nvspuds Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 It didn't sound like Harsin wanted Thompson to promote the MW..He wants Thompson to promote Boise alone...Boise messed up coming back to the MW..Nobody to blame but themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crixus Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 I've got a gut feeling that Washington will beat you guys in the Las Vegas bowl. Since it's Petersen's last game as their head coach, I think the Huskies will be pumped up to send him out with a win. But I hope you win because you're representing the Mountain West. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoiseStateOfMind Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 17 minutes ago, nvspuds said: It didn't sound like Harsin wanted Thompson to promote the MW..He wants Thompson to promote Boise alone...Boise messed up coming back to the MW..Nobody to blame but themselves. Of course Harsin's focused on the team he's coaching, but Hair did nothing to promote Air Force or Hawaii either. The former is especially bad because Air Force should have been ranked in the CFP by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slapdad Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 15 minutes ago, BoiseStateOfMind said: Of course Harsin's focused on the team he's coaching, but Hair did nothing to promote Air Force or Hawaii either. The former is especially bad because Air Force should have been ranked in the CFP by now. How do you know that? None of that plays out in public and you have no idea what Hair did or didn't do to promote anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rofl_copter_dos Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Hair sucks, but this conversation and thread don't exist if Bachemeier doesn't get hurt, and sometimes them's the breaks. And the reality is while the MWC had a large chunk of P5 victories the advanced metrics (S&P+, FPI, etc) very definitively had the AAC in front as the better conference, unlike 2018. And the committee absolutely weights that heavily. IIRC their analytics #s are from Sportsource....but yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boise fan Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 18 minutes ago, Slapdad said: How do you know that? None of that plays out in public and you have no idea what Hair did or didn't do to promote anyone. Isn't the point of promotion to make it public? Aresco seems to be doing just that. Even ESPN commentators are mentioning the "P6" bullchit. What has hair done? No one knows because his position is to "let the teams speak for themselves" or words to that affect. It isn't working. Time to send him packing and get a better conference commish. BCS is to Football what Fox News is to Journalism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuwanHWolv Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 hour ago, crixus said: I've got a gut feeling that Washington will beat you guys in the Las Vegas bowl. Since it's Petersen's last game as their head coach, I think the Huskies will be pumped up to send him out with a win. But I hope you win because you're representing the Mountain West. Good luck. Exactly. Playing a mediocre Washington team is a disaster scenario for the conference. Washington players are going to fight for their coach and - if they torch MWC Champion Boise - that will be an awful statement on the SOS of the league (and of Boise as a viable alternative to a 2-win Cincinnati) which won’t help future NY6 selections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoiseStateOfMind Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 59 minutes ago, Slapdad said: How do you know that? None of that plays out in public and you have no idea what Hair did or didn't do to promote anyone. Whatever he's doing clearly isn't working compared to the AAC's approach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slapdad Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, BoiseStateOfMind said: Whatever he's doing clearly isn't working compared to the AAC's approach. Seems to me like they're playing better on the field....that's what they're doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renoskier Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 10 minutes ago, BoiseStateOfMind said: Whatever he's doing clearly isn't working compared to the AAC's approach. Wait, do we like the "P6" promotion now? Other than performing better on the field than the MWC, what's "working" better for the AAC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slapdad Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 43 minutes ago, Boise fan said: Isn't the point of promotion to make it public? Aresco seems to be doing just that. Even ESPN commentators are mentioning the "P6" bullchit. What has hair done? No one knows because his position is to "let the teams speak for themselves" or words to that affect. It isn't working. Time to send him packing and get a better conference commish. Have you heard any pitches between conference commissioners from any conference and bowl representatives? Not all promotion takes place on a national level or in the media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tailingpermit Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Sounds like this may be grounds for termination. #FIREHARSIN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdgaucho Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 40 minutes ago, renoskier said: Wait, do we like the "P6" promotion now? Other than performing better on the field than the MWC, what's "working" better for the AAC? No sweetheart deal for any of its members? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sofork Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 I never hear Thompson out there promoting the MWC. Maybe I missed something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pelado Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Boise fan said: Isn't the point of promotion to make it public? Aresco seems to be doing just that. Even ESPN commentators are mentioning the "P6" bullchit. What has hair done? No one knows because his position is to "let the teams speak for themselves" or words to that affect. It isn't working. Time to send him packing and get a better conference commish. Wrong. It's well past time to fire Thompson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWC Tex Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 5 minutes ago, sofork said: I never hear Thompson out there promoting the MWC. Maybe I missed something. Beginning of the season when we were winning against P5 schools before the MW started losing to AAC teams and other OOC games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AztecSU Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Rofl_copter_dos said: Hair sucks, but this conversation and thread don't exist if Bachemeier doesn't get hurt, and sometimes them's the breaks. And the reality is while the MWC had a large chunk of P5 victories the advanced metrics (S&P+, FPI, etc) very definitively had the AAC in front as the better conference, unlike 2018. And the committee absolutely weights that heavily. IIRC their analytics #s are from Sportsource....but yeah. Thanks for sharing this info....maybe they use it with different weighting? http://sportsourceanalytics.com/rankingtool/?mode=advanced&winp=50&sos=50&scoringoffense=50&scoringdefense=50&rushingoffense=50&rushingdefense=50&passingoffense=50&passingdefense=50&totaloffense=50&totaldefense=50&turnovermargin=50&scoringoffenserel=50&scoringdefenserel=50&totaloffenserel=50&totaldefenserel=50&oppp=50&dppp=50&thirddownoffense=50&thirddowndefense=50&rankSubmit=Rank+Teams! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Ted Redemption Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 19 hours ago, halfmanhalfbronco said: Love Harsin. Best coach for Boise at this time, no doubt about it. Skip to around 9:45. He also implies that there is more the AD can be doing to support the program as well. Love it. Sounds to me like he’s laying the table to leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rofl_copter_dos Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, AztecSU said: Thanks for sharing this info....maybe they use it with different weighting? http://sportsourceanalytics.com/rankingtool/?mode=advanced&winp=50&sos=50&scoringoffense=50&scoringdefense=50&rushingoffense=50&rushingdefense=50&passingoffense=50&passingdefense=50&totaloffense=50&totaldefense=50&turnovermargin=50&scoringoffenserel=50&scoringdefenserel=50&totaloffenserel=50&totaldefenserel=50&oppp=50&dppp=50&thirddownoffense=50&thirddowndefense=50&rankSubmit=Rank+Teams! I'm not sure how the data is presented or couched to the committee, or even that those stats/weightings are the sum total of what is shown to them. I just remember reading somewhere that the info sheets/data they see in the meeting room, metris-wise is provided by SSA; it's not FPI, S&P+, Massey, etc. My guess is you're right and they tweak/weight it a certain way....but even as presented in that picture with the default weightings it's very notable that the AAC has, for instance, seven teams inside the top 50. No other G5 has more than two, and the MAC has just one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyobraska Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 7 hours ago, Boise fan said: Hair needs to be replaced because he represents the status quo for too long. And the champion of the MW deserves a better opponent/setting than a P5 5th place or worse. The MWC presidents need to stop being complacent and start talking - routinely - about the ridiculous way FBS is allowed to be run. If it's a league, it should be a league - top to bottom. Not this layered class bullshit. At least we're not in as bad a situation as the Sun Belt - their champion had a freaking banner year - finished ranked 20th, and will bowl against UAB. Ugh. Your reaction to UAB is the same reaction that every P5 school pretty much has to facing any G5 team in a bowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...