SharkTanked Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 On 2/28/2024 at 1:43 PM, halfmanhalfbronco said: The world needs to hold China, Drazask and Fauci responsible for the roll they played in the deaths of tens of millsion, the loss of 14 trillion in the worlds economy, and shutting down the world for a year and all the destruction that wraught. Fauci should be in prison and the world should sanction China to the point of collapse. I have long thought the lab leak theory was most likely. Just in terms of the seemingly rapid evolution of the virus from other forms of SARS. It didn't seem natural to me, but I'm no virologist. I have not really been following this as closely as others. What is Fauci's criminal responsibility in this? Also the world's economy would probably collapse if we made China's economy collapse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfmanhalfbronco Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 On 2/28/2024 at 3:55 PM, SharkTanked said: I have long thought the lab leak theory was most likely. Just in terms of the seemingly rapid evolution of the virus from other forms of SARS. It didn't seem natural to me, but I'm no virologist. I have not really been following this as closely as others. What is Fauci's criminal responsibility in this? Also the world's economy would probably collapse if we made China's economy collapse. Fauci helped +++++ing Peter Draszak move funding to the WIV, he helped him and his team circumvent concerns the other departments had on such research, they both played fast and loose to get that funding. When national security denied their funding (forget the exact agency I am on my phone in a restaurant) they found "creative" ways to get that funding to the Bat Lady and the WIV. Draszak specifically put forth and is responsible for the idea of creating a furine cleavage site to better attach to humanized lung cells in mice. That was his idea with the blessing of Fauci. It was their pet project they kept hidden from oversight as much as they could. And tens of millions died because of it. And then they lied, bullied, screamed and shouted. +++++ Fauci. He is an evil man and should die behind bars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bornontheblue Posted February 28 Author Share Posted February 28 On 2/28/2024 at 3:32 PM, halfmanhalfbronco said: It's +++++ing disgusting. To still believe SARS-CoV-2 was the result of a natural zoonatic shift requires so many leaps as to be practically impossible. The now infamous racoon dog study has been completely eviscerated by math. Completely +++++ing shit on by their betters who were not cowards and mathed it the +++++ out. To still believe it "most likely" was a zoonotic shift at the wet market from racoon dogs or pangolins or whatever is to have your head buried in the sand. To not believe common sense. It came from that +++++ing lab, and Fauci and Draszak hold blame for the way they shadily manipulated funds to enable the research that killed tens of millions, and then bullied and intimated their peers into signing a bullshit letter they penned. +++++ing disgusting. They have the blood of tens of millions on their hands. +++++ Fauci and Peter Draszak. Evil, evil mother +++++ers. Especially Fauci who +++++ing knew the whole time but embraced his celebrity and made millions, knowing he was lying to the public and causing destruction at unheard of scales. +++++ them both to hell. This should be the biggest story since the bombs dropped on Japan....it's not because of politics teams and shit....The dems and "follow the science" libtards can not admit they were way to +++++ing stupid to follow any science, and were lied to. And they bought it up because they were just that +++++ing ignorant and scientific illiterates. Best part of the article given the mainstream media’s sustained inability to report the issue objectively. Editors have failed to think beyond the extreme politicization that requires liberals to oppose the lab-leak hypothesis. Science journalists are too beholden to their sources to suspect that virologists would lie to them about the extent of their profession’s responsibility for a catastrophic pandemic. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelawlorfaithful Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 On 2/28/2024 at 2:32 PM, halfmanhalfbronco said: It's +++++ing disgusting. To still believe SARS-CoV-2 was the result of a natural zoonatic shift requires so many leaps as to be practically impossible. The now infamous racoon dog study has been completely eviscerated by math. Completely +++++ing shit on by their betters who were not cowards and mathed it the +++++ out. To still believe it "most likely" was a zoonotic shift at the wet market from racoon dogs or pangolins or whatever is to have your head buried in the sand. To not believe common sense. It came from that +++++ing lab, and Fauci and Draszak hold blame for the way they shadily manipulated funds to enable the research that killed tens of millions, and then bullied and intimated their peers into signing a bullshit letter they penned. +++++ing disgusting. They have the blood of tens of millions on their hands. +++++ Fauci and Peter Draszak. Evil, evil mother +++++ers. Especially Fauci who +++++ing knew the whole time but embraced his celebrity and made millions, knowing he was lying to the public and causing destruction at unheard of scales. +++++ them both to hell. This should be the biggest story since the bombs dropped on Japan....it's not because of politics teams and shit....The dems and "follow the science" libtards can not admit they were way to +++++ing stupid to follow any science, and were lied to. And they bought it up because they were just that +++++ing ignorant and scientific illiterates. I’m with you. I’m angry It’s awful. It’s reprehensible. But there are too many people, too much money, too many reputations and egos to do what that anger justifiably is entitled to. We can’t get those people back. We can’t get those years back. And nobody that acted like an asshole is going to admit to it. Without them there’s not enough willpower to hold anyone accountable, let alone China who millions are dependent upon for their fortunes. Sometimes the bad guys get away. 1 Quote We’re all sitting in the dugout. Thinking we should pitch. How you gonna throw a shutout when all you do is bitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfmanhalfbronco Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 Fauci, the Hero of the left, might be responsible in part for more deaths than Hitler. Think about it. +++++ him and Peter to hell. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfmanhalfbronco Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 On 2/28/2024 at 4:06 PM, thelawlorfaithful said: I’m with you. I’m angry It’s awful. It’s reprehensible. But there are too many people, too much money, too many reputations and egos to do what that anger justifiably is entitled to. We can’t get those people back. We can’t get those years back. And nobody that acted like an asshole is going to admit to it. Without them there’s not enough willpower to hold anyone accountable, let alone China who millions are dependent upon for their fortunes. Sometimes the bad guys get away. I admit it. I acted like an asshole. I acted like a holier than though follow the science douch. In this thread. The fact is this absolutely came from the lab. Denying it at this point makes you look just +++++ing dumb. When all the evidence says you are wrong, when there is nothing back up your side scientifically, just say +++++ing uncle. This absolutely was created in that +++++ing lab, and escaped from it. This would not have been possible if Fauci and Draszak were not the worlds biggest pieces of shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfmanhalfbronco Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 Also, I take a little pride in the now famous racoon dog study. It was linked multiple times and I was tagged to "explain it" as the study now claimed insane things. I tore that study apart. As a Layman. I ripped it to shreds. I +++++ing destroyed it. Everything I said that destroyed that article was within weeks corroborated by others in the scientific community. Me, a layman was able to pick it apart and destroy the +++++ out of it. I eviscerated that dumb +++++ing study on this board. As a laymen. Exactly what I said was wrong with it, is now what peer review has proven to be wrong. I tried to explain it to you guys on this board, but nobody would have it (looking at you @grandjean87) It came from that +++++ing lab.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bornontheblue Posted February 28 Author Share Posted February 28 On 2/28/2024 at 4:33 PM, halfmanhalfbronco said: Also, I take a little pride in the now famous racoon dog study. It was linked multiple times and I was tagged to "explain it" as the study now claimed insane things. I tore that study apart. As a Layman. I ripped it to shreds. I +++++ing destroyed it. Everything I said that destroyed that article was within weeks corroborated by others in the scientific community. Me, a layman was able to pick it apart and destroy the +++++ out of it. I eviscerated that dumb +++++ing study on this board. As a laymen. Exactly what I said was wrong with it, is now what peer review has proven to be wrong. I tried to explain it to you guys on this board, but nobody would have it (looking at you @grandjean87) It came from that +++++ing lab.... Where is @grandjean87? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tailingpermit Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 On 2/28/2024 at 6:58 PM, bornontheblue said: Where is @grandjean87? Typing a manifesto deep in the Idaho woods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfmanhalfbronco Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 On 2/28/2024 at 4:58 PM, bornontheblue said: Where is @grandjean87? Taking a break. Being smarter than everybody else takes a toll Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfmanhalfbronco Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 If there is justice in the world, Faucie should die screaming....The death he wrought can not be forgiven. Millions of deaths are on their feet. Anthony and Peter were told as much. They were told this could lead to the potential end of the world. And Anthony +++++ing Fauci went along with it. Then he tricked all the idots on the left. Yes, the idiots on the left were fooled by Fauci. +++++ him. This should be the biggest story in the world right now. It is not because Biden, and China, do not want it to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandjean87 Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 On 2/28/2024 at 3:55 PM, SharkTanked said: I have long thought the lab leak theory was most likely. Just in terms of the seemingly rapid evolution of the virus from other forms of SARS. It didn't seem natural to me, but I'm no virologist. I have not really been following this as closely as others. What is Fauci's criminal responsibility in this? Also the world's economy would probably collapse if we made China's economy collapse. It's natural to feel a lab origin is likely, but that's part of the psychology of being a normal consumer of news and information in the USA. It's what has been fed in the popular media. Illusory Truth Effect 101. And, there are legit science folks who still lean to a lab origin. But, in a recent survey of worldwide experts by the Global Catastrophic Risk Institute, 82% of virologists were in the zoonotic origin camp. 77% of all disciplines combined in the survey also say zoonosis. P47, iirc. https://gcrinstitute.org/papers/069a_covid-origin-annex.pdf As for that WSJ article linked a few posts back it is old news. It's an opinion piece that appears to be a regurgitation from a few months back by reporter, not virologist nor scientist, Emily Kopp. The repackaging of old news as new is endemic on this subject. Wait until next week, there will be more. A few quick points. The study proposal known as "DEFUSE" was never funded. It did not happen. Research was targeted to the collaboration in North Carolina (UNC). North Carolina, not Wuhan (10.02.22 @flofebarre "...the insertion work described in DEFUSE was planned to be done at UNC...". Then there is what the study proposal was for the research that was not done. It does not match up with the unique S1/S2 spike coding sequence (which occurs in nature). The proposal was for work on S2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandjean87 Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 On 2/28/2024 at 5:34 PM, grandjean87 said: As for that WSJ article linked a few posts back it is old news. It's an opinion piece that appears to be a regurgitation from a few months back by reporter, not virologist nor scientist, Emily Kopp. The repackaging of old news as new is endemic on this subject. Wait until next week, there will be more. A few quick points. The study proposal known as "DEFUSE" was never funded. It did not happen. Research was targeted to the collaboration in North Carolina (UNC). North Carolina, not Wuhan (10.02.22 @flofebarre "...the insertion work described in DEFUSE was planned to be done at UNC...". Then there is what the study proposal was for the research that was not done. It does not match up with the unique S1/S2 spike coding sequence (which occurs in nature). The proposal was for work on S2. All of which even if there was a double dog secret hidden lab experiment gone awry, it does not follow that the DEFUSE proposal had anything to do with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Monty Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 On 2/28/2024 at 4:21 PM, halfmanhalfbronco said: If there is justice in the world, Faucie should die screaming....The death he wrought can not be forgiven. Millions of deaths are on their feet. Anthony and Peter were told as much. They were told this could lead to the potential end of the world. And Anthony +++++ing Fauci went along with it. Then he tricked all the idots on the left. Yes, the idiots on the left were fooled by Fauci. +++++ him. This should be the biggest story in the world right now. It is not because Biden, and China, do not want it to be. trying to think of the psychology of why people so strongly refused to believe that reckless "science" caused this pandemic... I think it was largely a reaction to Trump Trump called it the "China virus", and his followers were deemed fools because they didn't believe in "the science", and pursued things like (i) wanting to keep the schools open, (ii) no masks, (iii) looking at off the shelf drugs to cure Covid (ivermectin called horse dewormer), and looking to vitamins. His supporters also downplayed it and claimed it was similar to a bad flu season. This caused an inverse reaction by liberals / leftists, who had to make these people look like complete idiots / and tie to Trump. A "death cult" that did not believe in science, and looked to cooky things like religion and pseudo science. So it was maybe cognitive dissonance to admit that "reckless science" created this pandemic, and was not something they could admit? even talking about it was verboten? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfmanhalfbronco Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 On 2/28/2024 at 5:34 PM, grandjean87 said: It's natural to feel a lab origin is likely, but that's part of the psychology of being a normal consumer of news and information n the USA. It's what has been fed in the popular media. Illusory Truth Effect 101. And, there are legit science folks who still lean to a lab origin. But, in a recent survey of worldwide experts by the Global Catastrophic Risk Institute, 82% of virologists were in the zoonotic origin camp. 77% of all disciplines combined in the survey also say zoonosis. P47, iirc. https://gcrinstitute.org/papers/069a_covid-origin-annex.pdf As for that WSJ article linked a few posts back it is old news. It's an opinion piece that appears to be a regurgitation from a few months back by reporter, not virologist nor scientist, Emily Kopp. The repackaging of old news as new is endemic on this subject. Wait until next week, there will be more. A few quick points. The study proposal known as "DEFUSE" was never funded. It did not happen. Research was targeted to the collaboration in North Carolina (UNC). North Carolina, not Wuhan (10.02.22 @flofebarre "...the insertion work described in DEFUSE was planned to be done at UNC...". Then there is what the study proposal was for the research that was not done. It does not match up with the unique S1/S2 spike coding sequence (which occurs in nature). The proposal was for work on S2. LMAO. Yeah "DEFUSE" never happened. Yet that furine chevage site is there..... I mean come on. COME ON Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Monty Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 another thing odd to think about in retrospect I recall a liberal friend, very highly educated professor, who posted on facebook that all of the deaths were preventable, if we had simply been all in on a 2 week complete lockdown, where no one left the house later, he amended that to people social distancing and wearing masks.. then the election became a referrendum on Trump handling the pandemic. I got the icky vibe that people were cheering death on because they pandemic was being utlized as a referrendum on Trump and saying "Trump has blood on his hands" by not quickly acting to stop the pandemic and it was all preventable. weird how the 2020 election was all about Covid in a lot of ways. and 2024 it is not even an issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bornontheblue Posted February 29 Author Share Posted February 29 On 2/28/2024 at 5:44 PM, halfmanhalfbronco said: LMAO. Yeah "DEFUSE" never happened. Yet that furine chevage site is there..... I mean come on. Reenactment of what really happened at the Lab 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfmanhalfbronco Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 On 2/28/2024 at 5:48 PM, bornontheblue said: Reenactment of what really happened at the Lab We know a few things for fact. Those facts all point to one conclusion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AztecAlien Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 Rand Paul Knew And So Did Many Others. https://highlandcountypress.com/opinions/lessons-great-covid-cover-fauci-lied-congress-and-american-people#gsc.tab=0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandjean87 Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 On 2/28/2024 at 5:44 PM, halfmanhalfbronco said: LMAO. Yeah "DEFUSE" never happened. Yet that furine chevage site is there..... I mean come on. Cleavage not chevage. You of all people should know cleavage. I'm going to respond to you one time only before taking another break from posting. It will echo our last phone conversation which as I was driving home from the dog park one day a few weeks back. You should recall. I love you, Pj. You are an idiot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
