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Corona Virus - How bad is it going to be?

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6 hours ago, Joe from WY said:

You're still telling others how to live. 

By your logic saying someone shouldn’t be free to shoot you also isn’t a problem.  There is nothing in libertarianism that gives you the right to put others knowingly at risk.  

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9 minutes ago, bornontheblue said:

The house was moving and shaking and my Labrador Retriever was freaked but we are good. The epicenter was in a very remote part of Idaho 

Very near to a lodge that I follow on Facebook, Diamond D Ranch - everything has been reported to be ok there.  

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Good article on modeling the hospitalization and death rate in Cali and Washington.  Seems the governors were smart to shut it down so early.

 

https://www.kcra.com/article/researchers-predict-california-peak-covid-19-cases/31984677

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6 hours ago, Joe from WY said:

No. I'd just expect him to be consistent. He's only a libertarian when it's convenient. 

It’s not him whose logic is off.  The basis of Libertarianism is you should be free to do what you like as long as it does impact others.   Libertarianism is not anarchy and you often cross that line.
 

In the time of a pandemic approaching others who may well be at risk puts them at risk and is the opposite of libertarianism as the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness is the most fundamental right of all.   
 

Here is Cato’s view

https://www.cato.org/blog/libertarianism-coronavirus-pandemic

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2 hours ago, retrofade said:

I don't know who HoustonBronco is, but yeah... it's pretty painful. We have a guy going on and on about how the CDC is incompetent, and then like five posts later he's touting the CDC as experts because they said something he agrees with. The best part though... that's honestly just the tip of the iceberg. 

Is this on the Barkboard Retro?

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2 hours ago, bornontheblue said:

+++++ this ... the end of the world is at hand boys !!!

just had an earthquake in Idaho 

Lots of seismic activity in the intermountain west!  SLC, Utah had a 5.7 and now Idaho.  Stock up on the TP folks.    Hope you guys are all doing OK.

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22 minutes ago, sactowndog said:

It’s not him whose logic is off.  The basis of Libertarianism is you should be free to do what you like as long as it does impact others.   Libertarianism is not anarchy and you often cross that line.
 

In the time of a pandemic approaching others who may well be at risk puts them at risk and is the opposite of libertarianism as the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness is the most fundamental right of all.   
 

Here is Cato’s view

https://www.cato.org/blog/libertarianism-coronavirus-pandemic

Cato represents one brand of libertarianism. There are plenty of anarchists who essentially function as libertarians. 

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It is just going to get worse.  The Administration has shown that it is incapable of dealing with any real crisis, even when having adequate warnings.  

What, exactly, did the Administration do after it received this report: https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Mitigating-the-Impact-of-Pandemic-Influenza-through-Vaccine-Innovation.pdf

Nothing except try to get Michael Flynn's sentence low.  That was the only priority. 

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3 minutes ago, sactowndog said:

True because there is no anarchist party, the libertarian party is the closest alternative.

As a fan of paradoxes, an anarchist party would be a bit much even for me.

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Planning is an exercise of power, and in a modern state much real power is suffused with boredom. The agents of planning are usually boring; the planning process is boring; the implementation of plans is always boring. In a democracy boredom works for bureaucracies and corporations as smell works for skunk. It keeps danger away. Power does not have to be exercised behind the scenes. It can be open. The audience is asleep. The modern world is forged amidst our inattention.

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3 hours ago, Billings said:

Good article on modeling the hospitalization and death rate in Cali and Washington.  Seems the governors were smart to shut it down so early.

 

https://www.kcra.com/article/researchers-predict-california-peak-covid-19-cases/31984677

According to this model Nevada is going to be short 60 ICU beds. Given the transient nature of Nevada, that’s probably not bad.  I had a friend who knows somebody that works for the local hospital in Reno and they’re expecting the peak in deaths in the next 6-7 days   

https://covid19.healthdata.org/projections

thelawlorfaithful, on 31 Dec 2012 - 04:01 AM, said:One of the rules I live by: never underestimate a man in a dandy looking sweater

 

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5 minutes ago, mugtang said:

According to this model Nevada is going to be short 60 ICU beds. Given the transient nature of Nevada, that’s probably not bad.  I had a friend who knows somebody that works for the local hospital in Reno and they’re expecting the peak in deaths in the next 6-7 days   

https://covid19.healthdata.org/projections

Latest I have seen from our Emergency Mgr is Nevada is expected to peak on 4/20.

That's so Nevada btw. :hookah:

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