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Corona Virus - How bad is it going to be?

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Got my second dose of the Moderna vaccine on Wednesday. Injection site is a lot more sore this time, sour stomach, diarrhea and some moderate body aches, but overall not too bad. Others I know were down and out for a couple days. 
 

Washoe county seems to be running their site fairly efficiently, took less than 30 minutes both times, including a 15 min waiting period after the shot. 

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1 minute ago, Blue voodoo said:

You have a 99 percent survival Rate and dont even need the vaccine.

Several points

1)People have friends/family that they don't want to get sick.

2)1/100 chance of dying? That's pretty high and if you can mitigate the risk with a shot why not? 

3) There are potential long term effects of this disease

4) You don't even know them, you assume a lot.

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18 minutes ago, Blue voodoo said:

You have a 99 percent survival Rate and dont even need the vaccine.

You have a 99.999999% survival rate with the vaccine. Why not take the 1/1000000 risk of dying with the vaccine to prevent the 1% chance of dying from the infection? Won't find much better odds of risk vs benefit in any other situation in life.

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Blue voodoo is what happens when family trees do not fork...

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This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.

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4 hours ago, Blue voodoo said:

2 million people have died give or take right?7.5 billion people in the world give or take so maybe a percentage?how is that assuming?

Are you assuming everyone in the world has gotten it? In the United States there are 450k deaths from an estimated 80 million infections. So if it continues to spread through the entire population to get herd immunity 1.5 million will die. If we get 60% vaccinated we’ll have 600k dead or so and the virus will likely be basically eradicated.

So roughly 1 million lives saved by vaccinations in US alone. Are you trying to say America would be better with a million dead boomers or what?

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MAGA protesters shut down one of the largest vaccination stations in CA:

https://news.yahoo.com/dodger-stadiums-covid-19-vaccination-233339650.html

Directions to protesters:

A post on social media described the demonstration as the "Scamdemic Protest/March." It advised participants to "please refrain from wearing Trump/MAGA attire as we want our statement to resonate with the sheeple. No flags but informational signs only.

"This is a sharing information protest and march against everything COVID, Vaccine, PCR Tests, Lockdowns, Masks, Fauci, Gates, Newsom, China, digital tracking, etc."

 

 

 

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A few weeks back I copied here a post from an investor forum on which I participate.  Same LA County doc’s recent take w/minor edits mostly formatting:

“Vaccine news is overall pretty good. We have seen early data from Israel and from the fire department in Philadelphia. I believe that infection rates are dropping rapidly. New infections in nursing homes in the US are also falling. Total number of hospitalized in US are down from 130k to 100k in last few weeks.  

Locally we are still packed with patients and overflowing capacity but not getting worse week over week anymore. Hoping we will soon see hospitalizations drop as daily new infections are down 50% since New Years.  

It is a bit hard to make sense of some of the vaccine numbers. Both Pfizer and Moderna reported over 90% efficacy, but JNJ reporting around 65%, and AstraZeneca also reporting lower numbers. But there are a few caveats.

First, it seems that the immune response to the JNJ vaccine builds over several weeks, and there were no new infections seen 7 weeks after vaccination. Second, and most important, no one died who got any of the vaccines (JNJ))or even ended up in ICU on ventilator. If the vaccines keep people out of the hospital and reduce infection to "just the flu" or even less, that is still good enough.

The issue of mutation is worth keeping an eye on, though so far it doesnt seem like any of the mutations in the spike protein render the vaccines ineffective.  

The best way to avoid mutations is to reduce the effective size of the virus population, which means reducing the number of infections to as low as possible as quickly as possible. This means we need to vaccinate the world. This will require governments to act together and coordinate a comprehensive plan for global vaccination.”

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2 hours ago, grandjean87 said:

 

A few weeks back I copied here a post from an investor forum on which I participate.  Same LA County doc’s recent take w/minor edits mostly formatting:

“Vaccine news is overall pretty good. We have seen early data from Israel and from the fire department in Philadelphia. I believe that infection rates are dropping rapidly. New infections in nursing homes in the US are also falling. Total number of hospitalized in US are down from 130k to 100k in last few weeks.  

Locally we are still packed with patients and overflowing capacity but not getting worse week over week anymore. Hoping we will soon see hospitalizations drop as daily new infections are down 50% since New Years.  

It is a bit hard to make sense of some of the vaccine numbers. Both Pfizer and Moderna reported over 90% efficacy, but JNJ reporting around 65%, and AstraZeneca also reporting lower numbers. But there are a few caveats.

First, it seems that the immune response to the JNJ vaccine builds over several weeks, and there were no new infections seen 7 weeks after vaccination. Second, and most important, no one died who got any of the vaccines (JNJ))or even ended up in ICU on ventilator. If the vaccines keep people out of the hospital and reduce infection to "just the flu" or even less, that is still good enough.

The issue of mutation is worth keeping an eye on, though so far it doesnt seem like any of the mutations in the spike protein render the vaccines ineffective.  

The best way to avoid mutations is to reduce the effective size of the virus population, which means reducing the number of infections to as low as possible as quickly as possible. This means we need to vaccinate the world. This will require governments to act together and coordinate a comprehensive plan for global vaccination.”

J&J was also tested in a very different covid situation than Moderna and Pfizer were. This is why the early advice from some conservative outlets to hide away the vulnerable and let life go on was so horrible.  Widespread Covid encouraging even more mutations.

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5 hours ago, UNLV2001 said:

 

Wisconsin is Florida with flannel shirts and flatter accents.

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