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Corona Virus - How bad is it going to be?

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57 minutes ago, soupslam1 said:

How were you able to change your reply without the edit stamp showing? Do you have mod access?

Any way, I empathize with grocery/retail store workers. I am sure while they are grateful to be working, it must be excruciating to have to go to work if your boss or corporate office not practicing best support for its front-line workers. As I said in the original reply, I hope local PH departments are monitoring stores. We have to keep essential grocery/retail staffs healthy and safe.

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50 minutes ago, DoubleBlueGold said:

How were you able to change your reply without the edit stamp showing? Do you have mod access?

Any way, I empathize with grocery/retail store workers. I am sure while they are grateful to be working, it must be excruciating to have to go to work if your boss or corporate office not practicing best support for its front-line workers. As I said in the original reply, I hope local PH departments are monitoring stores. We have to keep essential grocery/retail staffs healthy and safe.

I agree with @DoubleBlueGold, I hope to God that Big Brother is monitoring things.  Those capitalist bastards in management might take advantage.

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42 minutes ago, Headbutt said:

I agree with @DoubleBlueGold, I hope to God that Big Brother is monitoring things.  Those capitalist bastards in management might take advantage.

Historically, "Big Brother" has had to protect workers from "those capitalist bastards in management".

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12 minutes ago, DoubleBlueGold said:

Historically, "Big Brother" has had to protect workers from "those capitalist bastards in management".

Good point comrade.

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1 minute ago, Headbutt said:

Good point comrade.

Wrong big brother.

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12 hours ago, mugtang said:

That’s stupid. We’ll take them. We reuse our n95s after running them through the UV sterilizer. As far as the anti hydroxy chloroquine sentiment among some, I’d venture to guess that the vast majority of doctors would take it for them and their families.

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8210951/Beijing-authorities-hushed-findings-Chinese-scientist.html

  • Shi Zhengli, a virologist known as China's 'Bat Woman', sequenced the genes of the novel coronavirus in three days but her findings were supressed  
  • Their findings showed it was similar to SARS, a respiratory disease that sparked an epidemic in 33 countries after emerging from China in 2002
  • Yanyi Wang, director of the Wuhan Institute of Virology, sent an email to staff and key officials ordering them not to disclose information on the disease
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40 minutes ago, sactowndog said:

Interesting article on Doctors and wages.   The private hospitals which have to show a quarterly profit are struggling.   The performance of these institutions in a pandemic is sure to add fire to the healthcare debate.  
 

https://www.foxnews.com/us/doctors-coronavirus-health-pay-cuts

Wasn't it Reagan that allowed for hospital to be profitable at all?   Seem to remember they were all non profit before that.

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5 minutes ago, BSUTOP25 said:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8210951/Beijing-authorities-hushed-findings-Chinese-scientist.html

  • Shi Zhengli, a virologist known as China's 'Bat Woman', sequenced the genes of the novel coronavirus in three days but her findings were supressed  
  • Their findings showed it was similar to SARS, a respiratory disease that sparked an epidemic in 33 countries after emerging from China in 2002
  • Yanyi Wang, director of the Wuhan Institute of Virology, sent an email to staff and key officials ordering them not to disclose information on the disease

Which is weird since her finding in no way indicated a Chinese designed virus

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44 minutes ago, sactowndog said:

Interesting article on Doctors and wages.   The private hospitals which have to show a quarterly profit are struggling.   The performance of these institutions in a pandemic is sure to add fire to the healthcare debate.  
 

https://www.foxnews.com/us/doctors-coronavirus-health-pay-cuts

That's because surgeries and procedures have been suspended in many places and cases.

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1 hour ago, NMpackalum said:

That’s stupid. We’ll take them. We reuse our n95s after running them through the UV sterilizer. As far as the anti hydroxy chloroquine sentiment among some, I’d venture to guess that the vast majority of doctors would take it for them and their families.

The majority of ID specialists or immunologists I speak with or read about disagree with hydroxychloroquine as a therapy right now. I feel the only ones that would take it without more evidence are ones in other scopes of practices like family practice or dermatologists.

I'm just glad the Colorado BOP put out strict guidelines on its use to prevent these doctors from writing these rxs for themselves and their families.

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Just now, Stealthlobo said:

The majority of ID specialists or immunologists I speak with or read about disagree with hydroxychloroquine as a therapy right now. I feel the only ones that would take it without more evidence are ones in other scopes of practices like family practice or dermatologists.

I'm just glad the Colorado BOP put out strict guidelines on its use to prevent these doctors from writing these rxs for themselves and their families.

I agree that there should be restrictions on the personal prescriptions. Sure you read the non clinical people discuss the academic reasoning. For most doctors, if something has proven relative safety and you're willing to prescribe for malaria or lupus, then you're willing to prescribe for Covid. That said, most frontline doctors  that have used it say don't expect miracles. Works for some at certain stages of infection and not so good for others.

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14 hours ago, thelawlorfaithful said:

They weren’t dying all at once Bob because they weren’t getting it all at once. Hospitals weren’t in danger to be overrun and focused entirely on the flu. If this thing gets out of control you don’t have a healthcare system, period. There is simply no place to treat anyone with any other ailment than coronavirus, and even if we had spare hospitals all over the place, there aren’t enough trained healthcare workers to fill them.

Hospitals are not being overwhelmed. In fact the opposite is happening. Hospitals are laying off people right and left and are in dire financial straights. I thought the point of the lockdowns was not to wait out the virus, but to not overwhelm the hospitals. 

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