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This is a better chart.  New York is having trouble but other hot spots, CA & WA appear to have “flattened the curve”. At least a bit

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edit: this is deaths not infections.  My bad. 
 

thelawlorfaithful, on 31 Dec 2012 - 04:01 AM, said:One of the rules I live by: never underestimate a man in a dandy looking sweater

 

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4 minutes ago, Fort Fun said:

 

Exactly. Because everyone with alcohol related issues goes to the hospital at the same time in March. Totally the same thing. (Ban St Patrick's Day, save the world?) 

It is not the same thing.  It is also not the damn Black Death.  Perspective is super necessary, especially given that there is the possibility that this becomes seasonal or flairs up in some other way.  

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Bottomline

Doing nothing would result in the healthcare system collapsing under the tsunami of cases that would hit in a very short time. The economy would still tank.

 

So the choice is to either have it collapse without control and tens of thousands dying or attempt to slow the onslaught and mitigate the damage both in terms of the economy and loss of life.

You think things are bad now? Would be far worse had we done nothing. This isn't the flu. It's ignorance to try and equate this with the flu or car accidents or you name it. WTF is it going to take to get through to people that the really destructive part of this equation is the impact on our healthcare system??!!

It would collapse. You'd be stacking bodies like cord wood. Healthcare workers without proper PPE would become I'll and many would die leaving the system in even worse shape, unable to handle even the day to day cases?

 

So yeah, it sucks. But the alternative is even worse.

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8 minutes ago, BYUcougfan said:

It is not the same thing.  It is also not the damn Black Death.  Perspective is super necessary, especially given that there is the possibility that this becomes seasonal or flairs up in some other way.  

oh this is not going away until we have a vaccine or an effective treatment. Hot spots will continue for a year at least and travel will not be back to normal for a long time

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27 minutes ago, Fort Fun said:

Long time no talk. Hope everyone is doing fine. 

To quell everyone's fears a little bit, CSU's Infectious Disease Research Center is working on the vaccine. So if you think TCSUF is bad now, just wait until we save the +++++ing world. 

 

hmm, minutes after troll derby reappears so do you. :hmmm:

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1 minute ago, BYUcougfan said:

It is not the same thing.  It is also not the damn Black Death.  Perspective is super necessary, especially given that there is the possibility that this becomes seasonal or flairs up in some other way.  

 

Mt Sinai West, Midtown Mahattan, New York, NY - Beds filling up with a new wave of patients experiencing respiratory issues. Doctors and nurses running low on masks, face shields, and gowns. Nurses resort to covering themselves in trash bags. Doctors convene to make plans for the unthinkable, choosing who gets care and who doesn't. Word begins circulating around the floor that one of their colleagues has just passed away from the very virus they're trying to fight. Things look bleak until....

BYUcougfan crashes into the ICU! "EVERYBODY LISTEN UP!" 

Doctors, nurses, dead people; all stop in their tracks. Everyone hanging on BYUCougfan's words. 

"More people died from the Black Death than coronavirus! Let's keep this in perspective!"

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25 minutes ago, Fort Fun said:

 

Mt Sinai West, Midtown Mahattan, New York, NY - Beds filling up with a new wave of patients experiencing respiratory issues. Doctors and nurses running low on masks, face shields, and gowns. Nurses resort to covering themselves in trash bags. Doctors convene to make plans for the unthinkable, choosing who gets care and who doesn't. Word begins circulating around the floor that one of their colleagues has just passed away from the very virus they're trying to fight. Things look bleak until....

BYUcougfan crashes into the ICU! "EVERYBODY LISTEN UP!" 

Doctors, nurses, dead people; all stop in their tracks. Everyone hanging on BYUCougfan's words. 

"More people died from the Black Death than coronavirus! Let's keep this in perspective!"

Perspective is important because people post stupid stuff like this.  Covid could be with us for a long time.  We can't think that End Times are upon us every time it flairs up in the future.  It is not good.  It is a killer.  It is not existential to humanity.  It is a tragedy to the families and friends it impacts.  It is new, but it is not killing us off more quickly than many other things we have learned to live with and adapt to.  We can't keep repeating our hair-on-fire response.

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1 hour ago, mugtang said:

This is a better chart.  New York is having trouble but other hot spots, CA & WA appear to have “flattened the curve”. At least a bit

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edit: this is deaths not infections.  My bad. 
 

It appears both infection rate and deaths flatten out after about thirty days. I suspect we will see the same in the US. We have another 2-3 weeks to go. Even after that there will be a transition period back to normalcy. 

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11 minutes ago, BYUcougfan said:

Perspective is important because people post stupid stuff like this.  Covid could be with us for a long time.  We can't think that End Times are upon us every time it flairs up in the future.  It is not good.  It is a killer.  It is not existential to humanity.  It is a tragedy to the families and friends it impacts.  It is new, but it is not killing us off more quickly than many other things we have learned to live with and adapt to.  We can't keep repeating our hair-on-fire response.

My point is, the only statistics that really matter at this point are ICU beds, ventilators, and medical equipment. (When testing is more widespead, those statistics will matter too.) This goes for areas that are currently hot spots or areas that may become hot spots. Conversely, statistics like death totals for car accidents, moose attacks, and the Spanish Flu are completely irrelevant and bring nothing into perspective. 

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32 minutes ago, mysfit said:

How many died OVER WHAT PERIOD OF TIME?

 

Apologies 

I'm a bit short tempered today. Insomnia and I haven't slept in 30 hours.

I posted this in the positive news thread but it seems like you need a little pick me up from your fellow Americans.

 

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13 minutes ago, Fort Fun said:

My point is, the only statistics that really matter at this point are ICU beds, ventilators, and medical equipment. (When testing is more widespead, those statistics will matter too.) This goes for areas that are currently hot spots or areas that may become hot spots. Conversely, statistics like death totals for car accidents, moose attacks, and the Spanish Flu are completely irrelevant and bring nothing into perspective. 

They are not relevant for people laying in an ICU bed today.  They are very relevant as we figure out how much treasure we dedicate to this going forward.

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2 minutes ago, renoskier said:

What did happen?

The woman forgot she was on conference call on her phone and got up to use the bathroom. It was the girl on the far left. 

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in Utah we've had a couple of days now where new cases are declining.  Probably too early to indicate we've flattened the curve, but it appears social distancing is working.

Utah 402 total cases, 7700+ tested, but only a single death so far.

 

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