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Corona Virus - How bad is it going to be?

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27 minutes ago, mugtang said:

Congrats Guys, this thread is the longest and most active thread in MWCBoard history.  The number of replies here is nearly double the next one and it has 40k more views than any other thread (sure wish ad rates didn't collapse :rolleyes:).

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13 hours ago, mugtang said:

Congrats Guys, this thread is the longest and most active thread in MWCBoard history.  The number of replies here is nearly double the next one and it has 40k more views than any other thread (sure wish ad rates didn't collapse :rolleyes:).

When and why did ad rates collapse?

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20 minutes ago, NorthWestCowboy said:

When and why did ad rates collapse?

They collapsed with the economy back in March.  They haven’t recovered either. 

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14 hours ago, mugtang said:

Congrats Guys, this thread is the longest and most active thread in MWCBoard history.  The number of replies here is nearly double the next one and it has 40k more views than any other thread (sure wish ad rates didn't collapse :rolleyes:).

So from this I gather the answer to the OP is "Pretty Bad".

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A 25-year old Nevada man contracted COVID for the second time and the reinfection was more severe than the initial one:

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Covid reinfection: Man gets Covid twice and second hit 'more severe'

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46 minutes ago, TheSanDiegan said:

A 25-year old Nevada man contracted COVID for the second time and the reinfection was more severe than the initial one:

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That is not great news from a vaccine perspective.  This may be something we learn to live with.

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28 minutes ago, BYUcougfan said:

That is not great news from a vaccine perspective.  This may be something we learn to live with.

I'm not sure how significant this really is. 4 documented reinfections and only 1 symptomatic out of 32 million cases. With the amount of scrutiny Covid vaccines are getting, I'm not surprised that there are some unexplained illnesses that cause pauses in the study. I don't think they have even determined if the patient was in the placebo arm or vaccine arm.

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46 minutes ago, NMpackalum said:

I'm not sure how significant this really is. 4 documented reinfections and only 1 symptomatic out of 32 million cases. With the amount of scrutiny Covid vaccines are getting, I'm not surprised that there are some unexplained illnesses that cause pauses in the study. I don't think they have even determined if the patient was in the placebo arm or vaccine arm.

5/38,000,000 = .000000013157

Nope. Not significant.

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47 minutes ago, NMpackalum said:

I'm not sure how significant this really is. 4 documented reinfections and only 1 symptomatic out of 32 million cases. With the amount of scrutiny Covid vaccines are getting, I'm not surprised that there are some unexplained illnesses that cause pauses in the study. I don't think they have even determined if the patient was in the placebo arm or vaccine arm.

That's pretty normal for any vaccine trial, isn't it? 

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2 hours ago, TheSanDiegan said:

A 25-year old Nevada man contracted COVID for the second time and the reinfection was more severe than the initial one:

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I'm going to assume that this is UNLV's fault.

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56 minutes ago, NMpackalum said:

I'm not sure how significant this really is. 4 documented reinfections and only 1 symptomatic out of 32 million cases. With the amount of scrutiny Covid vaccines are getting, I'm not surprised that there are some unexplained illnesses that cause pauses in the study. I don't think they have even determined if the patient was in the placebo arm or vaccine arm.

I am definitely not a doctor but I thought the idea of a vaccine was to essentially give you a very minor case of the disease so your body builds immunity.  If you can be re-infected so quickly, I am not sure how anything we develop will be any better than the current flu shots.

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8 minutes ago, NVGiant said:

That's pretty normal for any vaccine trial, isn't it? 

"as I understand it"....pauses and holds are not that unusual. They're trying to check as much as they can.  Which is why they generally arent rushed to market.  But because we're all paying attention, everything is magnified.  And moreso because some unnamed people have a specific timeframe in mind.

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2 minutes ago, BYUcougfan said:

I am definitely not a doctor but I thought the idea of a vaccine was to essentially give you a very minor case of the disease so your body builds immunity.  If you can be re-infected so quickly, I am not sure how anything we develop will be any better than the current flu shots.

I think most people would take 'as good as the flu shot'.  Because that would be pretty good.  A lot of people arent aware that the yearly flu shot is a guess at what strains are going to be active and are manufactured based on that.  The mix isnt always 100%.  regarding Covid, given how rare re-infections have been, I agree with others that it may not be much of a cause for concern.  At this time.

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50 minutes ago, BYUcougfan said:

I am definitely not a doctor but I thought the idea of a vaccine was to essentially give you a very minor case of the disease so your body builds immunity.  If you can be re-infected so quickly, I am not sure how anything we develop will be any better than the current flu shots.

From what I remember reading from early results from certain vacinnes they found they had 10x the anibodies generated from the vaccine versus actually getting the virus. Which would mean the vaccine would last quite a bit longer than getting the virus. Maybe long enough to wipe it out or we may have to get it every year. NBut that was just some preliminary studies and I may be completely wrong about that too.

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1 hour ago, BYUcougfan said:

I am definitely not a doctor but I thought the idea of a vaccine was to essentially give you a very minor case of the disease so your body builds immunity.  If you can be re-infected so quickly, I am not sure how anything we develop will be any better than the current flu shots.

Not really to generate a mild case of the infection. Some vaccines use particles of the virus to generate an immune response to produce antibodies. But there are other mechanisms the body produces that produce some memory as well in addition to antibodies. I'm sure there are many previously covid infected people that have been reexposed and not reinfected even if they have no measurable antibodies. Flu vaccines may only be 50-70% effective in preventing infection but they also decrease severity of the disease if you are infected. Very worthwhile to get.

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1 hour ago, NVGiant said:

That's pretty normal for any vaccine trial, isn't it? 

Hard to say because most vaccine trials aren't this scrutinized and the companies don't usually provide that information if they complete the trial. There are circumstances that vaccines and medicines in general are discontinued due to adverse affects and most people wouldn't even know unless you follow their stock prices.

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