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Whistleblower Outed(Maybe)

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6 minutes ago, Akkula said:

Just like Donald Trump's Russia collusion and mueller... you guys think you can dismiss all the evil shit trump does if you can just discredit the origins of the investigation.   Like none of his evil matters. 

But Mueller concluded Trump didn’t collude with Russia...

thelawlorfaithful, on 31 Dec 2012 - 04:01 AM, said:One of the rules I live by: never underestimate a man in a dandy looking sweater

 

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4 minutes ago, edluvar said:

Can he really be trusted to investigate Der Cheeto?  

I didn’t have an issue with Mueller investigating Trump.  I don’t have an issue with the Ukrainian investigation either.  If Trump did withhold military aid in exchange for dirt on a political opponent then he needs to be removed from office. We haven’t seen all the evidence yet so I’m reserving judgment until then. 

thelawlorfaithful, on 31 Dec 2012 - 04:01 AM, said:One of the rules I live by: never underestimate a man in a dandy looking sweater

 

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8 minutes ago, mugtang said:

I didn’t have an issue with Mueller investigating Trump.  I don’t have an issue with the Ukrainian investigation either.  If Trump did withhold military aid in exchange for dirt on a political opponent then he needs to be removed from office. We haven’t seen all the evidence yet so I’m reserving judgment until then. 

I agree.  From what I can tell the process to collect the evidence seems correct we just need to give the process it’s time.  

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1 hour ago, toonkee said:

Lt. Colonel Vindman, who says he was on the call, agrees.

Actually he doesn't agree on that. 

"On July 25, 2019, the call occurred. I listened in on the call in the Situation Room with colleagues from the NSC and the office of the Vice President. As the transcript is in the public record, we are all aware of what was said."

https://d3i6fh83elv35t.cloudfront.net/static/2019/10/Vindmanstatementfinal.pdf

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2 hours ago, toonkee said:

Let's say all of that is 100% true and this kid was a human scum never trumper.

Does it even matter?  It's not like Trump is getting impeached based on his personal testimony.

 

You are finally right, Trump is getting impeached to politically advance democratic political success.  They think anyway.

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2 hours ago, edluvar said:

So when the republicans impeached Clinton the folks leading the investigation were Democrats?  I missed that one.  

No, there was an independent counsel that laid out 11 felonies. Then there were open meeting where Clinton's attorneys could question witnesses and subpoena their own witnesses. Oh, and before the inquiry started the actual full House voted on it. All things that haven't happened here. 

Even the rules laid out by Schiff when this goes forward have no consistency with impeachment inquiries in the past. For example if the GOP wants to subpoena a witness they must ask Schiff. He can deny it. It then goes to the full committee which is a dem majority and they can block it. How is that fair? 

If you think this is in any way fair and due process then you aren't paying attention. 

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2 hours ago, Akkula said:

There was no leaking.  The complaint went through proper channels.   The facts disclosed are the important thing... not the identity or politics of the whistleblower.   I am sure you loved Sniwden though......

WTF are you talking about? The dems have been leaking items to the media every day during these meetings. 

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4 hours ago, mugtang said:

But Mueller concluded Trump didn’t collude with Russia...

Mueller said he couldn't find enough evidence of a crime... big difference.   Knowing what we' know now about Ukraine and what was in the Mueller report, is there really any doubt Trump worked with Russia to influence the last election?  We already know he paid secret illegal hush money payments right before the last election to porn stars and that he is an unindicted co conspirator in an election crime for which his accomplice sits in federal prison. Even though he got out of the Mueller report unscathed he is still opening a fraudulent investigation to try to say all that didn't matter because he should get investigated in the first place. 

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5 hours ago, Akkula said:

Human scum are people trying to out and retaliate against a whistleblower.  They don't even need his testimony any longer.   The only reason you are trying to out the whistleblower is to try to intimidate others from coming forward.  You people are very ethically compromised and will do anything to protect your messiah.

You people? Racist. 

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6 hours ago, Rebelbacker said:

No, there was an independent counsel that laid out 11 felonies. Then there were open meeting where Clinton's attorneys could question witnesses and subpoena their own witnesses. Oh, and before the inquiry started the actual full House voted on it. All things that haven't happened here. 

Even the rules laid out by Schiff when this goes forward have no consistency with impeachment inquiries in the past. For example if the GOP wants to subpoena a witness they must ask Schiff. He can deny it. It then goes to the full committee which is a dem majority and they can block it. How is that fair? 

If you think this is in any way fair and due process then you aren't paying attention. 

Right on.  Ken Starr was sooooo independent.   Was Brent Kavenaugh as independent as Starr?   What about the other 36 angry Republicans who were on his council?   
 

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I see the Trump defense force is going full McCarthy

On 12/1/2016 at 12:26 PM, WyomingCoog said:

I own a vehicle likely worth more than everything you own combined and just flew first class (including a ticket for a 2 1/2 year old), round trip to Las Vegas and I'm not 35 yet. When you accomplish something outside of finishing a book, let me know. When's the last time you saw a 2 year old fly first class in their own seat? Don't tell me about elite.  

28 minutes ago, NorCalCoug said:

I’d happily compare IQ’s with you any day of the week.

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10 hours ago, DestinFlPackfan said:

I must be missing something.  ( I work a lot ) I thought the whistleblowers account matched up with trumps released accounts. 

It does. Maybe a detail or two is missing but it is essentially the same. The whistle blower is unimportant now. They have other testimony and evidence(like the the edited call summary that doesn't clear the president no matter how much he says it does). The only reason to still try to out the whistle blower is to stop others from blowing the whistle. Which is the reason we protect their identity. 

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Uh... the whistleblower doesn't matter. It's the evidence that matters. It doesn't matter if I tattle on you for cheating on your wife because I want to get in her pants after the divorce. You still +++++ed around on your wife. 

Remember that every argument you have with someone on MWCboard is actually the continuation of a different argument they had with someone else also on MWCboard. 

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9 hours ago, Rebelbacker said:

Actually he doesn't agree on that. 

"On July 25, 2019, the call occurred. I listened in on the call in the Situation Room with colleagues from the NSC and the office of the Vice President. As the transcript is in the public record, we are all aware of what was said."

https://d3i6fh83elv35t.cloudfront.net/static/2019/10/Vindmanstatementfinal.pdf

That statement was in reference to what was released in the transcript, which was damning enough. Vindman apparently testified to committees that the transcript was incomplete and that portions talking more about Biden and Burisma were omitted.

https://apnews.com/401efdc06a334f4a87365eb9b3107af4

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42 minutes ago, happycamper said:

Uh... the whistleblower doesn't matter. It's the evidence that matters. It doesn't matter if I tattle on you for cheating on your wife because I want to get in her pants after the divorce. You still +++++ed around on your wife. 

You're right, it's the evidence that matters.

The Ukrainians say there was no quid pro quo

The military hardware was delivered without an investigation started into the Bidens by the Ukrainians. 

There was no quid pro quo.

 

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13 hours ago, toonkee said:

Let's say all of that is 100% true and this kid was a human scum never trumper.

Does it even matter?  It's not like Trump is getting impeached based on his personal testimony.

It still matters because whoever the whistleblower is, he should be given the Congressional Medal of Honor for setting the impeachment process in motion.

Boom goes the dynamite.

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This is all a political smokescreen by the Democrats to try and make Trump look bad before the election. Similar to the Mueller investigation it will go nowhere and the Democrats will fail in their quest to oust Trump once again. Then they will get trounced in the next election and wonder why. What a bunch of whining loser dunces. 

Maybe they should consider an agenda that would benefit Americans. Nah that won’t happen. They have let the leftists take over the party with all their loony ideas. 

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