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Corona Virus - How bad is it going to be?

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2 hours ago, Bob said:

So January 1, 2020, if I told you that the USA would have deaths this year that exceeded the previous year by 5% in the coming year, not just anyone, but really really old and really really sick people, would you have said it would be appropriate to shut the country down and cause a Great Depression-like economic contraction and ruin countless lives and rob our children of education and valuable, irreplaceable life experiences and memories all while causing a massive spike in suicides and child and sex abuse and domestic violence?

I can appreciate that take Bob; I'll just leave it at that.

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4 hours ago, Bob said:

So January 1, 2020, if I told you that the USA would have deaths this year that exceeded the previous year by 5% in the coming year, not just anyone, but really really old and really really sick people, would you have said it would be appropriate to shut the country down and cause a Great Depression-like economic contraction and ruin countless lives and rob our children of education and valuable, irreplaceable life experiences and memories all while causing a massive spike in suicides and child and sex abuse and domestic violence?

Interesting take. Except that 5%(if that is what the final number is going to be, I'm not sure) is with all the restrictions in place and the damage to the economy. What would the number had been if without those policies? What number would make it worth it to you? 

Also do you have any numbers on the spike in suicides and domestic violence. I have not seen any statistics on it and wonder how big of a spike we are talking about.

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32 minutes ago, tspoke said:

Interesting take. Except that 5%(if that is what the final number is going to be, I'm not sure) is with all the restrictions in place and the damage to the economy. What would the number had been if without those policies? What number would make it worth it to you? 

Also do you have any numbers on the spike in suicides and domestic violence. I have not seen any statistics on it and wonder how big of a spike we are talking about.

It's really way too soon to say. Accurate stats won't be available for at least 6 more months.

Suicide rates have been increasing since 1999. About 1%/year between 1999 and 2006, and about 2%/year since then. :(

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db362.htm

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33 minutes ago, tspoke said:

Interesting take. Except that 5%(if that is what the final number is going to be, I'm not sure) is with all the restrictions in place and the damage to the economy. What would the number had been if without those policies? What number would make it worth it to you? 

Also do you have any numbers on the spike in suicides and domestic violence. I have not seen any statistics on it and wonder how big of a spike we are talking about.

It's too early to get good numbers but it's a very big concern in the medical commmunity. JAMA reported the highest rate of suicides this year since 1941. Child abuse, anxiety and depression not to mention opioid abuse has risen dramatically and mainly go untreated with the restrictions on hospital and office visits. Now that the restrictions have relaxed somewhat, people are still not going in until there is a crisis. I know I've referred more people than I ever have for behavioral health issues. It's just speculation, but some "experts" are saying 150k deaths in the UK from those causes fwiw. Seems awfully high but who knows.

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13 minutes ago, renoskier said:

It's really way too soon to say. Accurate stats won't be available for at least 6 more months.

Suicide rates have been increasing since 1999. About 1%/year between 1999 and 2006, and about 2%/year since then. :(

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db362.htm

I wouldn't doubt if suicides go up more than usual.  Perhaps DV too.  Not sure about divorce, but I think some families will come out stronger.

But prepare for separation anxiety for the pets.  They are probably quite happy right now though.  Mine sure are.  

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3 minutes ago, East Coast Aztec said:

I wouldn't doubt if suicides go up more than usual.  Perhaps DV too.  Not sure about divorce, but I think some families will come out stronger.

But prepare for separation anxiety for the pets.  They are probably quite happy right now though.  Mine sure are.  

Since quarantine started I know at least two couples who are now in marriage counseling and another actively seeking a divorce attorney. At least no children are involved, but the pandemic forced their demons out into the open. 

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1 minute ago, ridgeview2 said:

Since quarantine started I know at least two couples who are now in marriage counseling and another actively seeking a divorce attorney. At least no children are involved, but the pandemic forced their demons out into the open. 

Gotta be frank, is that specific thing bad?  Not the virus or anything related to that, but getting that stuff out there, so maybe we don't string out relationships that are toxic?  Conversely, I know people who are doing really well, since they now eat at the dinner table, activities in the house, go camping.  So perhaps some positive with the negative.  But I am a glass half full kinda guy.

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3 minutes ago, East Coast Aztec said:

Gotta be frank, is that specific thing bad?  Not the virus or anything related to that, but getting that stuff out there, so maybe we don't string out relationships that are toxic?  Conversely, I know people who are doing really well, since they now eat at the dinner table, activities in the house, go camping.  So perhaps some positive with the negative.  But I am a glass half full kinda guy.

I can agree with that. I was just mentioning that since the pandemic started I've seen a few couples go through marriage turmoil and I'm with you that I think it's good to get it out now rather that suffer through years of anger if there was no pandemic. I've taught a lot of children who came from divorced homes and only a few have been able to make it work. 

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My wife and I are both public school teachers who are now in a 14 day quarantine.  We were exposed by another teacher that was purely accidental.  We will be tested this week sometime with another 3-5 days to wait on results. It suck!  After 23 years of teaching I miss my students and being with my people!  
 

I’m hoping we are negative and can get back to school sooner rather than later.  Also, my youngest is a senior and we have to miss his Senior night this week because of this.  Heartbreaking for his mom and I

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2 hours ago, Wyoguns said:

My wife and I are both public school teachers who are now in a 14 day quarantine.  We were exposed by another teacher that was purely accidental.  We will be tested this week sometime with another 3-5 days to wait on results. It suck!  After 23 years of teaching I miss my students and being with my people!  
 

I’m hoping we are negative and can get back to school sooner rather than later.  Also, my youngest is a senior and we have to miss his Senior night this week because of this.  Heartbreaking for his mom and I

I ask these following questions in complete seriousness,  something I've been thinking about and you may be able to give some insight:

1. Were you,your wife and the other teacher wearing masks?

2. Were either of you within 6ft of the other teacher for more than 10 minutes?

3. How did the determination that the other was 'infected' come about and how were you notified?

Edit: I ask because of a recent work experience. ..that I'll expound on after your answers. Thanks in advance!

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We were not wearing masks at the time but we were at least 6 feet apart.

Je felt poorly the next day and went in and tested positive....just got a text from him and he is running a 102.2 temperature right now

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2 minutes ago, Wyoguns said:

We were not wearing masks at the time but we were at least 6 feet apart.

Je felt poorly the next day and went in and tested positive....just got a text from him and he is running a 102.2 temperature right now

Like the flu or the cold?did they test for this?or we just believe it's covid-19?

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1 minute ago, Blue voodoo said:

Thought it took more then a day to test positive?seems too me your full of shit. Just sayin

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2 minutes ago, Blue voodoo said:

Thought it took more then a day to test positive?seems too me your full of shit. Just sayin

It was about a 6 hour turn around from test to results.  I could give two shits if you believe me or not you clown.  lol 

 

There are other tests...I’m getting tested tomorrow... that take 2-3 days

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