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Poll: Impeachment

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67 members have voted

  1. 1. Will Trump Be Impeached?

    • Yes
      47
    • No
      20
  2. 2. If Trump Is Impeached Will He Be Removed From Office

    • Yes
      1
    • No
      66
  3. 3. Do You Support The Impeachment Inquiry (not actual impeachment)

    • Yes
      45
    • No
      22


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On 10/9/2019 at 2:06 AM, IanforHeisman said:

I haven’t heard a single Trump supporter say you know what, Trump +++++ed up here and took it too far. They all openly support him breaking the law and his presidential oath. Never thought either party would ever hold the president to such a low standard. 

 

 

Interesting. I always thought the same about Obama. 

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I'm less sure that Trump won't be forced out than I was when I voted on Sunday.

It's not just the significant change in the polls but also the abject idiocy of how the White House has gone about things this week. Refusal to cooperate with the House inquiry greatly weakened Nixon's position in the court of public opinion yet Trump is now doing the same thing and insofar as impeachment is a political process as much as a judicial one, that's no bueno for Mr. Grumpy. And what about the Kurds? Nobody hates the Kurds except Turkey and Iraq, alleged allies who next to worthless to the US, and Iran and Russia, both of which are adversaries to the US although Russia not so much to President Grumpy. Removing troops from a hot spot in which almost none of them are being killed could in and of itself bring down the presidency if it results in a human catastrophe. And what of the 10,000 or so ISIS fighters who the Kurds are going to have to stop guarding because they need those troops to defend their people against the Turkish military? Monumental clusterphuck on Trump's part which would be exacerbated if it is discovered that his decision to do so was motivated by Erdogan reminding him that there are two Trump Towers in Istanbul that the government could nationalize if Mr. Grumpy refused to play ball.

Then there's Trump's income taxes. The NY state investigation is this close to finally getting them. Donald Trump: "I've always been completely transparent in all my business dealings so that's a big nothing-burger." Just paraphrasing but you get my point. Again assuming the Senate trial will be highly political, what if by that time Trump is indicted by a NY grand jury as being a tax cheat? Given the timing, that's unlikely but IMO the circumstances suggest it's equally unlikely that those tax returns aren't as dirty as everything else Mr. Grumpy puts his hands on.

I could go on but that's enough for now.

 

Boom goes the dynamite.

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14 hours ago, toonkee said:

I don't think all Republicans are dumb. Not at all. But man, the last two Republican presidents have been super duper all-time Hall of Fame dummies. 

It's not ALL..........but a good % thrive on 'Stupid' - Some sane conservatives came out today on this impeachment issue with a totally concern 

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On 10/9/2019 at 3:06 AM, IanforHeisman said:

I haven’t heard a single Trump supporter say you know what, Trump +++++ed up here and took it too far. They all openly support him breaking the law and his presidential oath. Never thought either party would ever hold the president to such a low standard. 

Trump fvcked up doing what? Despite that we have the transcript where he didn’t do anything wrong, the left and media do their best to spin it to fit their narrative. He didn’t break any laws you goof. And you can’t use psycho Rachel Maddow as a news source. 😂😂😂

1. But what we DO know as a fact is that the DNC had someone contact Ukraine to get them to dig up dirt on Trump to interfere with the election. At that time, the DNC wanted dirt in their files that were related to their Russian collusion scam. The Ukraine gov declined to and they didn’t have anything the the DNC wanted, anyway. 

2. We also know for a fact that three Dem Senators wrote a letter to Ukraine in 2016 demanding that they hand over Trump dirt or they’d deny Ukraine their big time financial payment for the year. 

3. We also know about what the media won’t spend any time on. That’s investigating the Biden and son Ukraine and China corruption. If this had been Trump and one of his sons doing the same thing, it would be the end of the world. You’d have the Group of 4 idiots actually calling the police to come arrest Trump at the WH. They have already said they plan to have him, Pence and others be arrested and taken away to prison. Tulib said that. We have some dangerously stupid people in Congress. 

So there you have it, 3 factual events carried out by the Dems with the media’s help where they’re doing exactly what they’re accusing Trump of doing. The hypocrisy is as bad as hypocrisy can get. 

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9 hours ago, Nevada Convert said:

Trump fvcked up doing what? Despite that we have the transcript where he didn’t do anything wrong, the left and media do their best to spin it to fit their narrative. He didn’t break any laws you goof. And you can’t use psycho Rachel Maddow as a news source. 😂😂😂

*derp*

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On 10/9/2019 at 10:22 PM, toonkee said:

I don't think all Republicans are dumb. Not at all. But man, the last two Republican presidents have been super duper all-time Hall of Fame dummies. 

Obama was really good at reading the Teleprompter.

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On 10/11/2019 at 3:08 PM, TheSanDiegan said:

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Evidence #3A: Here we have a far left individual that wants to strike back at the exculpatory verifiable facts that President Trump has done nothing wrong in his Ukraine phone conversation. However, this troubled boy has no facts to make his case, so he chose to film himself masterbating to a synth keyboard. Equally disturbing is his groupie friends that love to watch it.

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4 minutes ago, Nevada Convert said:

Evidence #3A: Here we have a far left individual that wants to strike back at the exculpatory verifiable facts that President Trump has done nothing wrong in his phone conversation with the Ukraine president. However, this troubled individual has no facts to further his narrative, so he chose to film himself masterbating to a synth keyboard to make his case. 

It was a perfect call... It was a perfect call... It was a perfect call...

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13 minutes ago, Nevada Convert said:

It's already been determined to be perfectly legal, silly boy. Spinning it like your cute eyes there isn't going to convince anyone. 

Eh, no.

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That's a violation of federal law.

Even worse are the multiple gross violations of his Constitutional oath:

- Abusing the power of his office to solicit a foreign power to target a political rival for personal gain

- Abusing the power of his office to (allegedly) leverage national security assets to target a political rival for personal gain

- Abusing the power of his office to use formal State Dept diplomatic resources to target a political rival for personal gain

- Abusing the power of his office to attempt to cover up such activities by moving the transcripts of such calls to codeword protected servers reserved for highly classified materials pertaining to national security

- Calling for the arrest of political rivals for exercising their Constitutionally enshrined rights

- Implicitly threatening a Civil War should the opposition party exercise their Constitutionally enshrined rights

 

And it goes without saying that any one of these is an impeachable offense. Had Obama done any of that shit you would have had a seizure so severe it would have torn a hole in the space-time continuum.

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2 hours ago, TheSanDiegan said:

Eh, no.

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That's a violation of federal law.

Even worse are the multiple gross violations of his Constitutional oath:

- Abusing the power of his office to solicit a foreign power to target a political rival for personal gain

- Abusing the power of his office to (allegedly) leverage national security assets to target a political rival for personal gain

- Abusing the power of his office to use formal State Dept diplomatic resources to target a political rival for personal gain

- Abusing the power of his office to attempt to cover up such activities by moving the transcripts of such calls to codeword protected servers reserved for highly classified materials pertaining to national security

- Calling for the arrest of political rivals for exercising their Constitutionally enshrined rights

- Implicitly threatening a Civil War should the opposition party exercise their Constitutionally enshrined rights

 

And it goes without saying that any one of these is an impeachable offense. Had Obama done any of that shit you would have had a seizure so severe it would have torn a hole in the space-time continuum.

I see that CNN and MSLSD have been 'educating' you. Wow, that is a whole bunch of bullshit. Why do you even bother? They're wrong about 98% of the time. Do you get a woody over getting your hopes up and then getting them dashed time and time again from the Rachel Maddow's of cable news?

Do your homework and find out what a "thing of value" really means legally in this area of law. He didn't ask for "anything of value" you idiot. That was the legal determination in all of his contact with the Ukraine prez, and that's why he hasn't and won't get into any trouble for doing so. The Ukraine prez said he wasn't pressured into doing anything. An assertive suggestion to cooperate with an investigation is a lot different than what your party has been trying to fraudulently pull off. 

http://www.abajournal.com/news/article/questions-raised-about-attorney-general-and-doj-legal-opinion-as-whistleblower-complaint-is-released

 

The DOJ had reviewed the call transcript and determined that it did not violate campaign finance laws that ban the solicitation of campaign contributions from foreign sources. The DOJ reviewers concluded that seeking help with a government investigation was not a “thing of value” under the law, a source previously told the Washington Post.

The whistleblower also referred to Barr when referencing statements by then-Ukrainian Prosecutor General Yuriy Lutsenko to the Hill publication. Lutsenko asserted that there was evidence Ukrainian officials had interfered with the 2016 election in collaboration with the Democratic National Committee.

And then there's Biden....LOL!!! You and your liberal wankers are spinning your own little web of BS. But the DNC and Dem Senators DID ask for "value" 3 different times as stated in my previous post. Maybe you should be more concerned about your own party attempting to dig up dirt on Trump to interfere with the 2016 election (and going forward) before you start throwing rocks across the street. 

Have fun on Friday when the IG report starts the heads rolling for a very real and dangerous conspiracy to remove a president using fraud and other illegalities. 

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