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Changes to AAC contract may be coming

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23 minutes ago, RSF said:

still missing volleyball, soccer, softball, baseball...and whatever else makes up the 1000+ events that ESPN+ will be carrying each year, divided amongst the AAC schools.

 

This really isnt that hard.

 

 

 

 

Exactly.   Its not hard at all.  The contract is for 45 events per school in 2020.  Eventually, it will be about 80 or so events per school when the contract ramps up to full production.  So, $600K---assuming there are no economies of scale. I suspect it will be less than this because FCS schools doing the same number of events do it for around $300K.    Furthermore---lets keep in mind that many of these events are already being produced and streamed for the schools "All Access" websites (baseball, womens basketball, softball, etc)--so your really only looking at the difference in the cost of streaming the game for All-Access and the cost of a ESPN-Plus level production.     

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17 minutes ago, Wyobraska said:

Have you watched some of the broadcasts on ESPN+?  They are brutal.  Texas St vs Wyoming this year was bad.   ESPN really needs a minimum threshold to get an event on their platform or if they have one, they need to raise it 

Aresco AAC production cost savings memo:

1. first down indicator - instead of using a transparent graphic that you seen on normal football games, the AAC will save money by using:

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2. Replays - too expensive, AAC will adopt this instead:

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3. Stats graphics - we can't afford them.  Instead we'll get a tight camera shot on and write them in with a Sharpie

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4. Statistician for the broadcasters:

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*** this device can double as the camera in the booth

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AAC had already announced football broadcasts will be paid by the conference. 

 

They also produce many of the events espn+ will carry, like coaches shows. The rest will be production costs transferred from the American Digital Network that they currently run to ESPN.

 

Has there been any word back on the MW television deal? There is definitely the opportunity for ESPN to wedge itself in there, very similar to how they took down the old Big East, using Pitt/ACC to leverage what they wanted.

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Wyoming vs Texas State is different because a)ESPN isnt paying Texas State and the Sun Belt close to a billion over the next 12 years, and b) that broadcast was part of the Sun Belt's old TV deal.  Next year, the Sun Belt starts a new deal with ESPN.  500 events a year.  Your can be fairly sure a different standard will be required.

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20 hours ago, CaffeinatedCoog said:

 The ECU AD just told you what the costs were.  A little over $300K.   Ive been trying to tell you guys that the expenses to produce are nowhere near 2 million a year.   

Yeah but that doesn’t fit in the ‘AAC is bad’ paradigm that permeates the board

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7 hours ago, CaffeinatedCoog said:

Exactly.   Its not hard at all.  The contract is for 45 events per school in 2020.  Eventually, it will be about 80 or so events per school when the contract ramps up to full production.  So, $600K---assuming there are no economies of scale. I suspect it will be less than this because FCS schools doing the same number of events do it for around $300K.    

So the issue with math is a league wide thing.

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19 hours ago, halfmanhalfbronco said:

Why would ESPN want that?  They can own AFA's rights as a MWC member if they so choose.  That means they would already own AFA-Navy.  Outside that game AFA vs Boise more valuable than AFA vs any AAC team.  As is AFA vs Wyoming and CSU.

I have no idea what ESPN/CBS wants...what I do know is we'll do whatever they tell us to do.

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15 hours ago, UofMTigers said:

Yeah but that doesn’t fit in the ‘AAC is bad’ paradigm that permeates the board

Who has said the AAC is “bad?” Most of the negative AAC-related comments I read are about the P6 ridiculousness and the absolute dumbfukkery around the Tulane invite. But otherwise, most of the posters on here acknowledge the overall relative quality of the AAC.

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3 minutes ago, UofMTigers said:

be sure to watch Tulane in their Bowl Game.

Yes, that 6-6 record with an invite to the KY Penetration Bowl is certainly something to hang your hat on.

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5 minutes ago, BSUTOP25 said:

Yes, that 6-6 record with an invite to the KY Penetration Bowl is certainly something to hang your hat on.

our TV contract is vastly based on football...thus why Tulane/Willie Fritz making bowls is good for the AAC. And I wonder who happens to own those bowl games Tulane is playing in? oh yeah, ESPN...

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29 minutes ago, BSUTOP25 said:

Who has said the AAC is “bad?” Most of the negative AAC-related comments I read are about the P6 ridiculousness and the absolute dumbfukkery around the Tulane invite. But otherwise, most of the posters on here acknowledge the overall relative quality of the AAC.

Add 'reading comprehension issues' to the whole math problem...

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On 12/13/2019 at 1:09 AM, halfmanhalfbronco said:

Why would ESPN want that?  They can own AFA's rights as a MWC member if they so choose.  That means they would already own AFA-Navy.  Outside that game AFA vs Boise more valuable than AFA vs any AAC team.  As is AFA vs Wyoming and CSU.

That's not true and you know it.  Boise draws at a Tulsa level currently.  Now of course it would go up with the change in conference but let's not lie to ourselves about AF vs Boise value relative to the other schools in the AAC.  

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People conveniently forget that ESPN is paying for football production, which not only covers the annual expense but also gets the schools equipment that didn't already have it-though I believe most did already.  The annual cost is minimal, if it weren't then you'd never see a MAC, Sunbelt, MW, CUSA, FCS game on tv moving forward.  We all know that won't happen.  It's a baseless argument a select few took up here in an attempt to downgrade the AAC deal in their own estimation which in itself is dumb as MW fans should hope for any non-p5 success if they value their own continued existence.  

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On 12/12/2019 at 6:26 PM, 1066 said:

Chris Gardner related the following about cost for AAC to produce sports under the new contract:


'East Carolina athletics director Jon Gilbert said each broadcast will cost the athletic department around $6,500-$7,500 to hire announcers and a production crew. Multiplied by 45, that’s more than $300,000 annually spent on broadcasting games...'

 

NOT the 2 million $ our friend #1 Stunner suggested.

Also it appears that ESPN is putting pressure on the AAC to add a 12 member when UConn departs. Otherwise they may make changes to the contract. The changes if they occur are unspecified but my guess is a possible reduction of income if the AAC stays at 11 members.

 

 

Me kinda filling in the blanks, but AAC Commish Aresco basically sounds like it's good riddance to UConn football & conference is better off as a football power w/o them moving forward...
Said they're looking for a 12th team, strong football brand, even FB-only#SBJIAF

There wouldn't be a reduction of income, just taking out the UConn share.  I'd be fine with that vs adding a member that could water things down.  If Aresco is worth his weight then he'd successfully argue that UConn was worth less than the average share because they were and hold onto some of that cash flow and redistribute it to the schools for a slight raise.  

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1 hour ago, Did I hear a WOOSH? said:

That's not true and you know it.  Boise draws at a Tulsa level currently.  Now of course it would go up with the change in conference but let's not lie to ourselves about AF vs Boise value relative to the other schools in the AAC.  

Yes, it is.  Boise is a far bigger draw year to year than any AAC team.  Would UCF draw more than 80k at 10:30 PM Eastern?  Doubt it.

 

Boise is far and away the premier G5 program, not even a close second.  Boise is worth roughly what any other two AAC schools combined are worth.

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37 minutes ago, halfmanhalfbronco said:

Yes, it is.  Boise is a far bigger draw year to year than any AAC team.  Would UCF draw more than 80k at 10:30 PM Easter?  Doubt it.

 

Boise is far and away the premier G5 program, not even a close second.  Boise is worth roughly what any other two AAC schools combined are worth.

Based on what? Not anything tangible. 

You aren't talking BITS right? UCF gets more than 80k viewers in Orlando alone, not even the state.  They're kind of a big deal.  Let's not diverge into conversations you can't handle though.  The point is that Boise pulls about the same tv viewership as Tulsa.  While it would be higher in the AAC, let's not get it twisted that  Boise isn't a very very small market.  

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50 minutes ago, Did I hear a WOOSH? said:

Based on what? Not anything tangible. 

You aren't talking BITS right? UCF gets more than 80k viewers in Orlando alone, not even the state.  They're kind of a big deal.  Let's not diverge into conversations you can't handle though.  The point is that Boise pulls about the same tv viewership as Tulsa.  While it would be higher in the AAC, let's not get it twisted that  Boise isn't a very very small market.  

Nah, Boise kicks off at 10:30 to 11:00 Eastern.  There is no AAC team that would draw even close to those some ratings at that kick off time.  Heck, only a few Pac teams do as well when factoring in kickoff time and channel.

 

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3 minutes ago, halfmanhalfbronco said:

Nah, Boise kicks off at 10:30 to 11:00 Eastern.  There is no AAC team that would draw even close to those some ratings at that kick off time.  Heck, only a few Pac teams do as well when factoring in kickoff time and channel.

 

Plus, that’s when East Coast SportsCenter starts. 

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