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4 hours ago, NVGiant said:

I think there is a lot of that, and it could be the most significant driver. I think there is a good helping of denial, too. But a whole lot of carelessness.

In Central Oregon, where I live, we have been getting inundated with travelers. Bumper to bumper traffic heading into town every weekend and the occupancy rates of many of our hotels and resorts are actually up from last year, with many running at 99% since the end of May. And until the governor mandated wearing masks, you’d rarely see one being worn in public unless it was a place like Costco that had a mask policy in place. Here, it’s not really a political thing, though like everywhere there is some of that. Just people fleeing to the supposed open spaces of Central Oregon and not putting any thought to it (because apparently you can’t catch Covid or infect others on vacation). Come to Bend on a Saturday this summer and you’d think nothing was happening at all.

Weirdly, our numbers have remained relatively low, albeit beginning to move up significantly. I have to assume that actually encourages travel. But our hospital is close to capacity because of visitors getting sick while here, and those don’t count in our county tally, apparently.

Read up on Corpus Christi/Nueces County. They had low numbers.

Then people in Houston, Dallas, San Antonio, etc. started thinking Corpus Christi is a safe area to visit the beach.

Now Corpus Christi has had a surge with hospital's filling. Texas has sent extra hospital staff and supplies. The Corpus Christi mayor (a Republican) is now saying "“I never thought in my wildest dreams that I’d be telling tourists, ‘Don’t come to our beaches,’”"

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/11/us/coronavirus-texas-corpus-christi.html

https://www.ccbiznews.com/news/state-responds-quickly-to-corpus-christi-covid-surge

 

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The number one issue this nation faces, in my opinion, is the tribalism and divisiveness.  We can't solve anything until we improve on that front.  

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49 minutes ago, FresnoFacts said:

Read up on Corpus Christi/Nueces County. They had low numbers.

Then people in Houston, Dallas, San Antonio, etc. started thinking Corpus Christi is a safe area to visit the beach.

Now Corpus Christi has had a surge with hospital's filling. Texas has sent extra hospital staff and supplies. The Corpus Christi mayor (a Republican) is now saying "“I never thought in my wildest dreams that I’d be telling tourists, ‘Don’t come to our beaches,’”"

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/11/us/coronavirus-texas-corpus-christi.html

https://www.ccbiznews.com/news/state-responds-quickly-to-corpus-christi-covid-surge

 

This is a glimpse into Bend’s future, unfortunately. And it’s going to happen right when schools are about to start.

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47 minutes ago, Del Scorcho said:

why do you think people are going to get tested? 90% of people aren't simply going to be tested for fun or because its something to do. 

"Hey, lets skip the beach today and go wait in line for 4 hours. Its making my nipples hard just thinking about it." 

They are being tested because have symptoms and don't feel well or have suspected they were exposed.  It would be nice if we did mass testing like some countries, but instead we are pulling back on testing.

Simply look at the % of positive test results.

All I’m saying is we didn’t have the resources for tests 3 months ago that we do now. Had New York been able to test as much as Florida now I doubt they’d have kept a 60% positivity rate like they had, and I don’t believe for a second that their peak new number of new cases would’ve been anywhere close to only 12,000.  It has to have been much higher.

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2 minutes ago, thelawlorfaithful said:

All I’m saying is we didn’t have the resources for tests 3 months ago that we do now. Had New York been able to test as much as Florida now I doubt they’d have kept a 60% positivity rate like they had, and I don’t believe for a second that their peak new number of new cases would’ve been anywhere close to only 12,000.  It has to have been much higher.

fair enough

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Anybody remember that article about how the protests near Seattle were not spreading COVID-19?  Yeah, turns out the virus, sadly is not anti-racist.

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California Governor Gavin Newsom just rolled back the state reopening.

In all counties, he ordered a closure of bars, movie theaters, indoor services such as dining and wine tasting, etc.

Then for 30 counties currently experiencing large outbreaks, he also has ordered the closure of churches, gyms, hair and nail salons and barber shops, and indoor malls.

The 30 counties with larger closures are: Colusa, Contra Costa, Fresno, Glenn, Imperial, Kern, Kings, Los Angeles, Madera, Marin, Merced, Monterey, Napa, Orange, Placer, Riverside, Sacramento, San Benito, San Bernardino, San Diego, San Joaquin, Santa Barbara, Solano, Sonoma, Stanislaus, Sutter, Tulare, Yolo, Yuba, and Ventura.

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-07-13/newsom-california-county-rollback-reopening-coronavirus

 

 

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19 minutes ago, FresnoFacts said:

California Governor Gavin Newsom just rolled back the state reopening.

In all counties, he ordered a closure of bars, movie theaters, indoor services such as dining and wine tasting, etc.

Then for 30 counties currently experiencing large outbreaks, he also has ordered the closure of churches, gyms, hair and nail salons and barber shops, and indoor malls.

The 30 counties with larger closures are: Colusa, Contra Costa, Fresno, Glenn, Imperial, Kern, Kings, Los Angeles, Madera, Marin, Merced, Monterey, Napa, Orange, Placer, Riverside, Sacramento, San Benito, San Bernardino, San Diego, San Joaquin, Santa Barbara, Solano, Sonoma, Stanislaus, Sutter, Tulare, Yolo, Yuba, and Ventura.

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-07-13/newsom-california-county-rollback-reopening-coronavirus

 

 

I wonder if Newsom's winery will still be able to remain open as it has been.

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6 minutes ago, Bob said:

I wonder if Newsom's winery will still be able to remain open as it has been.

Plumpjack (Newsom's) is in Napa County. Napa county wineries were open when his was open. It was the wineries in 19 other counties such as Fresno County that were closed previously when some made a political issue of that. 

He is now closing down all indoor wine tasting in the state including Napa County. Some wineries will be doing outdoor tasting though.

 

 

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I've had several come to me in the past few days letting me know that they'll be either looking for something cheaper or moving back in with parents due to financial hardship. They just can't find work. I have a feeling we haven't seen anything yet in terms of financial suffering.

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18 minutes ago, Bob said:

I've had several come to me in the past few days letting me know that they'll be either looking for something cheaper or moving back in with parents due to financial hardship. They just can't find work. I have a feeling we haven't seen anything yet in terms of financial suffering.

Don’t worry, if the senate republicans get their wish and the extra $600 for unemployment is allowed to end and the second stimulus check is heavily means tested, we will see more financial suffering soon enough.

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1 hour ago, halfmanhalfbronco said:

Anybody remember that article about how the protests near Seattle were not spreading COVID-19?  Yeah, turns out the virus, sadly is not anti-racist.

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Any contact tracing done?

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3 minutes ago, toonkee said:

Any contact tracing done?

Not have been made privy to the public.  I am sure reopening played a large role in the case surge.

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8 hours ago, sactowndog said:

Spend time in the Blue Bay Area or the Red valley and you see people wearing masks in Bay and not in the valley.   And yes people of all stripes are irresponsible but it’s flamed by a President who says the CDC and Doctors are lying and the dumb +++++s who believe him.

In Placer we have morons not wearing masks sitting at booths to impeach Newsom.  

I am surprised I have not read about Fresno's and Placerville's hospitals being overrun.  It must be bad if they are responsible for the spike given the huge populations in Los Angeles, San Diego, San Francisco, San Jose, and the like.

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3 hours ago, FresnoFacts said:

California Governor Gavin Newsom just rolled back the state reopening.

In all counties, he ordered a closure of bars, movie theaters, indoor services such as dining and wine tasting, etc.

Then for 30 counties currently experiencing large outbreaks, he also has ordered the closure of churches, gyms, hair and nail salons and barber shops, and indoor malls.

The 30 counties with larger closures are: Colusa, Contra Costa, Fresno, Glenn, Imperial, Kern, Kings, Los Angeles, Madera, Marin, Merced, Monterey, Napa, Orange, Placer, Riverside, Sacramento, San Benito, San Bernardino, San Diego, San Joaquin, Santa Barbara, Solano, Sonoma, Stanislaus, Sutter, Tulare, Yolo, Yuba, and Ventura.

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-07-13/newsom-california-county-rollback-reopening-coronavirus

 

 

Initially Kern County was off the list, but our own county officials stated that we will probably fail the states monitoring metrics within the next few days and will be put back on the list. 

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33 minutes ago, BYUcougfan said:

I am surprised I have not read about Fresno's and Placerville's hospitals being overrun.  It must be bad if they are responsible for the spike given the huge populations in Los Angeles, San Diego, San Francisco, San Jose, and the like.

Dude CA has plenty of capacity.

I live hear and listen to people talk about masks.   My super Trumper friend has had 4 Bypasses and is overweight.  He also has a grandson getting chemo for luekemia.  We went to a party with 25 people none of whom were wearing masks.    

Someone already posted the survey on mask use.

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3 hours ago, halfmanhalfbronco said:

Anybody remember that article about how the protests near Seattle were not spreading COVID-19?  Yeah, turns out the virus, sadly is not anti-racist.

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Dude, Washington had maybe 1000 daily cases.  It is 1/3 the population size of Florida.  If it had the same population of Florida it would have 3,000 daily cases.  Florida has 15K daily cases!  This isn't a really great comparison.

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4 hours ago, toonkee said:

The number one issue this nation faces, in my opinion, is the tribalism and divisiveness.  We can't solve anything until we improve on that front.  

How many of you wear a mask when you step out your front door? 

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3 hours ago, FresnoFacts said:

California Governor Gavin Newsom just rolled back the state reopening.

In all counties, he ordered a closure of bars, movie theaters, indoor services such as dining and wine tasting, etc.

Then for 30 counties currently experiencing large outbreaks, he also has ordered the closure of churches, gyms, hair and nail salons and barber shops, and indoor malls.

The 30 counties with larger closures are: Colusa, Contra Costa, Fresno, Glenn, Imperial, Kern, Kings, Los Angeles, Madera, Marin, Merced, Monterey, Napa, Orange, Placer, Riverside, Sacramento, San Benito, San Bernardino, San Diego, San Joaquin, Santa Barbara, Solano, Sonoma, Stanislaus, Sutter, Tulare, Yolo, Yuba, and Ventura.

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-07-13/newsom-california-county-rollback-reopening-coronavirus

 

 

Actual press conference video of the announcement

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