slappy Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 minute ago, Boise fan said: No not really. Just insight as to why the MW and its athletic departments are not breaking into tears about this. Boise really needs to handle their own PR and lobbying. Disagree with me if you want, but I agree with your coach and it was quite obvious this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boise fan Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 21 minutes ago, slappy said: No not really. Just insight as to why the MW and its athletic departments are not breaking into tears about this. Boise really needs to handle their own PR and lobbying. Disagree with me if you want, but I agree with your coach and it was quite obvious this year. Yes really. Other athletic departments recognize the value of BSU. The original deal Boise had has been modified, by the conference. Not our problem that you're still butt hurt. If the MWC wants to increase its brand value they need to continue winning against P5 teams like many did this year, and invest in their own programs. Hair needs to be replaced because he represents the status quo for too long. And the champion of the MW deserves a better opponent/setting than a P5 5th place or worse. The MWC presidents need to stop being complacent and start talking - routinely - about the ridiculous way FBS is allowed to be run. If it's a league, it should be a league - top to bottom. Not this layered class bullshit. At least we're not in as bad a situation as the Sun Belt - their champion had a freaking banner year - finished ranked 20th, and will bowl against UAB. Ugh. BCS is to Football what Fox News is to Journalism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AztecSU Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 When SDSU won the conf back to back they faced Cinci in Hawaii and then Houston in Las Vegas. Won both...but it's shameful that the conf champ doesn't have a P5 bowl opponent guaranteed and when we do it's a team with a record of 6-6 of 7-5 usually. The conf champ has had 10 or more wins every year since the CCG started, if Hair et al can't sell a better match up we should get new blood in and see if they can do better because it would be hard to do worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fowl Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Love this. Wish Harsin would go to the Rocky Long school of I don't give a damn and unload a bit more. In all honesty it wasn't Boise's fault. It was the fault of the other schools in the conference, namely SDSU. Had we had even a half decent offense we may not have lost a game or at most one game and it would have been a ranked 11-1 Boise vs a ranked 12-0/11-1 SDSU and the winner would have likely gotten the cotton bowl bid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renoskier Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 5 minutes ago, AztecSU said: When SDSU won the conf back to back they faced Cinci in Hawaii and then Houston in Las Vegas. Won both...but it's shameful that the conf champ doesn't have a P5 bowl opponent guaranteed and when we do it's a team with a record of 6-6 of 7-5 usually. The conf champ has had 10 or more wins every year since the CCG started, if Hair et al can't sell a better match up we should get new blood in and see if they can do better because it would be hard to do worse. This time every year it's the same things, a bunch of delusional fans bittching about shitty bowl tie ins and demanding something be done. How would you go about getting a better P5 opponent for any of the MWC bowl games. From a P5 perspective, what's in it for them? BTW, Washington, with a 7-5 record, is 4th in the Pac 12 this year. And as many times as someone mentions: "it's all about demographics", and everyone nods in agreement that they understand demographics, folks still complain. It's all about demographics! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffkills Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Harsin just said Hair needs to be fired because a 12-1 BSU got left out.. God bless him.. Hate to break to it us all, but Aresco > Hair ever single day, for ever. Dr. Bob would've been great, but Hair just doesn't doo anything, whatsoever. Besides announce that Gonzaga wouldn't be joining the MW before their camp even knew that was the case... I'm pretty sure, Hair pissed his pants and tried to call out the Zags for going for a money grab, but they were still considering best offers.. All time worst commish ever, and I hope he gets punched in the face today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AztecSU Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 hour ago, renoskier said: This time every year it's the same things, a bunch of delusional fans bittching about shitty bowl tie ins and demanding something be done. How would you go about getting a better P5 opponent for any of the MWC bowl games. From a P5 perspective, what's in it for them? BTW, Washington, with a 7-5 record, is 4th in the Pac 12 this year. And as many times as someone mentions: "it's all about demographics", and everyone nods in agreement that they understand demographics, folks still complain. It's all about demographics! UW was 5th/6th in the PAC, same record as ASU, didn't play head to head, they finished 3rd in the North with a losing conf record. Boise has had very good bowl tv ratings, with Fresno, SDSU, and AFA also drawing decent for their bowls. I'm not saying we should all play the best of the P5...I'm saying sending the top 3 MW schools to play MAC and Sunbelt schools with 7 and 8 wins reflects on a poor job of selling the quality of the top 3 bowl eligible teams in this conf year in year out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renoskier Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, AztecSU said: UW was 5th/6th in the PAC, same record as ASU, didn't play head to head, they finished 3rd in the North with a losing conf record. Boise has had very good bowl tv ratings, with Fresno, SDSU, and AFA also drawing decent for their bowls. I'm not saying we should all play the best of the P5...I'm saying sending the top 3 MW schools to play MAC and Sunbelt schools with 7 and 8 wins reflects on a poor job of selling the quality of the top 3 bowl eligible teams in this conf year in year out... I'd say they were tied for 4th with ASU and Cal. All 4-5 in conference, 7-5 overall. No shit, but it's the same thing every year. Our bowl tie-ins are what they are and no amount of bitching is going to change our western demographic situation. I just asked another poster, would you rather play a 7-5 P5 school or a 10-3 G5 school? Those are the choices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSUTOP25 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 12 hours ago, slappy said: A loss to byu really hurts programs chances to get a NY6 game. Better off losing a MW game. Worse than Temple Hard to disagree with you there. BYU was a bad loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nvspuds Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 51 minutes ago, Jeffkills said: Harsin just said Hair needs to be fired because a 12-1 BSU got left out.. God bless him.. Hate to break to it us all, but Aresco > Hair ever single day, for ever. Dr. Bob would've been great, but Hair just doesn't doo anything, whatsoever. Besides announce that Gonzaga wouldn't be joining the MW before their camp even knew that was the case... I'm pretty sure, Hair pissed his pants and tried to call out the Zags for going for a money grab, but they were still considering best offers.. All time worst commish ever, and I hope he gets punched in the face today. Firing Thompson won't make any difference. But I have exactly no problem with him getting canned. Still, just can't work up any sympathy for Boise and their horrible fate. They get the most money and the most tv appearances. Boise is a great program and built it all up on their own. Shoulda stayed in the AAC when you had the chance.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soupslam1 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 3 hours ago, slappy said: I don’t think anyone will feel sorry for Boise State. When you insist on deals with partners that put yourself in an advantageous position with your peers, hmm nobody really cares. Boise State should be promoting itself. The AD and president failed. Plain and simple. I hope you see it the same if and when Wyoming does well and the commissioner sits on his lazy dead ass and does nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BSUTOP25 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 BIG MOUNTAIN CONFERENCE Air Force Boise State Colorado State Nebraska New Mexico Oklahoma San Diego State Texas Utah State Wyoming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ole blu dude Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 If he spoken after beating Washington that would have held more water for me, also BSU lost a game to a 7-5 BYU team that is why you are not in a better bowl, with that said many of the MWC schools most of which are in the western division need to step up. The commitment is not there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soupslam1 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Thompson represents the MWC. He needs to get off his dead ass and start doing his job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renoskier Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, soupslam1 said: Thompson represents the MWC. He needs to get off his dead ass and start doing his job. Do you believe you should have been ahead of Memphis? Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ole blu dude Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Actually a conference made up with the following might work, for travel etc. Will not happen, but there are travel partners 8 -10 football games and 20 game basketball schedule Boise State Utah State Colorado St. Air Force. Wyoming San Diego St' Fresno St. UNR UNLV Houston SMU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSUTOP25 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Two thoughts about Harsin’s presser where he called out the AD and Mountain West. 1. He is absolutely justified in complaining about the shitty out of conference play, program investment by the rest of the MWC, and lack of savviness by the commissioner with regard to bowl matchups and overall promotion of the conference. He is also spot on by implying that Curt Apsey is a useless toolbag with no spine or creativity. 2. But he should also man up to the fact that his team was in the driver’s seat and they choked, like they do every year under his leadership, to an inferior opponent. That BYU debacle is on him. Not on Craig Thompson, the MWC schools, or Curt Apsey. That was a bad loss, really bad. No team deserves an NY6 bid with a loss to a team like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slapdad Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 10 minutes ago, BSUTOP25 said: Two thoughts about Harsin’s presser where he called out the AD and Mountain West. 1. He is absolutely justified in complaining about the shitty out of conference play, program investment by the rest of the MWC, and lack of savviness by the commissioner with regard to bowl matchups and overall promotion of the conference. He is also spot on by implying that Curt Apsey is a useless toolbag with no spine or creativity. 2. But he should also man up to the fact that his team was in the driver’s seat and they choked, like they do every year under his leadership, to an inferior opponent. That BYU debacle is on him. Not on Craig Thompson, the MWC schools, or Curt Apsey. That was a bad loss, really bad. No team deserves an NY6 bid with a loss to a team like that. The conference did much better in it's OOC this year. Boise barely beat a horrible FSU and average Marshall team, lost to an average BYU team and played Portland State. This year's 12-1 version of BSU had a hard time handling CSU, SJSU, and Wyoming, so it's not like BSU was mowing down their opponents. If he thinks BSU got jobbed by playing UW, he's nuts. The b.s. excuse about taking away from the kids with the Peterson-BSU storyline is just that. It's something that the rest of the country is interested in seeing, frankly, so to talk about marketing this team and then turn around and criticize one of the best storylines of the bowl season is silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoiseStateOfMind Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 6 hours ago, MWC Tex said: My comment to this board would be, look what I have to work with. Gimme something guys so I can put the conference in a better position. And the response is easy. Hair has already had several chances to put the conference in a better position - inviting Boise earlier than he did, Wichita State, Gonzaga - and screwed all of them up. He is also losing the marketing battle with the AAC by a landslide. This conference gave Hair plenty to work with this season - arguably Boise's best season in a while, Air Force and Hawaii's major turnarounds, all the wins against P5 opponents - and he did absolutely nothing with any of it. At this point, Hair could have Alabama, Clemson and Ohio State in his conference and still find a way to make the media view it as third-rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...