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6 minutes ago, #1Stunner said:

  Boise fans dislike the Big West.

The BW likes Boise. Especially the part where the MW ponies up Boise's exit fees.

"We don't have evidence but, we have lot's of theories."

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4 minutes ago, Spaztecs said:

The BW likes Boise. Especially the part where the MW ponies up Boise's exit fees.

To think... If Boise were to join the Big West, their San Diego rivalry would switch from SDSU to UCSD....

Boise State Broncos vs University of California San Diego Tritons rivalry?

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The only thing that makes the WCC or BIG WEST feasible is that both conferences have schools in San Diego.

San Diego is probably the best city in California.  It isn't even close!!!

Proud that BYU gets to play USD every year.  San Diego / San Diegans are amazing!

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12 minutes ago, boisewitha-s said:

Bsu has already been invited. 

When ?

Six Years ago ?

I can't help but feel the AAC ain't going down that road again.

 

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GYM Sizes:

BW:

Cal Poly 3032

Fullerton 4000

Northridge 2400

Hawaii 10,300

Long Beach 5000

Davis 7600

Irvine 5000

Riverside 3200

UCSB 5600

WCC:

BYU 19,000

Pacific 6150

Gonzaga 6000

LMU 4100

Portland 4850

Saint Marys 3500

San Diego 5100

San Francisco 5300

Santa Clara 4500

Pepperdine 3400

MWC:

Boise 12,500

CSU 8800

Fresno 15,500

Nevada 11,500

New Mexico 15,400

SDSU 12,400

SJSU 5000

UNLV 18,800

Utah State 10,300

Wyoming 15,000

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It's not the size of your gym, its what you do with it that counts.

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This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.

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17 minutes ago, Spaztecs said:

When ?

Six Years ago ?

I can't help but feel the AAC ain't going down that road again.

 

Six years ago and when UConn announced leaving. There is a reason they haven’t offered any of the schools you mentioned. They would love for bsu football to fill their 12th spot. It’s an open invitation until they are forced to add someone. 

"but we only lost to Stanford by 3."

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3 minutes ago, boisewitha-s said:

Six years ago and when UConn announced leaving. There is a reason they haven’t offered any of the schools you mentioned. They would love for bsu football to fill their 12th spot. It’s an open invitation until they are forced to add someone. 

What do you see as the upside to moving football to the AAC and basketball to some other conference?

Boise gets a 1.8 million dollar bonus in the MW and depending how the litigation flows possibly considerably more.  

The get to keep their olympic sports in a solid mid major conference and won't have to pay subsidies which would seem likely if you go to the Big West.

Again, based upon how the suit goes you could be on the hook for fairly substantial exit fees from the MW.  Will the AAC let you have a separate deal with ESPN for your home games?

 

I do think there is some upside to be gleaned, though.

4 conference football games back east will give you more exposure to the east coast press.

At the top the AAC has some really good football programs who should remain really good for awhile.

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2 minutes ago, nvspuds said:

What do you see as the upside to moving football to the AAC and basketball to some other conference?

Boise gets a 1.8 million dollar bonus in the MW and depending how the litigation flows possibly considerably more.  

The get to keep their olympic sports in a solid mid major conference and won't have to pay subsidies which would seem likely if you go to the Big West.

Again, based upon how the suit goes you could be on the hook for fairly substantial exit fees from the MW.  Will the AAC let you have a separate deal with ESPN for your home games?

 

I do think there is some upside to be gleaned, though.

4 conference football games back east will give you more exposure to the east coast press.

At the top the AAC has some really good football programs who should remain really good for awhile.

I would rather bsu stay but this shit going on now will probably change things with the admin. Bsu said no thanks when UConn announced they were leaving but that was before the mw decided to break the tv contract. 

"but we only lost to Stanford by 3."

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46 minutes ago, boisewitha-s said:

I would rather bsu stay but this shit going on now will probably change things with the admin. Bsu said no thanks when UConn announced they were leaving but that was before the mw decided to break the tv contract. 

It should be noted that demanding more than 1.8 million is also breaking a contract

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3 hours ago, RSF said:

Doesnt matter how open he's been.  What he wants is what the Big 12 wanted.  Which was rejected. When the Big 10 proposed the restrictions, that's when the measure passed.  He might get the support of the Big 12, but he would need 3-4 of the P5 conferences to get it passed.

 

https://www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/11321551/ncaa-board-votes-allow-autonomy-five-power-conferences

A new 80-member voting panel, which will include 15 current players, will determine autonomous policies for the five leagues. The power conferences will also carry more voting power on general NCAA matters. Athletic directors will have a much larger representation than before, when presidents mostly controlled the system. Rice's Leebron called the new governance structure a "shift of responsibility" and a "huge vote of confidence" in the athletic directors and players.

Major conferences will still have to agree on issues; to pass a rule requires either a 60 percent majority of the 80-member panel plus three of the five power conferences or a simple majority plus four of the five leagues.

The Big10 has talked openly about eliminating divisions since that vote---so its unlikely their stance is exactly the same as it was in 2016.  The ACC always wanted more flexibility in the CCG process (they actually prefer complete deregulation).  The Big10 would probably not vote against it---and the Pac12 would have little reason to oppose it.  I suspect a rule change allowing conferences (of 10 or more members) a reasonable path to a divisionless CCG has a high probability of passing--especially if the rule's structure is crafted as a colaborative effort with 3 or more P5's.    

That said, the AAC has indicated it would prefer to add another member and stay with its 2 division format---IF a quality #12 was available.  

 

Big10 Considering Eliminating Divisions 

https://www.si.com/college/2018/12/06/jim-delany-big-ten-divisions-realignment-playoff

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41 minutes ago, boisewitha-s said:

It should be noted that wanting to negotiate something isn’t the same as voting to end a contract. 

The re-entry contact gives Boise 1.8 million per year in a bonus

To get more than that Boise and the MW would have to agree to re=open the existing contract to make the change.  That would void the previous agreement.  It would be a new contract.

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3 minutes ago, nvspuds said:

The re-entry contact gives Boise 1.8 million per year in a bonus

To get more than that Boise and the MW would have to agree to re=open the existing contract to make the change.  That would void the previous agreement.  It would be a new contract.

Did the MWC violate the contract when they came to Boise in 2016 to negotiate that amount?

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1 hour ago, CaffeinatedCoog said:

The Big10 has talked openly about eliminating divisions since that vote---so its unlikely their stance is exactly the same as it was in 2016.  The ACC always wanted more flexibility in the CCG process (they actually prefer complete deregulation).  The Big10 would probably not vote against it---and the Pac12 would have little reason to oppose it.  I suspect a rule change allowing conferences (of 10 or more members) a reasonable path to a divisionless CCG has a high probability of passing--especially if the rule's structure is crafted as a colaborative effort with 3 or more P5's.    

That said, the AAC has indicated it would prefer to add another member and stay with its 2 division format---IF a quality #12 was available.  

 

Big10 Considering Eliminating Divisions 

https://www.si.com/college/2018/12/06/jim-delany-big-ten-divisions-realignment-playoff

No, they didnt.  They talked openly about eliminating East and West.  They are considering realigning the divisions (and continue to), which they have done before. 

 

The Pac 12 (got them mixed up with the ACC for some reason) was already against it, as was the SEC. The current restrictions got them and the Big 10 on board.  That's enough to block it.

 

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/college/big-ten/2019/07/19/big-ten-division-realignment-talk-picks-up-steam-amid-easts-dominance/1776640001/

 

 

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This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.

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9 minutes ago, OrediggerPoke said:

Well, there is one thing that I have learned from reading the terrible legal insight and advice from some of you - - there is absolutely value to a law degree and legal experience.  I guess that is why good lawyers can command the money that they do :lol:

Most here are attorneys who dabble in athletic administration and/or are executives from major cable companies. On the side they find time to mow their parents lawn when they exit the basement in the summer months. 

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