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I think we're handling this the best possible way. We need to put the pedal to the metal, the best we can. Ease up when we need to, use our noggins, figure out the best way to handle it. The more our economy tanks, the worse the overall suffering will be. Right now it seems everybody's banking on masks. If that doesn't do it, we may just need to accept increased deaths. Big picture, we've been blessed with long-term increase in age longevity, this will just be a minor setback in the overall trend. A few generations ago, you were lucky to live to age 65.

 

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17 minutes ago, modestobulldog said:

I think we're handling this the best possible way. We need to put the pedal to the metal, the best we can. Ease up when we need to, use our noggins, figure out the best way to handle it. The more our economy tanks, the worse the overall suffering will be. Right now it seems everybody's banking on masks. If that doesn't do it, we may just need to accept increased deaths. Big picture, we've been blessed with long-term increase in age longevity, this will just be a minor setback in the overall trend. A few generations ago, you were lucky to live to age 65.

 

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So life expectancy in the US has fallen behind other peer countries when we used to be in the middle. That is not a good place to be.

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The CDC says pregnant women who get COVID-19 are at a higher risk of hospitalization and ventilation than non-pregnant women who get COVID-19. The death rates are about the same for both groups.

Add pregnant women to the high-risk groups.

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However, more than 31% of pregnant women who caught coronavirus were hospitalized, compared to 5.8% of nonpregnant women, the report found.

"Pregnant women were 50% more likely to be admitted to the intensive care unit and 70% more likely to receive mechanical ventilation," Oliver said in her presentation.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/25/health/coronavirus-pregnant-risks-cdc-study/index.html

 

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45 minutes ago, 4UNLV said:

Any truth to this? higher premiums I understand, but denial? That would be especially brutal for those who tested positive but were asymptomatic.

 

 

That would be some Mr. Burns level stuff right there.

 

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4 hours ago, FresnoFacts said:

So life expectancy in the US has fallen behind other peer countries when we used to be in the middle. That is not a good place to be.

Costs you 4 years of your life to live in the greatest country in the world I guess...

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5 hours ago, modestobulldog said:

I think we're handling this the best possible way. We need to put the pedal to the metal, the best we can. Ease up when we need to, use our noggins, figure out the best way to handle it. The more our economy tanks, the worse the overall suffering will be. Right now it seems everybody's banking on masks. If that doesn't do it, we may just need to accept increased deaths. Big picture, we've been blessed with long-term increase in age longevity, this will just be a minor setback in the overall trend. A few generations ago, you were lucky to live to age 65.

 

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Yeah not sure what your intent was with that chart but if you juxtapose it with cost per capita showing the US spends 1.8 times more than the next closest country it’s a pretty good model of how F’d up our country is on healthcare.  

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1 hour ago, 4UNLV said:

Any truth to this? higher premiums I understand, but denial? That would be especially brutal for those who tested positive but were asymptomatic.

 

 

The best he can do is issue an executive order. The Dems in the House aren’t changing any law.   

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2 hours ago, sactowndog said:

Yeah not sure what your intent was with that chart but if you juxtapose it with cost per capita showing the US spends 1.8 times more than the next closest country it’s a pretty good model of how F’d up our country is on healthcare.  

No it doesn’t. Life expectancy isn’t a reflection of how good our healthcare system is. Once you’re in their hands, you’re in the best healthcare system in the world. Before that, while you’re driving your suburban self to and fro, traveling from point a to point b until an accident happens, it’s out of their hands. It’s a big country. And it’s even bigger for most of us that frequent here. We know we’re not walking it, or riding trains or subways like many other places. That ain’t the medical professional’s fault.

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We’re all sitting in the dugout. Thinking we should pitch. How you gonna throw a shutout when all you do is bitch.

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5 hours ago, thelawlorfaithful said:

No it doesn’t. Life expectancy isn’t a reflection of how good our healthcare system is. Once you’re in their hands, you’re in the best healthcare system in the world. Before that, while you’re driving your suburban self to and fro, traveling from point a to point b until an accident happens, it’s out of their hands. It’s a big country. And it’s even bigger for most of us that frequent here. We know we’re not walking it, or riding trains or subways like many other places. That ain’t the medical professional’s fault.

This is true, but it’s not the whole truth. While our system is among the best in the world, Access to health care for the poor and lower middle class is a key reason why their life expectancy is significantly lower than other Americans, driving the overall life expectancy of the country lower.

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29 minutes ago, Bob said:

Comparing the life expectancy of our diverse population with those of countries of homogeneous populations is comparing apples to oranges and then to decry our health care system as the sole reason we lag is doubly stupid.

Not all developed countries are homogenous. How do we compare to the UK, France, and Canada? Not being a smart ass, I haven’t looked up how we stack up against them. 

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6 hours ago, thelawlorfaithful said:

No it doesn’t. Life expectancy isn’t a reflection of how good our healthcare system is. Once you’re in their hands, you’re in the best healthcare system in the world. Before that, while you’re driving your suburban self to and fro, traveling from point a to point b until an accident happens, it’s out of their hands. It’s a big country. And it’s even bigger for most of us that frequent here. We know we’re not walking it, or riding trains or subways like many other places. That ain’t the medical professional’s fault.

That may be true for the 1% club.  It is not close to true for those going to places like Kaiser which actively tries to not see people to increase profits.  And life expectancy is a measure of our healthcare as is infant mortality and other proxies.

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34 minutes ago, Bob said:

Comparing the life expectancy of our diverse population with those of countries of homogeneous populations is comparing apples to oranges and then to decry our health care system as the sole reason we lag is doubly stupid.

Thinking those countries all have homogeneous populations is not at all accurate.  Britain has a very diverse population for example.   Spend any time in London?  The statistics Modesto posted are called benchmarking.  It is used in every well run organization.  If you think you have a better benchmark statistic you are free to post it.   Otherwise, it is your typical head in the sand ignore the data response which quite frankly gets old and is out of step with everyone else who is thoughtful and data driven on this board.

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11 minutes ago, SalinasSpartan said:

Not all developed countries are homogenous. How do we compare to the UK, France, and Canada? Not being a smart ass, I haven’t looked up how we stack up against them. 

United States = 78.9

UK = 81.3

Canada = 82.4

France = 82.7

 

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1 hour ago, Bob said:

We get it. You hate America. 

No, I'm just tired of GD stupid dummies that see world stats on things like life expectancy, happiness, freedom and education and tell me America is #1 because some people have a house on a quarter acre. 

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