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The NCAA has no choice but to follow suit for all member institutions. Trying to keep the law from being abused is problematic. It’s creating a slippery slope which could result in the end of college sports as we know it. Personally I’m not sure I really care. Corruption in the NCAA and the elite schools have soured me on being a fan. 

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1 hour ago, ViAggie said:

ONE MORE THOUGHT

Can the State of California compel a private school to comply? 

A state can attempt such compulsion, but that option isn’t currently an enforceable right that any state holds - as far as I know...

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6 minutes ago, goboroot said:

I see this being challenged in court by the NCAA...All the way to the Supreme Court, with the NCAA coming out winner.  Those crazy ass Californian lawmakers don't follow any laws.

Yep.  Let the lawsuits begin.  I doubt we see this implemented by 2023.

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The big schools will just continue to get bigger. Amatuer football will only exist at the pee wee level. High schools will be next.

When one feels entitiled there are no boundries. 

Scholarship values that run into the hundreds of thousands of dollars are just not good enough any more.  They are now looked at as valueless. Maybe the US Congress and the states with income taxes should include books, tuition costs and housing and food as income and tax the athletes on those values as well.

I know I had to pay taxes on the money I earned to send my children off to college. 

But then again if our socialist/communist universities get their way everyone is going to get free college on the backs of the working class to ensure professors and administrators have job security and their guaranteed slice of the pie.

 

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1 hour ago, Jeffkills said:

Now that's an excellent conference - there's no two ways about it....

However, wouldn't it make more sense to swap WSU for Fresno?

Last I looked, Fresno was in CA. I think that was the point of the conference. 

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29 minutes ago, goboroot said:

I see this being challenged in court by the NCAA...All the way to the Supreme Court, with the NCAA coming out winner.  Those crazy ass Californian lawmakers don't follow any laws.

Yup, remember not too long ago California wanted for all it's schools to not play is states that have real gender bathroom laws? 

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12 minutes ago, BSUFan said:

The big schools will just continue to get bigger. Amatuer football will only exist at the pee wee level. High schools will be next.

When one feels entitiled there are no boundries. 

Scholarship values that run into the hundreds of thousands of dollars are just not good enough any more.  They are now looked at as valueless. Maybe the US Congress and the states with income taxes should include books, tuition costs and housing and food as income and tax the athletes on those values as well.

I know I had to pay taxes on the money I earned to send my children off to college. 

But then again if our socialist/communist universities get their way everyone is going to get free college on the backs of the working class to ensure professors and administrators have job security and their guaranteed slice of the pie.

 

This ^^

College is not for everyone and right those that want to go pay or apply for scholarships/grants to do so. If it's free, everyone will go just to do it even if they never plan on graduating thus increasing the cost of taxes that much more. 

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Every state in the MWC needs to pass this law NOW!  We can't be left behind.  If athletes can make marketing deals in California, then every MWC school's athletes should have the same right.  Time to contact your respective state legislators!!

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4 hours ago, SleepingGiantFan said:

The schools won't be paying the players for use of their likeness. It's video game companies, shoe companies and the like which will.

This^^^^^^  The money will come from the advertisers that want to leverage a College player's popularity.  So, the athlete will have to figure on what school gives me the most exposure and thus the most value to advertisers.  Schools like Wyoming will probably get the same level of athletes they are getting now because they aren't the ones who'll have a lot of marketing value on the national stage.  The athlete will add the value of national exposure to his/here calculation of where is the best school to go to.

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This really comes down to which programs have the biggest followings - particularly locally.  That will drive demand for Billy Bob's Ford dealership to fund an ad campaign with the local college QB.  Also, schools located in major metropolitan areas will have an advantage not only from a market size perspective but also because the cost of living is so much higher that the payouts to players will be as well.  Think about a recruit deciding between UCLA and Iowa - the kid on the billboard in LA is going to be making a hell of a lot more than one in Ames.

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2 hours ago, Fowl said:

This really comes down to which programs have the biggest followings - particularly locally.  That will drive demand for Billy Bob's Ford dealership to fund an ad campaign with the local college QB.  Also, schools located in major metropolitan areas will have an advantage not only from a market size perspective but also because the cost of living is so much higher that the payouts to players will be as well.  Think about a recruit deciding between UCLA and Iowa - the kid on the billboard in LA is going to be making a hell of a lot more than one in Ames.

Is he, though? UCLA could barely half fill the Rose Bowl for a game against a top-6 Oklahoma team, and that’s with better than half of those in attendance pulling for the Sooners and UCLA season ticket holders receiving four free tickets. The same UCLA that’s a distant second between the two college football teams in a town with two professional football teams, two professional basketball teams, two professional baseball teams, two professional hockey teams and I’d guess two professional soccer teams. Oh, and it’s only the center of the goddamned entertainment universe.

With this in mind, exactly how much market value does one think the starting TE for the Bruins commands anyway? Is it really more than what the multi-millionaire owner of Sloppy Slim’s Hog Feed & Pitchfork Handle Palace and mega-Hawkeye booster is ready to throw at the same kid to entice him to come to Iowa City?

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I expect the NCAA to fight the new law tooth and nail.

Keep in mind who really runs that organization. It’s not fans or boosters or coaches or ADs. It’s the university presidents of the P5 conference schools.

Those folks have a great thing going because the current rule structure creates the appearance of a level playing field across Division I, whereas the reality is that their schools enjoy huge financial, competitive, exposure and reputational advantages that in turn help sustain and grow overall enrollment. And in today’s post-secondary education marketplace enrollment is the lifeblood of institutional success.

Allowing the California law to effectively rewrite the NCAA rule book with respect to athlete compensation will blow up the illusion of a level playing field. Elite athletes will no longer gravitate to P5 schools based on fancier facilities, better coaches and more ESPN coverage. They will flock to the subset of P5 schools with the richest athletic boosters who are willing to put the most cash in their pockets, and it will all be perfectly legal and out in the open.

As the landscape becomes more tilted and the already-strained perception of fairness in competition is completely eroded away, athletic success will no longer be something P5 university presidents (and their marketing staffs) can proudly point to as evidence of the inherent superiority of their institutions and the intrinsic value of a “[P5 school name here] education.” Instead it will be spotlighted as the consequence of whoever’s fan base - with the university’s complicity - is willing to spend the most money to buy semi-pro rosters. Fans will be turned off, advertisers will be turned off, and the shiny golden goose that lays the shiny reputational golden eggs will shrink to a little gosling.

I think the majority of P5 university presidents recognize this threat and will send their lawyers to attack the new law in court. As for the California schools, nothing is likely to happen to them any time soon since the law doesn't take effect until 2023.  But if the issue is still being litigated then, I'll be surprised if the NCAA doesn't follow through on its threat to ban them from championship competition.

Get out the popcorn because this thing is far from over.

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I do see one positive in all this that I haven’t seen anyone anywhere else mention. With the modest decline in youth through HS FB, if a kid can actually make some moderately big bucks in college, it’s going to incentivize kids to play through HS and see what deal they can make in college. 

The way it is now, kids play in hopes they can make an NFL roster some day and make big bucks.....but it’s simply a pipe dream for almost all of them. Making some significant money in college and getting  their degree at the same time would be a no brainer for many. But it sure would make their college grades an even bigger deal for the athlete. Getting kicked off the team is bad enough. Add to it losing some big money, and it takes it to a new level of importance. 

It would also benefit players that thrive in college ball, but don’t translate well with the NFL. Tebow would be an example, and Johnny Manziel another. RB is almost an impossible position to attain in the NFL, but many are stars in college. And if a player gets a career ending injury, at least they will have made some money. It would also keep the big stars like Tebow in college to make money they wouldn’t in the NFL. It would actually keep a decent amount of good players from leaving early. 

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13 hours ago, DCPoke said:

This^^^^^^  The money will come from the advertisers that want to leverage a College player's popularity.  So, the athlete will have to figure on what school gives me the most exposure and thus the most value to advertisers.  Schools like Wyoming will probably get the same level of athletes they are getting now because they aren't the ones who'll have a lot of marketing value on the national stage.  The athlete will add the value of national exposure to his/here calculation of where is the best school to go to.

I agree how many college athletes will bring enough national exposure that business minds will want to pay them big bucks. It is not like all of a sudden CEO's are going to become charitable and throw away advertising dollars on people nobody has ever heard of. A hand full of athletes at big schools will get big contracts. The rest won't move the needle. Places like WYO and Fresno could benefit the most. I am thinking small towns where the local car dealership will pay an athlete a few grand to use in advertisements. 

Sure some seniors going into the NFL might get contracts in advance in hope that they can keep them once they are in the NFL but those kids will already be locked down at a school. I don't know that this alone changes much, might even level the playing field as highly recruited 18 year olds that are young and dumb are handed big pay checks and act like fools. 

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