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California Bill to Pay Athletes Passes

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48 minutes ago, soupslam1 said:

I agree except for the bolded part. There will be bidding wars for the best players and it won’t be for peanuts. I could see this escalate to the point many college presidents saying screw it and not allowing scholarships for athletes, essentially making all sports intramural or club sports. 

I would add a clause to the athletic scholarship, reducing the scholarship award by any W-2 or 1099 income earned by the student that is derived from being a member of any university team.  

This bill, if approved, is going to add even more administrative costs to the athletic departments - because I can't imagine the athletes will be able to endorse whatever they want.

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16 minutes ago, bigbluebaby said:

 

Casino's , liquor, and cigarette/ vaping brands sponsoring athletes? Looks OK according to this.

Wait until a few attorneys get there hands on the priviledged few players who are offered money for their likeness's.

Its about to get really dirty and ugly.

You ain't seen nothing yet.

 I would guess maybe 1%-3% of college athletes are going to even get compensated as they are the face's of their teams.

The rest wont get anything, now theres a great way for a star QB to endear himself to his lineman and team.

 

Only problem is if they try to use the University brand in any of those endorsements - and a number of people will take advantage of this loophole to funnel money to players.  Does this mean that Reggie Bush gets his Heisman back?

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22 minutes ago, Monty93 said:

I would add a clause to the athletic scholarship, reducing the scholarship award by any W-2 or 1099 income earned by the student that is derived from being a member of any university team.  

This bill, if approved, is going to add even more administrative costs to the athletic departments - because I can't imagine the athletes will be able to endorse whatever they want.

“I’m Carson Strong and when I get bored I head out to the ranch, Mustang Ranch”. 

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3 minutes ago, mugtang said:

“I’m Carson Strong and when I get bored I head out to the ranch, Mustang Ranch”. 

I can see it now:

"Hi, I'm Carson Strong of the Nevada Wolf Pack.  As a quarterback, I really hate incompletions.  Let me tell you, at the Mustang Ranch all of my passes are good and my balls are never dropped. So next time you wanna go deep for the score, bring your Pack to the ranch. Mustang Ranch. Hike!" (cut to scene of player being tackled by lingerie-clad women.)

 

 

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This bill IS going to happen.  It won't start until 2023, when it goes into effect but it will have a major impact on all sports.  What will the NCAA do?  Because as we all know as California goes... so does the rest of the US (eventually).

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1 hour ago, SalinasSpartan said:

I know I sure as hell don’t care if it blows up this stupid college athletic structure.

I have watched college sports for over fifty years and I will miss it, but in some respects, I agree with you. I’m tired of the corruption in college sports. The NCAA is as corrupt as some of the schools they govern. The P5 schools have done everything they can to marginalize the G5 schools so they can hoard most of the money. The TV networks essentially control college football. 

Greed is going to break the system and maybe it needs to be broken. The down side is it’s going to hurt a lot of kids, that won’t be going to college for lack of an athletic scholarship. 

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2 hours ago, soupslam1 said:

This is a continuation of a thread several months ago with further advancement of the measure in the California legislature. 

https://ktla.com/2019/09/09/california-law-would-allow-college-athletes-to-be-paid/

The bill passed their Assembly and must be approved by the Senate which is likely a slam dunk setting up a confrontation with the NCAA. It could have some far reaching effects on college athletics. The bill essentially allows payment to athletes from parties using their likenesses. It sounds relatively innocuous on the surface, but could morph into major cash transactions for star athletes depending on interpretation. 

It may have minimal effect or it could end up dooming college athletics as we currently know it. It certainly could have major impacts on G5 schools if it escalates to paying athletes for athletic participation on college sports teams. The P5 schools can afford it, the G5 schools can’t. 

Anyone can afford it who wants to compete.

The NCAA and its rules hold back the lower schools.   For the very reason that paying players was how Notre Dame, Ohio State and the rest out competed the Ivy League.

This is great for MWC schools who wish to actually compete.

 

Not to mention it is great for players who are being taken advantage of for billions of dollars in revenue. 

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5 minutes ago, bluerules009 said:

I guarantee you are wrong.

There will be schools who will compete.

It might allow a couple schools to break through, but the schools with the biggest boosters were already winning recruiting battles now. That will remain the case.

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5 minutes ago, sebasour said:

It might allow a couple schools to break through, but the schools with the biggest boosters were already winning recruiting battles now. That will remain the case.

It will allow anyone who is willing to compete to break through.

Just like Amazon came from nothing to compete with Walmart and every brick and mortar store in the world.   A level playing field gives every school the chance to compete.

The NCAA and the rules they promulgate are designed to take advantage of kids for billions and insure that the existing power structure stayed intact.    That will end in the next few years and some small schools will compete.   

 

I could see schools like SDSU, Fresno, BYU, some of those Florida small schools and others with big populations who have the ability to attract a lot of fans to a winner, explode their success if they decided to compete.

There are billions of dollars to compete for and if the playing field is level why not go get some?

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26 minutes ago, bluerules009 said:

Anyone can afford it who wants to compete. There will be a lot of so called smaller schools that choose to not put up the money to compete. 

The NCAA and its rules hold back the lower schools.   For the very reason that paying players was how Notre Dame, Ohio State and the rest out competed the Ivy League. The Ivy League schools chose to put money in academics and not compete in football. They are still competitive in most other sports. 

This is great for MWC schools who wish to actually compete. I can only think of three, Boise State, Fresno State, and SDSU that truly try to compete in football. Add CSU to that list. The rest don’t fund their programs at the level needed to be consistently competitive. 

 

Not to mention it is great for players who are being taken advantage of for billions of dollars in revenue. Players are given athletic scholarships that are worth thousands of dollars. I fail to see how they are being taken advantage of. Also, note that a big portion of the profit made in the revenue sports football and basketball fund all remaining men and women’s sports on campus. Since the other sports generate very little money, should they be eliminated so the football and basketball players can be paid? 

 

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6 minutes ago, bluerules009 said:

It will allow anyone who is willing to compete to break through.

Just like Amazon came from nothing to compete with Walmart and every brick and mortar store in the world.   A level playing field gives every school the chance to compete.

The NCAA and the rules they promulgate are designed to take advantage of kids for billions and insure that the existing power structure stayed intact.    That will end in the next few years and some small schools will compete.   

 

I could see schools like SDSU, Fresno, BYU, some of those Florida small schools and others with big populations who have the ability to attract a lot of fans to a winner, explode their success if they decided to compete.

There are billions of dollars to compete for and if the playing field is level why not go get some?

 

I don't think we disagree on this issue Blue. I'm 100% in favor of it.

 

That said, I don't share your optimism that it's going to lead to Go5 schools getting the same talent as the P5 schools. Most of them still lack the boosters, and the lack of playing in a major conference is still going to hurt. 

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This will kill the smaller schools if it ends up happening.  All the marketable athletes will go to the marketable schools.  Doesnt matter how much the school itself has - they wont be the ones paying the money.  This will be about companies great and small, from Nike to Chico's Bail Bonds, paying kids.  And you can be damn sure they'll be happier if the kid is playing at Maryland  or Oregon or Alabama  than UMass or Fresno or Tulsa.  And school choices will be made on that basis.  Wont even get into the Pandora's box it could open, but thats where the NCAA will ultimately come up with a plan that closes as many loopholes as possible.

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This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.

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Just now, RSF said:

This will kill the smaller schools if it ends up happening.  All the marketable athletes will go to the marketable schools.  Doesnt matter how much the school itself has - they wont be the ones paying the money.  This will be about companies great and small, from Nike to Chico's Bail Bonds, paying kids.  And you can be damn sure they'll be happier if the kid is playing at Maryland  or Oregon or Alabama  than UMass or Fresno or Tulsa.  And school choices will be made on that basis.  Wont even get into the Pandora's box it could open, but thats where the NCAA will ultimately come up with a plan that closes as many loopholes as possible.

 

Doesn't that happen now?

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This is so stupid. All UCLA has to do now is hang a team poster on their stadium and pay each player an extra 50k a year for using their image. Good luck mw schools competing for recruits anymore. Anybody that thinks this won’t widen the gap and end football for a lot of programs is very wrong. 

"but we only lost to Stanford by 3."

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9 minutes ago, sebasour said:

 

Doesn't that happen now?

Not saying it doesnt.  It wont be under the table anymore.  It'll be worse, though, because some kids that might actually choose a smaller school for whatever reason will have an additional factor to deal with.

 

Then there's the transfer portal.  Say a late bloomer starts at Medium State, and breaks out.  And an offer comes from adidas...if they transfer to a bigger school.  See ya.

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7 minutes ago, boisewitha-s said:

This is so stupid. All UCLA has to do now is hang a team poster on their stadium and pay each player an extra 50k a year for using their image. Good luck mw schools competing for recruits anymore. Anybody that thinks this won’t widen the gap and end football for a lot of programs is very wrong. 

You hit the nail on the head. Schools and boosters will come up with a variety of ways to use the law to pay the best athletes. It will become a bidding war for the best players. 

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