HR_Poke Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 47 minutes ago, grandjean87 said: It’s scaring the shit out of the markets. Too early to tell, but this could be where the lethality also takes a dip. Or, not and that’s going to replicate the effects of the Delta wave. It's scaring the shit out of scientists too. We really should have been inocculating the 3rd world long before we were worried about giving boosters in Europe and the US. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bornontheblue Posted November 26, 2021 Author Share Posted November 26, 2021 +++++ this virus 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfmanhalfbronco Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 B.1.1.529 confirmed in Belgium Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retrofade Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 5 minutes ago, halfmanhalfbronco said: B.1.1.529 confirmed in Belgium Motherfucker 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandjean87 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 36 minutes ago, HR_Poke said: It's scaring the shit out of scientists too. We really should have been inocculating the 3rd world long before we were worried about giving boosters in Europe and the US. Distribution, man. I mean we have enough resources to feed, clothe, and provide basic housing, and better sanitation for the planet, but that hasn't happened. Getting the globe vaccinated was always going to be a few years. Hoping a couple or more new vaccines suitable for underdeveloped nations' distribution are ready by '22 (Novavax, ImmunityBio, others.) with decent efficacy against severe disease. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FresnoFacts Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 1 hour ago, halfmanhalfbronco said: B.1.1.529 confirmed in Belgium Also Israel announced 1 confirmed B.1.1.529 case and 2 suspected. Hong Kong has also identified several cases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billings Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 1 hour ago, halfmanhalfbronco said: B.1.1.529 confirmed in Belgium Belgium case was unvaccinated but seems in South Africa it is hitting young people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billings Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 2 hours ago, grandjean87 said: It’s scaring the shit out of the markets. Too early to tell, but this could be where the lethality also takes a dip. Or, not and that’s going to replicate the effects of the Delta wave. Well, gas prices will come down if this holds. Hope we see the mutation that weakens the virus. That happens more than the other way around but not always. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billings Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 1 hour ago, HR_Poke said: It's scaring the shit out of scientists too. We really should have been inocculating the 3rd world long before we were worried about giving boosters in Europe and the US. But then Africa, despite a low vaccination rate, has seen lower covid numbers and is doing better than most. https://theconversation.com/the-impact-of-covid-19-has-been-lower-in-africa-we-explore-the-reasons-164955 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billings Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 AP Story "Early evidence suggests an increased risk of reinfection compared to other highly transmissible variants, the WHO said. That means people who contracted COVID-19 and recovered could be subject to catching it again." https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-new-variant-southern-africa-33fa0983af6c9f961a186f4f4bb1147d 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SalinasSpartan Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 12 minutes ago, Billings said: AP Story "Early evidence suggests an increased risk of reinfection compared to other highly transmissible variants, the WHO said. That means people who contracted COVID-19 and recovered could be subject to catching it again." https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-new-variant-southern-africa-33fa0983af6c9f961a186f4f4bb1147d Well let’s hope the increased transmissibility comes with lower risk for death/severe symptoms. If it does, this will be a net positive. Also, it’s good timing that the antiviral pills will be approved very soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAMO Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 4 hours ago, Mano said: The father of one of my son's friends died of covid on Wednesday. He was in his late 50's, very overweight and had other health issues in the past, yet refused to be vaccinated. It is tragic, he leaves behind 15 and 18 year old sons, their Mother had passed away several years ago. The crowd he runs with argued against vaccination due to the politics, but also were using the argument that getting the vaccination would be showing a lack of faith in God. I am deeply saddened for his kids. sounds like the worlds collective iq improved overnite wednesday...lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billings Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 Big numbers of covid positives on 2 flights from South Africa to the Netherlands. Yea this one is already in the US https://indianewsrepublic.com/dozens-of-covid-19-cases-in-flight-from-south-africa-dutch-officials-say/558910/ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toonkee Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bornontheblue Posted November 27, 2021 Author Share Posted November 27, 2021 Man, I hope the fears of this variant are Unrealized. If this variant is more deadly than Delta , society will not be able to handle it 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandjean87 Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 1 hour ago, bornontheblue said: Man, I hope the fears of this variant are Unrealized. If this variant is more deadly than Delta , society will not be able to handle it No evidence of deadlier. It seems Delta had burned through South Africa so the O might not be as contagious as feared due to all those spike mutations. I think it’s just a short time to watch and see. We’ll know more soon, but I fully expect that those w/immunity via convalescent status and/or vaccination will have fair protection from severe disease even for Omicron. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bornontheblue Posted November 27, 2021 Author Share Posted November 27, 2021 10 minutes ago, grandjean87 said: No evidence of deadlier. It seems Delta had burned through South Africa so the O might not be as contagious as feared due to all those spike mutations. I think it’s just a short time to watch and see. We’ll know more soon, but I fully expect that those w/immunity via convalescent status and/or vaccination will have fair protection from severe disease even for Omicron. Gdam I’m so tired of this virus @grandjean87 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandjean87 Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 11 hours ago, bornontheblue said: Gdam I’m so tired of this virus @grandjean87 I am, too. No surge in hospitalizations in South Africa is yet occurring. A few well travelers have been identified so like the rest of the main strains, there will be a wide range of outcomes and most will be asymptomatic to mild. This may be the start of the endemic phase depending on how it goes and is eventually categorized. We now have more therapeutics, more convalescent patients, and plenty of vaccines (USA). It’s too early to tell what Omicron will do, but I don’t think it’s going to be as deadly here as our Delta wave. The global challenge is to get the less developed world immunized to high levels, get those newer vaccines out there, and have widespread distribution of effective therapeutics. Eventually, we’ll have a pan-coronavirus vaccine. Back here in SW Idaho, we are who we are. I just do my friendly thing to all I meet wherever. Cast as much sunshine as I can. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lester_in_reno Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 FOX playing to stupid Motherfarkers like Bob: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billings Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 Israel, one of the most vaccinated countries in the world, has closed its borders to all non-citizens https://thehill.com/policy/international/583254-israel-closes-borders-to-all-foreigners-due-to-omicron-variant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...