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14 minutes ago, retrofade said:

tHe MoDeLs WeRe LiBeRaL pLoTs To DaMaGe TrUmP!

- bOb

Is it difficult to type like that? You fat +++++. More typical Doom-ocrat behavior where they see the worst in everyone and everything. It's got to be exhausting to be you. I've paid attention to models of extremely complicated things with a tremendous amount of variables (global warming) to know that the so called experts usually incorrect, usually tremendously, always in favor of terrible doom and destruction. I mean, hell, the modelers had a PERFECT example to help them develop their models - the cruise ships, and they still +++++ed it up by factors of ten or more. Tremendous failure by the modelers and people like you and The san diegan for being gullible sheep and lapping it up and endless fear mongering. It's always some catastrophe for people like you.   

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1 minute ago, Bob said:

Is it difficult to type like that? You fat +++++. More typical Doom-ocrat behavior where they see the worst in everyone and everything. It's got to be exhausting to be you. I've paid attention to models of extremely complicated things with a tremendous amount of variables (global warming) to know that the so called experts usually incorrect, usually tremendously, always in favor of terrible doom and destruction. I mean, hell, the modelers had a PERFECT example to help them develop their models - the cruise ships, and they still +++++ed it up by factors of ten or more. Tremendous failure by the modelers and people like you and The san diegan for being gullible sheep and lapping it up and endless fear mongering. It's always some catastrophe for people like you.   

It says a lot about the veracity of your arguments when you have to resort to petulant personal attacks about the physical appearance of somebody that you've never actually met. Go back to listening to Rush, I'm sure he'll fill you with some more hate towards others to make you feel better about yourself. 

@TheSanDiegan, do you want to take the rest of this one? I almost feel bad for beating the shit out of him so much. Plus, you're the actual mathematician around here. 

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7 minutes ago, retrofade said:

It says a lot about the veracity of your arguments when you have to resort to petulant personal attacks about the physical appearance of somebody that you've never actually met. Go back to listening to Rush, I'm sure he'll fill you with some more hate towards others to make you feel better about yourself. 

@TheSanDiegan, do you want to take the rest of this one? I almost feel bad for beating the shit out of him so much. Plus, you're the actual mathematician around here. 

lol. How about you respond with a meme again, you loser. You've responded to none of the points I've made about the the models and your vast overreaction. You've got nothing.

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Cancelling all "elective" surgeries nationwide may not be the greatest idea in the world.

Cleveland-based St. Vincent Charity Medical Center has furloughed about 70 employees amid the COVID-19 pandemic, according to local news station Fox 8. 

The hospital, complying with an order from Ohio, has canceled elective surgeries, which generate about half of St. Vincent's revenue, according to the report. 

Affected employees include nurses, surgical assistants, clerical and other support staff, according to St. Vincent 'sPresident and CEO Janice Murph

https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/finance/cleveland-hospital-furloughs-70-staffers.html

Fyi, it asks for your email but there isn't a paywall.

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2 minutes ago, Bob said:

lol. How about you respond with a meme again, you loser. You've responded to none of the points I've made about the the models and your vast overreaction. You've got nothing.

I actually responded with facts on how these things work. I highly recommend that you check out that statistics course I linked to you yesterday. You might learn a little bit instead of continuing to remain willfully ignorant.

 

 

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17 minutes ago, CPslograd said:

Cancelling all "elective" surgeries nationwide may not be the greatest idea in the world.

Cleveland-based St. Vincent Charity Medical Center has furloughed about 70 employees amid the COVID-19 pandemic, according to local news station Fox 8. 

The hospital, complying with an order from Ohio, has canceled elective surgeries, which generate about half of St. Vincent's revenue, according to the report. 

Affected employees include nurses, surgical assistants, clerical and other support staff, according to St. Vincent 'sPresident and CEO Janice Murph

https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/finance/cleveland-hospital-furloughs-70-staffers.html

Fyi, it asks for your email but there isn't a paywall.

Why do they want my grandma to die?

#AloneTogether

#DoYourPart

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7 hours ago, soupslam1 said:

Revised models are reporting significantly less deaths and hospitalizations than previously projected. On the drug front there is also encouraging news. They are finding hydroxychloroquine combined with zinc has been successful treating severe cases of the virus and it’s being used more often. 

Boston Medical Center is going to start clinical trials using nitrous oxide which has been used on babies to assist in breathing. They seem pretty excited it will help in early treatment for the Cvirus. Good news all around. Now we need a vaccine developed as early as possible. 

The Chinese are in clinical trials using Viagra.

Viagra increases nitric oxide in the blood.

Those little blue pills might be a miracle drug in more than one way. :Clapping:

https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04304313?term=sildenafil&cond=COVID-19&draw=2&rank=1

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13 minutes ago, FresnoFacts said:

The Chinese are in clinical trials using Viagra.

Viagra increases nitric oxide in the blood.

Those little blue pills might be a miracle drug in more than one way. :Clapping:

https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04304313?term=sildenafil&cond=COVID-19&draw=2&rank=1

I read nitric oxide has been thought to be an effective treatment or therapeutic.  L-Arginine supplements help increase this too.  If I get it I’m going to start doubling down on my L-Arginine Plus powder... don’t have any need for Viagara like some of the old fuddy duddies on this board so it’s not readily available to me.  :P

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New York has become little Italy with this virus. Almost half the total deaths and a significant number of positive detections in the US are in New York. Take New York out of the equation and the US hasn’t been hit that hard. Density of population and international travel likely play a big part. 

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3 minutes ago, soupslam1 said:

New York has become little Italy with this virus. Almost half the total deaths and a significant number of positive detections in the US are in New York. Take New York out of the equation and the US hasn’t been hit that hard. Density of population and international travel likely play a big part. 

I’m actually a lot more optimistic about this whole thing than I was a week ago.  I think there will be areas that are going to get hit hard but believe most of the country is going to weather this pretty well.

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4 minutes ago, NorCalCoug said:

I read nitric oxide has been thought to be an effective treatment or therapeutic.  L-Arginine supplements help increase this too.  If I get it I’m going to start doubling down on my L-Arginine Plus powder... don’t have any need for Viagara like some of the old fuddy duddies on this board so it’s not readily available to me.  :P

I was already taking both L-Arginine and L-Citrulline as part of my regular supplements. I have those around the house.

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7 minutes ago, FresnoFacts said:

I was already taking both L-Arginine and L-Citrulline as part of my regular supplements. I have those around the house.

Yep, me too!  Some of the few supplements I believe in.

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1 hour ago, retrofade said:

It says a lot about the veracity of your arguments when you have to resort to petulant personal attacks about the physical appearance of somebody that you've never actually met. Go back to listening to Rush, I'm sure he'll fill you with some more hate towards others to make you feel better about yourself. 

@TheSanDiegan, do you want to take the rest of this one? I almost feel bad for beating the shit out of him so much. Plus, you're the actual mathematician around here. 

Eh, not really. Apparently this is the New and Improved Bob, now 50% more resistant to fact-based information.

I guess I could try to explain what epidemiologists were able to take away from the (DP) cruise ship, or how atmospheric dynamics are far more complex to model than infectious disease, or how math is apolitical, or how the output of mathematical models is dependent on the datasets used for input, or how transmissibility is qualitatively and quantitatively impacted by social distancing, or how unlike his Limbaugh-licking face hole I can actually run the models myself, or any of a number of things I've touched on, glossed over, or deep-dived over the past hundred pages or so in either of two threads...

But why bother? :shrug: From checking upthread to see what gave him a rage boner in the first place, it looks like it's more fun just to trigger his tilted snowflake ass anyway.

Boob has consistently shown himself to incapable of internalizing, processing, and/or considering information that runs contrary to his predisposed belief system. And as such, Boob is as ignorant as they come, with his Full Stupid on display 24/7. If only bats could carry a virus that only infected the ignorant among us, then I could totally get on board with a 'let it ride' mentality.

 

tl;dr: There is no cure for the depth and degree of ignorance embraced by a f*cktarded clown penis like Bob.

 

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35 minutes ago, soupslam1 said:

New York has become little Italy with this virus. Almost half the total deaths and a significant number of positive detections in the US are in New York. Take New York out of the equation and the US hasn’t been hit that hard. Density of population and international travel likely play a big part. 

While true, remember that the outbreak is impacting different communities on different timelines. While NYC (and the whole tri-state area I suppose) was seemingly hit the hardest, it also entered the second phase of the pandemic ahead of other areas.

Look for Detroit and Louisiana to peak next, followed by...?

As responses were state-driven and varied from state-to-state, so will the presentation of the respective epidemic curve for each.

Hopefully tho no place else will be as bad as New York - I think that's something we can all get behind.

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SLC Mayor is considering extending stay at home order through Memorial Day or longer

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10 minutes ago, TheSanDiegan said:

math is apolitical

Can we stop with this particular refrain?

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8 minutes ago, TheSanDiegan said:

While true, remember that the outbreak is impacting different communities on different timelines. While NYC (and the whole tri-state area I suppose) was seemingly hit the hardest, it also entered the second phase of the pandemic ahead of other areas.

Look for Detroit and Louisiana to peak next, followed by...?

As responses were state-driven and varied from state-to-state, so will the presentation of the respective epidemic curve for each.

Hopefully tho no place else will be as bad as New York - I think that's something we can all get behind.

There doesn’t seem to be any letup in New York. The number of positive tests and deaths is ongoing and pretty consistent from day to day. 

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Everyone thinks this is them concerning coronavirus :

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29 minutes ago, TheSanDiegan said:

Eh, not really. Apparently this is the New and Improved Bob, now 50% more resistant to fact-based information.

I guess I could try to explain what epidemiologists were able to take away from the (DP) cruise ship, or how atmospheric dynamics are far more complex to model than infectious disease, or how math is apolitical, or how the output of mathematical models is dependent on the datasets used for input, or how transmissibility is qualitatively and quantitatively impacted by social distancing, or how unlike his Limbaugh-licking face hole I can actually run the models myself, or any of a number of things I've touched on, glossed over, or deep-dived over the past hundred pages or so in either of two threads...

But why bother? :shrug: From checking upthread to see what gave him a rage boner in the first place, it looks like it's more fun just to trigger his tilted snowflake ass anyway.

Boob has consistently shown himself to incapable of internalizing, processing, and/or considering information that runs contrary to his predisposed belief system. And as such, Boob is as ignorant as they come, with his Full Stupid on display 24/7. If only bats could carry a virus that only infected the ignorant among us, then I could totally get on board with a 'let it ride' mentality.

 

tl;dr: There is no cure for the depth and degree of ignorance embraced by a f*cktarded clown penis like Bob.

 

Enlighten me. Exactly why were the models off by at least a factor of 10 pertaining to all predictions? What did the 'experts' not understand or fail to build into their models?   Oh, and you were dead +++++ing wrong about this whole situation. A tiny fraction of the deaths, infections and hospitalizations will occur that you said would occur. Own it that you were wrong.

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