SleepingGiantFan Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 49 minutes ago, mysfit said: Holy crap this is one nasty bug. It causes clotting. Significant clotting including saddle embolism. You do not want to get this bug. This is NOT the flu. This is a real nasty little shitbug. https://abcnews.go.com/Health/covid-19-patients-blood-clots/story?id=70131612&cid=clicksource_4380645_4_three_posts_card_hed I urge you to read the article more carefully. Note qualifiers like "some" who have come down with symptoms and "severe" cases. And note that it's based on anecdotal evidence and not at all on statistical data. COVID-19 is indeed clearly worse than the common flu. Just as clear, however, is that many media reports continue to sensationalize the disease. 1 Quote Boom goes the dynamite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FresnoFacts Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 42 minutes ago, East Coast Aztec said: They have the right. Will be interesting to see what happens if they become sick. You know they won't blame themselves. Probably will say there were infiltrators from the other side with coronavirus who intentionally showed up and passed it to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Del Scorcho Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 12 minutes ago, FresnoFacts said: Probably will say there were infiltrators from the other side with coronavirus who intentionally showed up and passed it to them. anyone attending these and refraining from social distancing should be forced to give up their rights to medical care should they get sick. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mysfit Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 13 minutes ago, SleepingGiantFan said: I urge you to read the article more carefully. Note qualifiers like "some" who have come down with symptoms and "severe" cases. And note that it's based on anecdotal evidence and not at all on statistical data. COVID-19 is indeed clearly worse than the common flu. Just as clear, however, is that many media reports continue to sensationalize the disease. Well let's see, there is also that Broadway actor who just had his right leg amputated due to clotting from the c-virus. It doesn't happen in all cases but then they haven't been looking for it. It's one nasty little bug that in addition to the respiratory and gastric issues, as well as neurological in some cases, can also cause clotting. You personally may require hard statistical numbers before you worry about it, but from my reading it happens enough that I believe this is one nasty little shitbug that can have long term health concerns. 1 Quote One of the Final Five.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNLV2001 Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 Don't think this is bad news, but shows there is uncertainty to what effects the virus has on various people & the dangers of some being somewhat immune while others might get hit hard. Genetics will play a part in survival rates Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mysfit Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 It has yet to be determined if and at what level antibodies provide any protection Ok I see this covered in one of the tweets Quote One of the Final Five.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FresnoFacts Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, UNLV2001 said: Unfortunately the LA and Stanford studies can also be interpreted to indicate over 95% of people may not have been infected yet. We are a long way from Herd Immunity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mugtang Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 5 hours ago, Bob said: Maybe if they were masked up and practicing social distancing we could all come out sooner. But these idiots are going to cause spikes in infections and they will have nobody to blame but themselves. 1 Quote thelawlorfaithful, on 31 Dec 2012 - 04:01 AM, said:One of the rules I live by: never underestimate a man in a dandy looking sweater Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smltwnrckr Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 5 hours ago, halfmanhalfbronco said: The flu comparison is dumb... but maybe 9/11 isn't a good example to use when comparing the body count of the act itself vs the body count of the response. Quote Planning is an exercise of power, and in a modern state much real power is suffused with boredom. The agents of planning are usually boring; the planning process is boring; the implementation of plans is always boring. In a democracy boredom works for bureaucracies and corporations as smell works for skunk. It keeps danger away. Power does not have to be exercised behind the scenes. It can be open. The audience is asleep. The modern world is forged amidst our inattention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPslograd Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 Why are boutiques and shoe stores closed but ice cream parlors open? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPslograd Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 Why are tobacco shops open but GameStop closed? (don't get me wrong, I'm glad the tobacco shop is open) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happycamper Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 41 minutes ago, Bob said: bob just look stuff up yourself for once. The average flu deaths in the last 9 years was about 37k. https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/past-seasons.html I've used literally that same link to disprove your claims before, you'd think that you would, like, get a little bit savvy at some point 1 Quote Remember that every argument you have with someone on MWCboard is actually the continuation of a different argument they had with someone else also on MWCboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPslograd Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 Sweden will be interesting to look at a year or two from now. They kind of offer a "control" group to measure against most of the other Western responses. Obviously there are differences, but if they continue to hold firm it will offer us some insight. It will take at least a year to see how it plays out. https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/sweden-says-controversial-virus-strategy-proving-effective/ar-BB12TP18?li=AAggFp4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mugtang Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 44 minutes ago, CPslograd said: Sweden will be interesting to look at a year or two from now. They kind of offer a "control" group to measure against most of the other Western responses. Obviously there are differences, but if they continue to hold firm it will offer us some insight. It will take at least a year to see how it plays out. https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/sweden-says-controversial-virus-strategy-proving-effective/ar-BB12TP18?li=AAggFp4 I think one of the differences is Swedes trust each other and their government. They’ll voluntarily socially distance so the government won’t need to enact crazy lockdowns. 3 Quote thelawlorfaithful, on 31 Dec 2012 - 04:01 AM, said:One of the rules I live by: never underestimate a man in a dandy looking sweater Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepingGiantFan Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 27 minutes ago, mugtang said: I think one of the differences is Swedes trust each other and their government. They’ll voluntarily socially distance so the government won’t need to enact crazy lockdowns. And profits are far less important to the broadcast media in Sweden than is the case here. https://sweden.se/society/10-features-of-democracy-in-sweden/ Want profits? Get ratings. Want ratings? Don't simply report hard facts; instead, sensationalize and cherry pick them. 4 Quote Boom goes the dynamite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FresnoFacts Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 2 hours ago, Bob said: This article states that disruptions to cancer treatments could likely cause more deaths than corona virus itself. This lock down nonsense is getting more ridiculous and destructive by the day https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1268059/cancer-deaths-coronavirus-nhs On the other hand, Sweden just declared the high-risk groups (who are supposed to stay home) include "Cancer, or ongoing or recently concluded treatment for cancer". https://www.thelocal.se/20200420/risk-groups-for-coronavirus-in-sweden-obesity-diabetes-heart-lung Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPslograd Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 5 minutes ago, FresnoFacts said: On the other hand, Sweden just declared the high-risk groups (who are supposed to stay home) include "Cancer, or ongoing or recently concluded treatment for cancer". https://www.thelocal.se/20200420/risk-groups-for-coronavirus-in-sweden-obesity-diabetes-heart-lung That doesn't really negate his point. Of course they are high risk. That doesn't change the impact of reducing cancer screenings and treatments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...