thelawlorfaithful Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 10 minutes ago, smltwnrckr said: I dont think chaos theory has that much to do with the fallibility of people though. Humans are a nonlinear equation. Quote Beware: some posts have been met with threats of litigation. There are levels to this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smltwnrckr Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, thelawlorfaithful said: Humans are a nonlinear equation. No more than anything else. But fair enough. Humans are part of chaos... just not the center of it. You know they call chaos and complexity the postmodern sciences right? Quote Planning is an exercise of power, and in a modern state much real power is suffused with boredom. The agents of planning are usually boring; the planning process is boring; the implementation of plans is always boring. In a democracy boredom works for bureaucracies and corporations as smell works for skunk. It keeps danger away. Power does not have to be exercised behind the scenes. It can be open. The audience is asleep. The modern world is forged amidst our inattention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smltwnrckr Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 Also, this thread is more than 700 pages. Wow. 1 Quote Planning is an exercise of power, and in a modern state much real power is suffused with boredom. The agents of planning are usually boring; the planning process is boring; the implementation of plans is always boring. In a democracy boredom works for bureaucracies and corporations as smell works for skunk. It keeps danger away. Power does not have to be exercised behind the scenes. It can be open. The audience is asleep. The modern world is forged amidst our inattention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfmanhalfbronco Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, smltwnrckr said: No more than anything else. But fair enough. Humans are part of chaos... just not the center of it. You know they call chaos and complexity the postmodern sciences right? Second law of thermo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smltwnrckr Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 1 minute ago, halfmanhalfbronco said: Second law of thermo? I dunno. The stuff I read is largely in ecology and socio-natural systems. Physics might as well be greek to me. But I imagine some of the ideas apply? Fractal math is badass though. Quote Planning is an exercise of power, and in a modern state much real power is suffused with boredom. The agents of planning are usually boring; the planning process is boring; the implementation of plans is always boring. In a democracy boredom works for bureaucracies and corporations as smell works for skunk. It keeps danger away. Power does not have to be exercised behind the scenes. It can be open. The audience is asleep. The modern world is forged amidst our inattention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelawlorfaithful Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, smltwnrckr said: No more than anything else. But fair enough. Humans are part of chaos... just not the center of it. You know they call chaos and complexity the postmodern sciences right? What they call them means nothing to me. Unless they are Jeff Goldbloom. 1 Quote Beware: some posts have been met with threats of litigation. There are levels to this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smltwnrckr Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 4 minutes ago, thelawlorfaithful said: What they call them means nothing to me. Unless they are Jeff Goldbloom. Lol. So if I get Jeff Goldbloom to tell you about how everything is the product of discourse, you'll listen? 1 Quote Planning is an exercise of power, and in a modern state much real power is suffused with boredom. The agents of planning are usually boring; the planning process is boring; the implementation of plans is always boring. In a democracy boredom works for bureaucracies and corporations as smell works for skunk. It keeps danger away. Power does not have to be exercised behind the scenes. It can be open. The audience is asleep. The modern world is forged amidst our inattention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelawlorfaithful Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 4 minutes ago, smltwnrckr said: Lol. So if I get Jeff Goldbloom to tell you about how everything is the product of discourse, you'll listen? Punch yourself in the balls Quote Beware: some posts have been met with threats of litigation. There are levels to this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smltwnrckr Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 Just now, thelawlorfaithful said: Punch yourself in the balls Discourse...... 1 Quote Planning is an exercise of power, and in a modern state much real power is suffused with boredom. The agents of planning are usually boring; the planning process is boring; the implementation of plans is always boring. In a democracy boredom works for bureaucracies and corporations as smell works for skunk. It keeps danger away. Power does not have to be exercised behind the scenes. It can be open. The audience is asleep. The modern world is forged amidst our inattention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelawlorfaithful Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, smltwnrckr said: Discourse...... You win this round. Quote Beware: some posts have been met with threats of litigation. There are levels to this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bornontheblue Posted May 16, 2021 Author Share Posted May 16, 2021 On 5/14/2021 at 11:19 PM, smltwnrckr said: Also, this thread is more than 700 pages. Wow. This thread should be sent to the national archives to document how the country dealt with the pandemic. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bornontheblue Posted May 16, 2021 Author Share Posted May 16, 2021 The pandemic is coming to an end. I think Covid will flare up the occasional hot spots thanks to all the @Bob , but we are near the end 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NVGiant Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 21 minutes ago, bornontheblue said: The pandemic is coming to an end. I think Covid will flare up the occasional hot spots thanks to all the @Bob , but we are near the end It’s so strange from my POV. Case rates are plummeting, except where I live, it seems. We’re at the back end of our worst spike of the pandemic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old_SD_Dude Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 41 minutes ago, bornontheblue said: This thread should be sent to the national archives to document how the country dealt with the pandemic. I agree there would be some archive value, but we’ve been vaccinated more than the general population. Unfortunately, there are a lot more Bobs out there than on here. Quote Thay Haif Said: Quhat Say Thay? Lat Thame Say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smltwnrckr Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 1 hour ago, bornontheblue said: This thread should be sent to the national archives to document how the country dealt with the pandemic. Yes, no joke. I really think this thread is historically significant. Quote Planning is an exercise of power, and in a modern state much real power is suffused with boredom. The agents of planning are usually boring; the planning process is boring; the implementation of plans is always boring. In a democracy boredom works for bureaucracies and corporations as smell works for skunk. It keeps danger away. Power does not have to be exercised behind the scenes. It can be open. The audience is asleep. The modern world is forged amidst our inattention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NMpackalum Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 I think there are a lot more Bobs out there than are represented on this thread. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Coast Aztec Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 40 minutes ago, NMpackalum said: I think there are a lot more Bobs out there than are represented on this thread. You can see a more representative sample on the SECRant boards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soupslam1 Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 8 hours ago, NVGiant said: It’s so strange from my POV. Case rates are plummeting, except where I live, it seems. We’re at the back end of our worst spike of the pandemic. Oregon was one of those outliers that missed the worst of the pandemic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ridgeview2 Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 10 hours ago, bornontheblue said: This thread should be sent to the national archives to document how the country dealt with the pandemic. Honestly, this is exactly what I was thinking. This thread is over 700 pages that dealt with the unknown beginnings, scientific speculations, personal tragedies, political fallout, and humanity perseverance. I'd like to get a hardcopy for my bookshelf and throw in a few side chapters of the professional and collegiate sports threads on how they dealt with the pandemic. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSUTOP25 Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 20 hours ago, bornontheblue said: The pandemic is coming to an end. I think Covid will flare up the occasional hot spots thanks to all the @Bob , but we are near the end We had our opportunity to reach herd immunity but it won’t happen due to vaccine hesitation. So now we’re going to have to live with seasonal flare ups of COVID similar to influenza. Moving forward, it likely won’t be as deadly unless a nasty variant takes hold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
