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California Bill to Pay Athletes Passes

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This is a continuation of a thread several months ago with further advancement of the measure in the California legislature. 

https://ktla.com/2019/09/09/california-law-would-allow-college-athletes-to-be-paid/

The bill passed their Assembly and must be approved by the Senate which is likely a slam dunk setting up a confrontation with the NCAA. It could have some far reaching effects on college athletics. The bill essentially allows payment to athletes from parties using their likenesses. It sounds relatively innocuous on the surface, but could morph into major cash transactions for star athletes depending on interpretation. 

It may have minimal effect or it could end up dooming college athletics as we currently know it. It certainly could have major impacts on G5 schools if it escalates to paying athletes for athletic participation on college sports teams. The P5 schools can afford it, the G5 schools can’t. 

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It is about time these kids are able to profit from their own brands.  Screw these Unis using them as modern day performance slaves!  

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Providing payment for using their likenesses and allowing for endorsement opportunities should have been done three decades ago when the revenues began to pile up.

As long as the athletes maintain academic eligibility I have no problem letting the Fresno safety, the Wyoming wrestler, the UCSB swimmer, etc. earn money from endorsements.  It won't solve all the problems, but it would fix a glaring issue

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1 minute ago, CowboyFriar said:

It is about time these kids are able to profit from their own brands.  Screw these Unis using them as modern day performance slaves!  

So I take it you don’t care if the current college athletic structure is completely blown up, because this measure has the potential to do just that. 

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12 minutes ago, jdgaucho said:

Providing payment for using their likenesses and allowing for endorsement opportunities should have been done three decades ago when the revenues began to pile up.

As long as the athletes maintain academic eligibility I have no problem letting the Fresno safety, the Wyoming wrestler, the UCSB swimmer, etc. earn money from endorsements.  It won't solve all the problems, but it would fix a glaring issue

I doubt the athletes you mentioned are going to see any cash come their way. It’s going to be the star athletes that make money. What’s to stop a big time booster selling cars using an athlete’s poster to promote his sales and paying him big money for it. The schools and boosters with the money are essentially going to be bidding for the best recruits. That happens to some degree anyway but it will open Pandora’s box. 

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1 minute ago, soupslam1 said:

So I take it you don’t care if the current college athletic structure is completely blown up, because this measure has the potential to do just that. 

If it gets "blown up" so be it.  The system is fundamentally unjust.  It treats the athletes as though they are the property of their respective institutions.  I believe that the fact this conversation is even taking place exemplifies the inherent corruption in the current system.  College athletics should not be about money and that is what this boils down to.

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Just now, soupslam1 said:

I doubt the athletes you mentioned are going to see any cash come their way. It’s going to be the star athletes that make money. What’s to stop a big time booster selling cars using an athlete to promote his sales and paying him big money. 

 

I listed those athletes as examples to get around any Title IX concerns.  As in, as long as they have the opportunity to earn cash, that should be enough.

Look at our UH friends.  No doubt a few of their volleyball players could earn some coin from endorsements.  

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6 minutes ago, CowboyFriar said:

If it gets "blown up" so be it.  The system is fundamentally unjust.  It treats the athletes as though they are the property of their respective institutions.  I believe that the fact this conversation is even taking place exemplifies the inherent corruption in the current system.  College athletics should not be about money and that is what this boils down to.

If the system gets blown up it’s not going to hurt the star athlete that has the ability to play in the NFL or NBA but it’s going to hurt thousands of lesser athletes that will no longer be able to get a college scholarship and have their education paid for. 

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3 minutes ago, soupslam1 said:

If the system gets blown up it’s not going to hurt the star athlete that has the ability to play in the NFL or NBA but it’s going to hurt thousands of lesser athletes that will no longer be able to get a college scholarship and have their education paid for. 

So your argument boils down to:  Let the more talented athletes suffer and lose their rights so the less talented athletes can get free stuff?

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21 minutes ago, CowboyFriar said:

It is about time these kids are able to profit from their own brands.  Screw these Unis using them as modern day performance slaves!  

They are currently being paid in the form of scholarships and a college education. 

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If anything this will speed up the separation form the haves (P5) and the have nots (G5) - and this could lead the P5 to separate from the NCAA and form their own governing body that makes more $$ and would compensate players in some small fashion 

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14 minutes ago, UNLV2001 said:

If anything this will speed up the separation form the haves (P5) and the have nots (G5) - and this could lead the P5 to separate from the NCAA and form their own governing body that makes more $$ and would compensate players in some small fashion 

I agree except for the bolded part. There will be bidding wars for the best players and it won’t be for peanuts. I could see this escalate to the point many college presidents saying screw it and not allowing scholarships for athletes, essentially making all sports intramural or club sports. 

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Just now, soupslam1 said:

I agree except for the bolded part. There will be bidding wars for the best players and it won’t be for peanuts. 

There will be a level of compensation for schools even if they break off from the NCAA & form their own governing body..........even inside the P5 there's varying amounts of $$$

The only way bidding wars happen is if the new SUPER CONFERENCE is limited to 24 super rich programs - the creme' de la creme' of the B10, ACC, SEC, B12 & Pac12 

They good off and basically create a 4 division of 6 teams super conference, with their own rules, commissioner & financials.............the rest of college FB will be left to fight over what's left of TV 

Heck, I could even see the NFL dipping a toe into the Super Conference with funding or some sort of involvement 

The angst would be in the current P5's who don't make the cut as they would be relegated to forming new alliances & alignments with the G5 or try for one national entity that takes the left over P5's along with the best potential of the G5

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Here's a few schools that could get the $$ to form their own governing body & make their own multi million $$ TV deals that includes a player compensation package 

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But if all schools can benefit from this it may level the playing field a bit.  What’s to stop a Reno car delearship from offering a kid 50k a year to be the face of their dealership, for example.  And it could mean the G5 schools actually wins some more recruiting battles with better offers for certain players.  The schools won’t be paying this money. 

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3 minutes ago, UNLV2001 said:

Here's a few schools that could get the $$ to form their own governing body & make their own multi million $$ TV deals that includes a player compensation package 

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I think what will ultimately happen is you’ll see the top 15 schools break away and form a national football alliance of some sort.  They’ll keep their other sports in the NCAA though, too much money in college basketball. 

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1 hour ago, soupslam1 said:

So I take it you don’t care if the current college athletic structure is completely blown up, because this measure has the potential to do just that. 

I know I sure as hell don’t care if it blows up this stupid college athletic structure.

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And thus the P-12 CA schools use the legislature to try to put the Cal States and the BSC FCS schools + USD out of the football business.  Can San Jose survive?  Fresno and San Diego probably can, but the burden will be significant.

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I have no problem with athletes getting compensated for their likeness.

The problem is they aren't qualified to negotiate these kinds of deals with business's which means.

I guess in California athletes can now have an agent in college? Or the athletes are going to get hosed again.

Say Hello to the blood sucking lawyers. Parents and stakeholders taking control of athletes.

If you think things are dirty now. Give it a little while.

Likelihood of Transfer portal entry based on better likeness deals at other schools , negotiated by agents? Or parents?

How about recruiting visits with Likeness sponsors lined up for that extra push? For that special player.

Casino's , liquor, and cigarette/ vaping brands sponsoring athletes? Looks OK according to this.

Wait until a few attorneys get there hands on the priviledged few players who are offered money for their likeness's.

Its about to get really dirty and ugly.

You ain't seen nothing yet.

 I would guess maybe 1%-3% of college athletes are going to even get compensated as they are the face's of their teams.

The rest wont get anything, now theres a great way for a star QB to endear himself to his lineman and team.

No Bueno, they will need a better system. This won't work, too complicated for people who are unqualified to use it.

Lots o lawsuits going to be flying around in short order.

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Great News, Rammies! It looks like the Pac-12 might be losing a few members from a certain state, so your invite could be in the mail soon!

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