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On 2/28/2024 at 9:12 PM, AztecAlien said:

Imagine that. They had an interest, alright. Just curious, did all the virologists that went against your theory and were censored, black balled and called conspiracy theorists by the left-wing government, media and social media get an invitation to take part in that survey? 

SARS-CoV-2 came from a lab in China and the Chinese Government, the U.S. Government and spearhead Dr. Anthony Fauci tried to cover it up. The world was lied to, and all in the name of power.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Using that survey to make the claim "82%" of virologists agree on zoonotic hypotheses, when the real story of the survey is that 9 out of 10 of those approached, based on them showing "interest" per their project leads, is insane.

I mean come the +++++ on.....Using that to claim 82% of virologists agree is +++++ing insulting to everybody's intelligence here.

The real story is that 1138 scientists were contacted and only 16% gave a response.  Of that 16% yes, 82 % think it came from a zoonotic event.  The same damn people basically.

GJ was ignorant, wrong, and misrepresented his facts.  Now he is going to pout about it and stop posting.  Jeebus

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On 2/28/2024 at 10:16 PM, halfmanhalfbronco said:

Using that survey to make the claim "82%" of virologists agree on zoonotic hypotheses, when the real story of the survey is that 9 out of 10 of those approached, based on them showing "interest" per their project leads, is insane.

I mean come the +++++ on.....Using that to claim 82% of virologists agree is +++++ing insulting to everybody's intelligence here.

The real story is that 1138 scientists were contacted and only 16% gave a response.  Of that 16% yes, 82 % think it came from a zoonotic event.  The same damn people basically.

GJ was ignorant, wrong, and misrepresented his facts.  Now he is going to pout about it and stop posting.  Jeebus

He tried to pull the same thing in another thread claiming with a Pew research survey how most of the world has a favorable opinion of America. The problem was, only 23 or 26 countries took part in the survey and two of those recently have a negative view of America. 

You really need to read that piece by Dr. Rand Paul M.D. that I posted back a page or two. He describes pretty much what you stated and how Dr Fauci lied and tried to cover his tracks. Rand Paul backs his claims with evidence and information from other virologists. He also gets into the power of Dr. Fauci over many decades. There's also evidence of censorship and black balling from the left wing media. Dr. Rand Paul was also hammered by the media.

The real winners from the pandemic were corporate and health care bureaucrats. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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On 2/28/2024 at 9:16 PM, halfmanhalfbronco said:

Using that survey to make the claim "82%" of virologists agree on zoonotic hypotheses, when the real story of the survey is that 9 out of 10 of those approached, based on them showing "interest" per their project leads, is insane.

I mean come the +++++ on.....Using that to claim 82% of virologists agree is +++++ing insulting to everybody's intelligence here.

The real story is that 1138 scientists were contacted and only 16% gave a response.  Of that 16% yes, 82 % think it came from a zoonotic event.  The same damn people basically.

GJ was ignorant, wrong, and misrepresented his facts.  Now he is going to pout about it and stop posting.  Jeebus

That is selection bias to a tee.

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On 2/28/2024 at 10:40 PM, AztecAlien said:

He tried to pull the same thing in another thread claiming with a Pew research survey how most of the world has a favorable opinion of America. The problem was, only 23 or 26 countries took part in the survey and two of those recently have a negative view of America. 

You really need to read that piece by Dr. Rand Paul M.D. that I posted back a page or two. He describes pretty much what you stated and how Dr Fauci lied and tried to cover his tracks. Rand Paul backs his claims with evidence and information from other virologists. He also gets into the power of Dr. Fauci over many decades. There's also evidence of censorship and black balling from the left wing media. Dr. Rand Paul was also hammered by the media.

The real winners from the pandemic were corporate and health care bureaucrats. 

 

Ah yes, the completely unbiased eye doctor Rand Paul. Definitely no spin in that piece. I know that the first person I ask about immunizations and virology is my opthamologist. /s

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On 2/29/2024 at 8:31 AM, WYO1016 said:

Ah yes, the completely unbiased eye doctor Rand Paul. Definitely no spin in that piece. I know that the first person I ask about immunizations and virology is my opthamologist. /s

I would trust an eye doctor over say a CNN commentator, or politician. 

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On 2/29/2024 at 8:59 AM, bornontheblue said:

I would trust an eye doctor over say a CNN commentator, or politician. 

Heh, and that's the problem in this country. We should be distrusting all non-experts equally. My sister is an eye doctor and she knows jack shit about COVID virology and epidemiology.

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On 2/28/2024 at 8:06 PM, halfmanhalfbronco said:

"Outcome 1,138 invitations were sent to invite candidates to take part in the survey. Over 800 candidates were contacted through personalized emails from a senior project lead, rather than by automated communication. Registration links were then sent to only those who responded and indicated interest in participating. Ultimately, 214 individuals completed the registration, and 182 responses were collected"

Isn’t this like, how all of these studies work? I mean when it’s reported that “9/10 doctors recommend X” it’s not like literally every doctor was polled. Political polls were pretty accurate last few election cycles and they routinely ask only (at most) a couple thousand people out of a nation of what? Over 200M voting age citizens? 
 

I mean yea this study seems ripe for selection bias because it would have been easy to just not send invitations to specific virologists since the community seems pretty small. But I don’t know why you are so hyper focused on the sample size of the study. That seems reasonable.
 

How the participants were chosen, on the other hand? I dunno. 

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On 2/29/2024 at 9:29 AM, Stealthlobo said:

Heh, and that's the problem in this country. We should be distrusting all non-experts equally. My sister is an eye doctor and she knows jack shit about COVID virology and epidemiology.

I would trust that your sister would be better trained to read and keep up with the topic than say me, or almost everyone. 

 

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On 2/29/2024 at 9:31 AM, bornontheblue said:

I would trust that your sister would be better trained to read and keep up with the topic than say me, or almost everyone. 

 

Well you definitely shouldn't. That's like me trusting my financial advisor how to do my taxes because he knows a bit more in that area than the layman. Even he admits he knows just enough to be dangerous.

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On 2/29/2024 at 9:36 AM, Stealthlobo said:

Well you definitely shouldn't. That's like me trusting my financial advisor how to do my taxes because he knows a bit more in that area than the layman. Even he admits he knows just enough to be dangerous.

Yeah, but I would trust your financial advisor speaking to your taxes over say your auto mechanic. 

I would trust Dr. Paul over a CNN talking head. 

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On 2/29/2024 at 9:41 AM, bornontheblue said:

Yeah, but I would trust your financial advisor speaking to your taxes over say your auto mechanic. 

I would trust Dr. Paul over a CNN talking head. 

I'm just saying trust neither of them. Postpone your opinion for a bit longer and find better sources of information. Too many people feel they need to know immediately, and trust a bad source even if it's better than the immediate alternative one.

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On 2/29/2024 at 8:31 AM, WYO1016 said:

Ah yes, the completely unbiased eye doctor Rand Paul. Definitely no spin in that piece. I know that the first person I ask about immunizations and virology is my opthamologist. /s

Guess you didn't read it or the new information that has come out. The information Dr Rand Paul used and the evidence he collected came from virologists and other scientists. He also had emails from Dr. Fauci that ties him to the lies and the cover ups. 

Under deposition from Missouri Attorney General Eric Schmitt and Louisiana Attorney General Jeff Landry about those emails and other important information, Dr. Fauci said he did not recall 174 times. He also lied to Congress.

SARS-CoV-2 came from a lab in China that was using gain-of-function research and Dr. Fauci was funding it and he tried to cover it up by bullying people with his power.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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On 2/29/2024 at 10:35 AM, tailingpermit said:

Said it before, say it again.

Had Trump let Fauci and Pence handle Covid, he would be President right now.  

Trump couldn't help himself 

Those daily COVID briefings early in 2020 were a complete shitshow. 

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