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Excellent article on the colossal failure of the Trump administration:

https://dnyuz.com/2020/07/18/inside-trumps-failure-the-rush-to-abandon-leadership-role-on-the-virus/

Well worth five minutes of your time to read. @Bob, I know you think the virus is a hoax but even you might be able to understand how your God is a horrific “leader” under crisis. 

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Kern County is back on the watch list for counties that will be shut down again after having reported 650 cases yesterday and 700 cases today, but our health experts said that these numbers were expected as they were backlogged results from the last 2 weeks. So who knows how many of these confirmed cases are now recovered cases. :shrug:

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11 hours ago, 415hawaiiboy said:

I’m grappling with this as I’m likely sending my kids to school / daycare this fall.

Over the past year, I read a book called Being Mortal, written by a doctor who talks about how medicine tries to save lives but misses on minimizing suffering.  
 

Anyways, of all the stories in the book, the one thing I remember the most is (warning this sucks) that the reason why people seem to get better and then die pretty suddenly is because our bodies are compensating for so many things that cumulatively goes wrong and then it reaches a limit and that’s it.  The analogy is like an old car.
 

Kind of flies in the face of having hope, recovery (only temporarily) and the inevitable.  Many people die this way and usually when they are older.
 

The point is multi-organ damage (blood vessels, lungs, and other shit), long term, might not kill you, but how much does that register on the cumulative scale?  
 

The other questions are: if you knew a vaccine would come out in 6 months, would you hold out longer?  12 months?  What if you don’t know if or when a vaccine would come out, would that change your decision?  And if your loved one gets sick, would that change your position?

 

Again, I think many kinds of illnesses and damage can happen in everyday life (chronic disease, to too many hits on the head, to second hand smoke, to parasites and carcinogens) so it’s not just COVID and we have to weigh the cost/benefits of living life.  But I look a bit differently now about the notion what doesn’t kill you is harmless.  
 

Sorry Debbie Downer stuff.  Usually I’m more positive.  Try to be safe and wear a mask and take as much precaution.  People already take risks for their jobs and other priorities which I respect.  Just everyone be smart and do your part.

There are a number of articles about numerous countries that have their kids back in school. Here’s a pretty good one. The younger kids K-6 appear to do better which is inline with current statistics on age groups most susceptible to the virus. 
 

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/07/school-openings-across-globe-suggest-ways-keep-coronavirus-bay-despite-outbreaks

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57 minutes ago, ridgeview2 said:

Picture taken today from Pismo Beach along the central coast here in Cali. 

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I'm sure some were very disappointed.

Splash Cafe in Pismo had to close. Reports are they planned to close for about a week to sanitize and test the other employees. One of the employees tested positive.

 

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1 hour ago, ridgeview2 said:

Picture taken today from Pismo Beach along the central coast here in Cali. 

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Dude, you live in Pismo? Lived in Arroyo Grande and Shell Beach back in the late 80's. Loved Pismo, Avila Beach and the dunes. Met the best three week stand of my life at Harrys.:Clapping:

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8 minutes ago, DestinFlPackfan said:

Dude, you live in Pismo? Lived in Arroyo Grande and Shell Beach back in the late 80's. Loved Pismo, Avila Beach and the dunes. Met the best three week stand of my life at Harrys.:Clapping:

Nah, I live in Bakersfield but Pismo is considered my second home like most valley residents. 

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8 minutes ago, Blue voodoo said:

You probably in your car with a mask on.lol

Nope, not even my photo. This was taken by my neighbor today who drove over with his wife. 

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5 minutes ago, ridgeview2 said:

Nah, I live in Bakersfield but Pismo is considered my second home like most valley residents. 

I met a great girl who was staying at PCV ( sure you know the place) when I left Pismo , I stopped at her place in Bakersfield on my way back to Oklahoma. Good people who live in Bakersfield. 

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 UK researchers a few days ago released a new study.

They believe there may be 6 clusters of symptoms correlated to 6 different "types" of COVID-19 cases and the impacts.

Symptom clusters 4, 5, and 6 were more likely to require hospitalization or ventilation.

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All people reporting symptoms experienced headache and loss of smell, with varying combinations of additional symptoms at various times. Some of these, such as confusion, abdominal pain and shortness of breath, are not widely known as COVID-19 symptoms, yet are hallmarks of the most severe forms of the disease.

The six clusters are as follows:

  1. (‘flu-like’ with no fever): Headache, loss of smell, muscle pains, cough, sore throat, chest pain, no fever.
  2. (‘flu-like’ with fever): Headache, loss of smell, cough, sore throat, hoarseness, fever, loss of appetite.
  3. (gastrointestinal): Headache, loss of smell, loss of appetite, diarrhea, sore throat, chest pain, no cough.
  4. (severe level one, fatigue): Headache, loss of smell, cough, fever, hoarseness, chest pain, fatigue.
  5. (severe level two, confusion): Headache, loss of smell, loss of appetite, cough, fever, hoarseness, sore throat, chest pain, fatigue, confusion, muscle pain.
  6. (severe level three, abdominal and respiratory): Headache, loss of smell, loss of appetite, cough, fever, hoarseness, sore throat, chest pain, fatigue, confusion, muscle pain, shortness of breath, diarrhea, abdominal pain.

Next, the team investigated whether people experiencing particular symptom clusters were more likely to require breathing support in the form of ventilation or additional oxygen.

They discovered that only 1.5% of people with cluster 1, 4.4% of people with cluster 2 and 3.3% of people with cluster 3 COVID-19 required breathing support. These figures were 8.6%, 9.9% and 19.8% for clusters 4,5 and 6 respectively. Furthermore, nearly half of the patients in cluster 6 ended up in hospital, compared with just 16% of those in cluster 1.

Broadly, people with cluster 4,5 or 6 COVID-19 symptoms tended to be older and frailer, and were more likely to be overweight and have pre-existing conditions such as diabetes or lung disease than those with type 1,2 or 3.

https://www.kcl.ac.uk/news/six-distinct-types-of-covid-19-identified

Paper is at:

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.06.12.20129056v1

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9 hours ago, FresnoFacts said:

 UK researchers a few days ago released a new study.

They believe there may be 6 clusters of symptoms correlated to 6 different "types" of COVID-19 cases and the impacts.

Symptom clusters 4, 5, and 6 were more likely to require hospitalization or ventilation.

Paper is at:

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.06.12.20129056v1

Ever since I heard about people losing their sense of taste and smell, every morning when I wake up I take a deep breath to make sure I can smell the coffee on auto brew in the kitchen. 

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13 hours ago, DestinFlPackfan said:

I met a great girl who was staying at PCV ( sure you know the place) when I left Pismo , I stopped at her place in Bakersfield on my way back to Oklahoma. Good people who live in Bakersfield. 

I definitely know of PCV, but I never stay there. Not my kind of "camping" lol. I always stayed at North Beach or Oceano. 

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8 minutes ago, FresnoFacts said:

The new reality show starts Tuesday.

 

I stopped watching season 1, plot got repetitive. But this is probably going to be the most entertaining season so far, I might have to start watching again.

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