho. This type of dynamic isn’t going to help my cause. If she grew up inside the 495 that will be a tough task. Even if she goes it might be a short stint. No bubblers in ID 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smltwnrckr Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 3 hours ago, East Coast Aztec said: You have mentioned the Russian Dressing, right? 52 minutes ago, NVGiant said: FIFY FIFY 1 1 Quote Planning is an exercise of power, and in a modern state much real power is suffused with boredom. The agents of planning are usually boring; the planning process is boring; the implementation of plans is always boring. In a democracy boredom works for bureaucracies and corporations as smell works for skunk. It keeps danger away. Power does not have to be exercised behind the scenes. It can be open. The audience is asleep. The modern world is forged amidst our inattention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsu_alum9 Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 2 hours ago, Maji said: Eh. Those who've been infected have some degree of protection too. There's some overlap, but... Also: Even a single dose of the mRNA vaccines is pretty helpful. Yeah, I think some places are already pretty close to herd immunity (like Vermont), 65% of population has received 1 dose and rising (currently at 0.5% per day). Meanwhile Mississippi is at 32.5% and has vaccinated 0.5% in the last week (they've already flat lined). But even there I doubt Covid will be very deadly, because the most vulnerable people have been vaccinated at pretty high rates even there (those <65). They'll have higher case counts (or people will stop being tested) this fall but it won't effect their elderly too much. *As long as the vaccine keeps up protection against whatever new variants pop up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NVGiant Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 4 minutes ago, bsu_alum9 said: Yeah, I think some places are already pretty close to herd immunity (like Vermont), 65% of population has received 1 dose and rising (currently at 0.5% per day). Meanwhile Mississippi is at 32.5% and has vaccinated 0.5% in the last week (they've already flat lined). But even there I doubt Covid will be very deadly, because the most vulnerable people have been vaccinated at pretty high rates even there (those <65). They'll have higher case counts (or people will stop being tested) this fall but it won't effect their elderly too much. *As long as the vaccine keeps up protection against whatever new variants pop up. San Francisco is pretty much there. I was there last weekend and they are averaging something like 20 cases a day now. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsu_alum9 Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 6 hours ago, halfmanhalfbronco said: I mean, it really is looking like at this point gain of function research for coronaviruses from bat populations in a low security lab is far more likely than a bat to human transmission, given the feeble affinity for bat cells. Bat to intermediary species to human seems far fetched now too. China has tested some 6000 possible species, and has come up empty. It came from the lab, guys. An L4 lab is like what we would use to identify a pulsating glob that fell from the sky and all the sheep nearby died with exploding eyeballs. They are about as secure proof as you can get. An L2 lab....is like gloves and goggles and a lab jacket where you grab beers afterwards and may forget to wash your hands. The Wuhan Institute of Virology is a L4. https://www.nature.com/news/inside-the-chinese-lab-poised-to-study-world-s-most-dangerous-pathogens-1.21487 This paper reasons there is an ~83% likelyhood it was leaked from a lab. https://www.rootclaim.com/analysis/What-is-the-source-of-COVID-19-SARS-CoV-2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfmanhalfbronco Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 1 minute ago, bsu_alum9 said: The Wuhan Institute of Virology is a L4. https://www.nature.com/news/inside-the-chinese-lab-poised-to-study-world-s-most-dangerous-pathogens-1.21487 This paper reasons there is an ~83% likelyhood it was leaked from a lab. https://www.rootclaim.com/analysis/What-is-the-source-of-COVID-19-SARS-CoV-2 The Wuhan institute HAS L4's.... They were doing the gain of function research in an L2, which they ALSO have. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfmanhalfbronco Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 The researchers were not vaccinated against the viruses under study, and they were working in the minimal safety conditions of a BSL2 laboratory. https://science.thewire.in/the-sciences/origins-of-covid-19-who-opened-pandoras-box-at-wuhan-people-or-nature/ https://nicholaswade.medium.com/origin-of-covid-following-the-clues-6f03564c038 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelawlorfaithful Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 18 hours ago, halfmanhalfbronco said: The researchers were not vaccinated against the viruses under study, and they were working in the minimal safety conditions of a BSL2 laboratory. https://science.thewire.in/the-sciences/origins-of-covid-19-who-opened-pandoras-box-at-wuhan-people-or-nature/ https://nicholaswade.medium.com/origin-of-covid-following-the-clues-6f03564c038 In case anyone wants scientific papers published out of the institute in question. From 2016 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4936131/ All experiments using live virus was conducted under biosafety level 2 (BSL2) conditions. And from...2020. You can’t make this shit up. https://jvi.asm.org/content/94/20/e00902-20 MATERIALS AND METHODS All work with the infectious virus was performed under biosafety level 2 conditions with appropriate personal protection. 1 Quote Beware: some posts have been met with threats of litigation. There are levels to this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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tailingpermit Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 On 5/17/2021 at 1:47 PM, BSUTOP25 said: Same situation with me. All the while I’m trying to convince my Massachusetts born and raised wife to be open to moving back to Idaho. This type of dynamic isn’t going to help my cause. Come to Florida, we can storm the beaches of Orlando!!!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPslograd Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 https://thefederalist.com/2021/05/18/read-mitch-daniels-charge-to-graduates-the-biggest-risk-of-all-is-that-we-stop-taking-risks-at-all/ Good speech here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
