Corona Virus - How bad is it going to be?

[Spaztecs]

9 minutes ago, SalinasSpartan said:

So what should the response have been? 

[Bob]

9 hours ago, toonkee said:

F em. They were all going to die anyway.

Wrong (Trump voice). This is squarely on people like you that crave lockdowns.

[Bob]

10 hours ago, grandjean87 said:

Wrong, dickless Bob.  Never a Democrat. 
Wrong on the rest of analysis, too. 

Ah, I forgot, another independent centrist. My bad

[Spaztecs]

2 minutes ago, Bob said:

Wrong (Trump voice). This is squarely on people like you that crave lockdowns.

No.

We don't.

We just know it's necessary and short term.

[Bob]

1 hour ago, BYUcougfan said:

Its not F'em.  300,000 deaths is a big number. But, age and mortality regardless of COVID should be part of the calculus when you are talking about government actions that impact the livelihoods of the 350,000,000 million people in the U.S. that will continue living.  It is not all or nothing.

And it's not like there's anything to be done anyway! you can't shut society down and there's really no good way of protecting anyone. It's going to get who it's going to get. myriad approaches have been tried, results seemingly have no correlation. It's crazy that people don't understand this by now.

[toonkee]

1 hour ago, BYUcougfan said:

Its not F'em.  300,000 deaths is a big number. But, age and mortality regardless of COVID should be part of the calculus when you are talking about government actions that impact the livelihoods of the 350,000,000 million people in the U.S. that will continue living.  It is not all or nothing.

Yes.

I was just being stupid for Bob.

[Bob]

33 minutes ago, Spaztecs said:

Serious question @Bob

If we followed your advice and conducted our lives, economy, school attendance, entertainment attendance,  etc. as if this was just another flu bug. In your estimation what would the outcome be ?

A healthy economy ? Doubtful, as most workers would have contracted Covid, the death rates and long haul syndrome cases would be exponentially worse. There would be no workforce.

Well Educated kids ? Doubtful as most teachers would not be able to teach and every school aged child in America would have got severly sick. Our University students and staff would be devestated.

Entertainment ? Keep the theaters open ? Full attendance at sporting events ? Go for it Bobster. This is what Makes America Great.

Allow people to visit their elderly friends/relatives in care facilities ? Say Hasta la Vista to your elderly loved ones.

We wouldn't have a pandemic. We would have a full blown plague.

But hey, YOU get to shop without a mask and do what YOU want.  YOU would have that long term delusion of self righteousness believing YOU are smarter than the experts. Which, based on your input is all that matters.

Phuck everybody else.

I would have loved to see how that attitude would have worked on the West Coast in say, 1942.

 

lol at your entire post. I don't have time to mock all the idiotic sentiments. Same resultant number of deaths. You can't hide from it  and still even have a semi-function society.

[Spaztecs]

Just now, Bob said:

lol at your entire post. I don't have time to mock all the idiotic sentiments. Same resultant number of deaths. You can't hide from it  and still even have a semi-function society.

We would have a plague and a non functioning society if we did it your way.

But half of America is doing it your way.

So, WTF.

Let's have at it and separate the wheat from the chaff. We have to many malingerers in this country anyway.

[soupslam1]

42 minutes ago, Spaztecs said:

We would have a plague and a non functioning society if we did it your way.

But half of America is doing it your way.

So, WTF.

Let's have at it and separate the wheat from the chaff. We have to many malingerers in this country anyway.

Pandemic gonna pandemic. Mother Nature is kicking ass and man/science are being TKOd

[FresnoFacts]

Attorney L. Lin Wood, besides trying to flip the election to Trump, is also attacking Moderna's vaccine today.

Note: L. Lin Wood's Twitter profile features the Qanon "WWG1WGA".

 

[SalinasSpartan]

1 hour ago, soupslam1 said:

Pandemic gonna pandemic. Mother Nature is kicking ass and man/science are being TKOd

TKOd? There are 3 effective vaccines that will be authorized in December, wtf are you talking about?

[grandjean87]

2 hours ago, Bob said:

Ah, I forgot, another independent centrist. My bad

Not exactly, but probably the closest thing you’d grasp. It’s not as fun as reactionary populism, but it works better. 

[renoskier]

4 hours ago, BYUcougfan said:

Its not F'em.  300,000 deaths is a big number. But, age and mortality regardless of COVID should be part of the calculus when you are talking about government actions that impact the livelihoods of the 350,000,000 million people in the U.S. that will continue living.  It is not all or nothing.

And at what point has the government's response been "all or nothing"?

[FresnoFacts]

"no matter how sensible"? That sums it all up.

 

[NorCalCoug]

3 hours ago, Bob said:

lol at your entire post. I don't have time to mock all the idiotic sentiments. Same resultant number of deaths. You can't hide from it  and still even have a semi-function society.

He posts a shocking amount of disinformation on this board....  missed his true calling in life as a Russian Bot.  Perfect example of an emotion based rant vs fact based dialogue.

[soupslam1]

1 hour ago, SalinasSpartan said:

TKOd? There are 3 effective vaccines that will be authorized in December, wtf are you talking about?

Science has become the god of the secular. Man/science<<<<<<Mother Nature who man thinks he can control but never will.

[SalinasSpartan]

15 minutes ago, soupslam1 said:

Science has become the god of the secular. Man/science<<<<<<Mother Nature who man thinks he can control but never will.

I am a practicing Catholic, so once again, not really sure wtf you are talking about.

[Maji]

1 hour ago, soupslam1 said:

Science has become the god of the secular. Man/science<<<<<<Mother Nature who man thinks he can control but never will.

No. You just think your beliefs are better.

You can be a Christian and support ingenuity. You can be a Christian and support protecting the environment. You can be a Christian and support protecting those with pre-existing conditions.

[Maji]

Humanity isn't helpless. Moderna designed their COVID-19 vaccine in two days. Two days. Maybe science isn't so bad

Vaccines being available this early will save hundreds of thousands of lives

[thelawlorfaithful]

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/11/absolutely-remarkable-no-one-who-got-modernas-vaccine-trial-developed-severe-covid-19

Continuing the spate of stunning news about COVID-19 vaccines, the biotech company Moderna announced the final results of the 30,000-person efficacy trial for its candidate in a press release today: Only 11 people who received two doses of the vaccine developed COVID-19 symptoms after being infected with the pandemic coronavirus, versus 185 symptomatic cases in a placebo group. That is an efficacy of 94.1%, the company says, far above what many vaccine scientists were expecting just a few weeks ago.

More impressive still, Moderna’s candidate had 100% efficacy against severe disease. There were zero such COVID-19 cases among those vaccinated, but 30 in the placebo group. The company today plans to file a request for emergency use authorization (EUA) for its vaccine with the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA), and is also seeking a similar green light from the European Medicines Agency.

Incredible.