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22 minutes ago, RSF said:

Texas hits new highs in new cases and hospitalizations.

 

 

 

 

I dont have any pics.  Just close your eyes and picture a crowded table at a bbq joint or something...

Here we go. I think this is appropriate art for the story:

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26 minutes ago, RSF said:

Texas hits new highs in new cases and hospitalizations.

 

 

 

 

I dont have any pics.  Just close your eyes and picture a crowded table at a bbq joint or something...

They are nowhere near running out of hospital space for sick people.. and deaths remain in check. This is just fear porn.

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21 minutes ago, Bob said:

They are nowhere near running out of hospital space for sick people.. and deaths remain in check. This is just fear porn.

And if they do run out of hospital space, what will you say then?

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7 minutes ago, CV147 said:

And if they do run out of hospital space, what will you say then?

Probably blame the protests.

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6 minutes ago, CV147 said:

And if they do run out of hospital space, what will you say then?

To be fair, i doubt that occurs.

 

Of course, given the sheer size of the state, a lot of those beds are nowhere near the places the cases are occuring.

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2 hours ago, CV147 said:

And if they do run out of hospital space, what will you say then?

they won't. If they do it'll be really, really old sick people whose time it is to pass on. Just like most people that have died from this virus.

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1 hour ago, Bob said:

they won't. If they do it'll be really, really old sick people whose time it is to pass on. Just like most people that have died from this virus.

Will they turn them into crackers?

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1 hour ago, Bob said:

they won't. If they do it'll be really, really old sick people whose time it is to pass on. Just like most people that have died from this virus.

I get it, these are sick, old people who were going to die in the next few years anyway. The problem is when it’s accelerated like this and they all die at once, our healthcare infrastructure can’t handle it. Lockdowns were supposed to give our system more time to prepare for the increased volume of hospitalized/ICU patients. If there was no lockdown the entire country would have looked like NYC all at the same time. High population areas that didn’t use the time to prepare are going to look like Italy/Spain/NYC. If high population areas run out of hospital beds because the old, sick people are taking them all up, what happens to the young healthy people who get into a car accident and can’t be treated quickly because there is nowhere to treat them? 
 

We’re likely about to see how it plays out in Arizona because they are at about 80% capacity right now. 
 

We need to be having these conversations because we can’t just lock everyone in their houses, but we also can’t do nothing. You seem like you don’t want to move off the do nothing hill no matter the fatality rate. Would it make a difference if the sick, old people start piling up and die in the waiting rooms or at home because the beds were already taken? How close to the 2 million deaths prediction do we need to get before you come off your hill and meet anyone half way? Or is it ok because they were going to die anyway, so it might as well be now?

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16 minutes ago, Mad_Hatter said:

I get it, these are sick, old people who were going to die in the next few years anyway. The problem is when it’s accelerated like this and they all die at once, our healthcare infrastructure can’t handle it. Lockdowns were supposed to give our system more time to prepare for the increased volume of hospitalized/ICU patients. If there was no lockdown the entire country would have looked like NYC all at the same time. High population areas that didn’t use the time to prepare are going to look like Italy/Spain/NYC. If high population areas run out of hospital beds because the old, sick people are taking them all up, what happens to the young healthy people who get into a car accident and can’t be treated quickly because there is nowhere to treat them? 
 

We’re likely about to see how it plays out in Arizona because they are at about 80% capacity right now. 
 

We need to be having these conversations because we can’t just lock everyone in their houses, but we also can’t do nothing. You seem like you don’t want to move off the do nothing hill no matter the fatality rate. Would it make a difference if the sick, old people start piling up and die in the waiting rooms or at home because the beds were already taken? How close to the 2 million deaths prediction do we need to get before you come off your hill and meet anyone half way? Or is it ok because they were going to die anyway, so it might as well be now?

The Arizona situation will be telling for sure.

We've seen a huge amount of positive cases here in Florida over the past few days. ..check any news feed. But, according to our experts,  the hospitalization is very low..meaning we have lots of empty beds.

Covid hasn't gone away despite our clicking of heels and wishing. 

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14 hours ago, Mad_Hatter said:

 

We need to be having these conversations because we can’t just lock everyone in their houses, but we also can’t do nothing. You seem like you don’t want to move off the do nothing hill no matter the fatality rate. Would it make a difference if the sick, old people start piling up and die in the waiting rooms or at home because the beds were already taken? How close to the 2 million deaths prediction do we need to get before you come off your hill and meet anyone half way? Or is it ok because they were going to die anyway, so it might as well be now?

If this were children dying, or even working age people, then I would be locked up in my house with my family as we speak. The age and health of the people dying makes all the difference. It's not a particularly dangerous virus if you are under 80 and are somewhat healthy. There is only so much you can do for an extremely old and/or extremely sick person. Stopping the world like we did was not justified.

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8 minutes ago, pokerider said:

now I see where you get your fake news.

Dude. I made that as a joke...  there are websites dedicated to making fake tweets. 

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1 hour ago, soupslam1 said:

Anyone on here think people are going to return to sheltering again? Not going to happen. It’s going to be herd immunity or bust. 

I doubt we will see widespread shutdowns and sheltering again.

My guess is that we will see smaller closures of individual cities/counties when hot spots occur. That is how the old polio outbreaks were handled.

For example, in 1952 the University of North Carolina had a small polio outbreak on campus. The school cancelled on-campus events including home football games against NC State and Georgia, and requested students to stay sheltered on campus.

In 1946, San Antonio Texas closed its schools during a polio outbreak.

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Wythe County VA was a polio hot spot in 1950. Churches, stores, schools and theaters were closed in the county. This sign was posted at the border of Wythe County during the 1950 polio outbreak to warn travelers. Supposedly some people kept their car windows rolled up while passing thru the county to protect themselves.

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