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When elitist multimillionaires attack billionaires

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2 minutes ago, renoskier said:

How about a little quote/paraphrase :shrug:

Here's the part pertinent to what tops is talking about.

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Warren didn’t name any fellow Democrat on Tuesday, but has for months has slammed South Bend, Indiana, Mayor Pete Buttigieg and former Vice President Joe Biden for relying too heavily on fundraisers with big, powerful donors. She’s also accused ex-New York City mayor and billionaire Michael Bloomberg of trying to buy the election.

Warren told the Boston crowd: “The billionaires know which candidates for president are on their side.”

“Many corporate executives and career politicians and billionaires on both sides of the aisle want to keep their influence and their wealth. And they are already deep in the fight to do so,” Warren said, arguing that Washington is too controlled by lobbyists and fossil fuel companies that have a “death grip on our planet.”

 

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3 minutes ago, renoskier said:

How about a little quote/paraphrase :shrug:

Read the AP article. Kinda funny criticism coming from a multimillionaire who had been living in an elite Cambridge neighborhood before moving to Washington. 

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3 minutes ago, retrofade said:

Here's the part pertinent to what tops is talking about.

 

She rubs shoulders with the uber wealthy on a daily basis. Her criticism of Pete Buttigieg is laughable. 

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Are corporations and wealthy donors dumping money into pacs for her? 

If so she's a hypocrite. If not, she's not.

A millionaire can still criticize the influence of big money in politics, as long as she isn't taking it, right?

 

 

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58 minutes ago, toonkee said:

Are corporations and wealthy donors dumping money into pacs for her? 

If so she's a hypocrite. If not, she's not.

A millionaire can still criticize the influence of big money in politics, as long as she isn't taking it, right?

 

 

That's my understanding. I believe she has taken a pledge. The thing I'm unsure of is how far do I trust people to not break a pledge. What if they promise to keep everything the same without taking any bribe?

 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, toonkee said:

Are corporations and wealthy donors dumping money into pacs for her? 

If so she's a hypocrite. If not, she's not.

A millionaire can still criticize the influence of big money in politics, as long as she isn't taking it, right?

 

 

https://www.opensecrets.org/2020-presidential-race/contributors?id=N00033492

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1 hour ago, BSUTOP25 said:

Still hard to discern exactly what is what. Most of the contributions are shown to be from individuals in those orgs. I mean when you donate you have to tell your occupation and employer so it's not surprising that tons of Google employees are donating to Bernie or Warren.

But still, to your point, she appears to be splitting hairs at best.

I liked Obama when he was running in his first primary. Said all the stuff I wanted to hear about about who was donating money to his campaign etc. Said he wouldn't take pac money in the general. He did not keep that promise. Lapped all that sweet DNC money right away after getting past Clinton.  Fake rebel.

I generally like Liz but she is flailing. She lost her way in this campaign and it's proving difficult to find a path back to the top.

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Can you call someone elite if they're writing bills to protect consumers, teachers and students?

I think if you're taking money from the elite to further their causes then you're by definition in the pockets of the elite right? Even a dummy like me can see that.

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39 minutes ago, toonkee said:

Still hard to discern exactly what is what. Most of the contributions are shown to be from individuals in those orgs. I mean when you donate you have to tell your occupation and employer so it's not surprising that tons of Google employees are donating to Bernie or Warren.

But still, to your point, she appears to be splitting hairs at best.

I liked Obama when he was running in his first primary. Said all the stuff I wanted to hear about about who was donating money to his campaign etc. Said he wouldn't take pac money in the general. He did not keep that promise. Lapped all that sweet DNC money right away after getting past Clinton.  Fake rebel.

I generally like Liz but she is flailing. She lost her way in this campaign and it's proving difficult to find a path back to the top.

It’s pretty much impossible to run a presidential campaign without money coming in from billionaires or corporations. And anyone who thinks she doesn’t run around in elite wealthy circles is delusional. For her to go after Biden and Buttigieg on this is ridiculous.

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6 hours ago, BSUTOP25 said:

It’s pretty much impossible to run a presidential campaign without money coming in from billionaires or corporations. And anyone who thinks she doesn’t run around in elite wealthy circles is delusional. For her to go after Biden and Buttigieg on this is ridiculous.

It’s why Buttigieg’s response was so good. He knew he had her when she tried to spring on him.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2019/09/09/us/politics/elizabeth-warren-2020.amp.html

On the highest floor of the tallest building in Boston, Senator Elizabeth Warren was busy collecting big checks from some of the city’s politically connected insiders. It was April 2018 and Ms. Warren, up for re-election, was at a breakfast fund-raiser hosted for her by John M. Connors Jr., one of the old-guard power brokers of Massachusetts.

Soon after, Ms. Warren was in Manhattan doing the same. There would be trips to Hollywood and Silicon Valley, Martha’s Vineyard and Philadelphia — all with fund-raisers on the agenda. She collected campaign funds at the private home of at least one California megadonor, and was hosted by another in Florida. She held finance events until two weeks before her all-but-assured re-election last November.

Then, early this year, Ms. Warren made a bold bet that would delight the left: She announced she was quitting this big-money circuit in the 2020 presidential primary, vowing not to attend private fund-raisers or dial up rich donors anymore. Admirers and activists praised her stand — but few noted the fact that she had built a financial cushion by pocketing big checks the years before.

The open secret of Ms. Warren’s campaign is that her big-money fund-raising through 2018 helped lay the foundation for her anti-big-money run for the presidency. Last winter and spring, she transferred $10.4 million in leftover funds from her 2018 Senate campaign to underwrite her 2020 run, a portion of which was raised from the same donor class she is now running against...

...Ms. Warren’s surplus Senate cash has undergirded two important elements of her 2020 run. She was able to invest early in a massive political organization — spending 87 cents of every dollar she raised in early 2019 — without fear of bankrupting her bid, and she had that financial backstop to lessen the risk of forgoing traditional fund-raisers...

...As the 2018 election neared, Ms. Warren’s big money was partly bankrolling an apparent 2020 apparatus in waiting. Ms. Warren said in late September last year that she would “take a hard look” at a White House run. Her Senate campaign notably aired zero television ads (as did Senator Kirsten Gillibrand of New York, ahead of her run). Some of the money that Ms. Warren did not stockpile went to strategic giveaways and investments, such as deploying staff in the early nominating states of Iowa and New Hampshire in 2018...

...So how much did the Senate money help Ms. Warren get a jump on her presidential rivals?

Here’s one way to look at it: As of the end of June, only five candidates besides Ms. Warren, out of two dozen Democratic hopefuls, had even raised more than $10.4 million, the amount of her Senate transfer.

We’re all sitting in the dugout. Thinking we should pitch. How you gonna throw a shutout when all you do is bitch.

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3 hours ago, Joe from WY said:

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Could easily sub out "Bernie Sanders" for "Elizabeth Warren" and get the same result.

Bernie at least isn’t a political hypocrite. He did build his fundraising apparatus through a legitimately grass roots effort. He’s been an utterly garbage legislator by any measure, but even a lazy socialist will become wealthy if they hold a six-figure paying seat in the national legislature for 30 years.

We’re all sitting in the dugout. Thinking we should pitch. How you gonna throw a shutout when all you do is bitch.

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49 minutes ago, thelawlorfaithful said:

Bernie at least isn’t a political hypocrite. He did build his fundraising apparatus through a legitimately grass roots effort. He’s been an utterly garbage legislator by any measure, but even a lazy socialist will become wealthy if they hold a six-figure paying seat in the national legislature for 30 years.

Some of the choices Bernie made as an ineffective legislator give him the credibility Joe lacks on certain issues though. Bernie voted against Iraq war and no clips of Bernie saying marriage is between a man and a woman, etc. So he's got that going for him, which is nice. Plus if he wins they'll have to make Larry David a full cast member on SNL.

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2 hours ago, toonkee said:

Some of the choices Bernie made as an ineffective legislator give him the credibility Joe lacks on certain issues though. Bernie voted against Iraq war and no clips of Bernie saying marriage is between a man and a woman, etc. So he's got that going for him, which is nice. Plus if he wins they'll have to make Larry David a full cast member on SNL.

Really worth it though?

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So... Not taking corporate pac $$ is being a lazy socialist hehe 

It's NOT standing up for your principals and having to legislate what your corporate donors want.

Stooooooooooooooooopid

 

 

 

 

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