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Game Thread: Impeachment Trial

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7 hours ago, toonkee said:

I fully realize Bernie and Trump are actually born of the same anti-establishment populism, and for the record am very nervous about a possibility of a Sanders presidency with a dem controlled congress, however the nose holding required to defend Trump is orders of magnitude beyond Bernie, or anything typically partisan. Trump's digustingness, incompetence and lying, to this level, are not normal in the presidency. 

What makes you think the Dems will control the Senate?  It seems highly unlikely as they will lose Jones in Alabama.    They don’t have enough contested states to have a chance to close the gap.  

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9 hours ago, thelawlorfaithful said:

He’s a very stupid stable genius? :shrug: That’s not news but it’s not clear to me he understands even now he could have just fired her.

Just listening to him makes me wonder if there has ever been a previous President that is remotely as clueless and dumb as Trump.  If he didn't come from money he would be selling cars on a car lot.  Not a knock against car salesman, but holy shit is Trump dumb.  He would be good at selling cars though because he could lie to people all day long.

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2 hours ago, sactowndog said:

What makes you think the Dems will control the Senate?  It seems highly unlikely as they will lose Jones in Alabama.    They don’t have enough contested states to have a chance to close the gap.  

I don't. I was just musing that i wouldn't want Bernie completely unchecked.

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1 hour ago, Wyobraska said:

Just listening to him makes me wonder if there has ever been a previous President that is remotely as clueless and dumb as Trump.  If he didn't come from money he would be selling cars on a car lot.  Not a knock against car salesman, but holy shit is Trump dumb.  He would be good at selling cars though because he could lie to people all day long.

Clueless I’ll agree with. I don’t know of a President that knows less about the issues that arise by doing the job. I’m pretty sure all of them were more interested in learning about all of those things than Trump by many orders of magnitude. He is not a serious person in that way.

But dumb though? I know dumb people. I’m an incredible idiot myself more often than not. I know several people I’d be more comfortable sitting in the Oval Office, that if given $100 million tomorrow would be near destitute in a matter of years. Whatever Trump is...he is not that. He doesn’t take in or retain information in ways that are familiar, with myself, people I know, or almost every politician I can think of. I don’t think he’s dumb. He’s not smart in most of the ways I think are important for the office, but he didn’t stupidly luck into conning everybody. If he did anyone could do it, but they can’t.

We’re all sitting in the dugout. Thinking we should pitch. How you gonna throw a shutout when all you do is bitch.

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2 hours ago, retrofade said:

That's one... three more to go. We're looking at you, Murkowski, Collins, and Gardner. 

They already made their excuse why they won't. Schiff was "rude".

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13 hours ago, Wyobraska said:

Just listening to him makes me wonder if there has ever been a previous President that is remotely as clueless and dumb as Trump.  If he didn't come from money he would be selling cars on a car lot.  Not a knock against car salesman, but holy shit is Trump dumb.  He would be good at selling cars though because he could lie to people all day long.

My favorite Trump quote was when told people not to vote for Hillary because "she would be under investigation from Day 1."

"We don't have evidence but, we have lot's of theories."

Americans Mayor

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21 hours ago, thelawlorfaithful said:

Clueless I’ll agree with. I don’t know of a President that knows less about the issues that arise by doing the job. I’m pretty sure all of them were more interested in learning about all of those things than Trump by many orders of magnitude. He is not a serious person in that way.

But dumb though? I know dumb people. I’m an incredible idiot myself more often than not. I know several people I’d be more comfortable sitting in the Oval Office, that if given $100 million tomorrow would be near destitute in a matter of years. Whatever Trump is...he is not that. He doesn’t take in or retain information in ways that are familiar, with myself, people I know, or almost every politician I can think of. I don’t think he’s dumb. He’s not smart in most of the ways I think are important for the office, but he didn’t stupidly luck into conning everybody. If he did anyone could do it, but they can’t.

He's just a sociopath. He cons people because he can behave normally in self-serving deceit and without conscience. It's simply natural to him. Most people can't even understand or comprehend it so they can mistake it for ability. 

He's just a dumb sociopath.

https://www.cnn.com/videos/business/2020/01/23/trump-elon-musk-davos-orig.cnn-business/video/playlists/business-davos/

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4 hours ago, sactowndog said:

Right even though people who have read early copies of Bolton’s book says Trump directly tied aid to the investigation.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/26/politics/bolton-book-ukraine-aid-trump/index.html

And just like that the dem star witness writes a book and creates a huge conflict of interest which undermines any credibility he had.  Good job.  The case for impeachment is already getting destroyed in the senate and now this.

       

 

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Is it over yet? Has the next investigation started? Only nine more months until the American people decide if Trump is actually guilty. The Dems need to start working toward the 2020 election. Their odds are a lot better than the impeachment proceedings.
 

Oh crap, I forgot the impeachment hearings are about trying to win the 2020 election. If I was ever going to buy a dog for protection, it would be a Democrat pit bull. They’re vicious sobs. 

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8 hours ago, soupslam1 said:

Is it over yet? Has the next investigation started? Only nine more months until the American people decide if Trump is actually guilty. The Dems need to start working toward the 2020 election. Their odds are a lot better than the impeachment proceedings.
 

Oh crap, I forgot the impeachment hearings are about trying to win the 2020 election. If I was ever going to buy a dog for protection, it would be a Democrat pit bull. They’re vicious sobs. 

Well given you fully support Trump I’m guessing you like vicious sobs.

what an election we might face.  Bernie the socialist and Trump the Facist.   

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Yes, because it's Schiff that has the ability to release the IG report. You know, the IG report that originated within the Executive Branch, and where he has declassification authority. 

Just more lies and obfuscation from the dipshit in chief. 

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5 minutes ago, sactowndog said:

Well given you fully support Trump I’m guessing you like vicious sobs.

what an election we might face.  Bernie the socialist and Trump the Facist.   

God help us all.

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2 hours ago, sactowndog said:

Well given you fully support Trump I’m guessing you like vicious sobs.

what an election we might face.  Bernie the socialist and Trump the Facist.   

Bernie and Trump are both populists that appeal to those looking to upend the establishment and status quo. Sure it's easy to look at differences in policies,  but maybe historians will look back and view these guys as two sides of the same coin. We all need to pay more attention to this "coin" and figure out what it means for us all.

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