Joe from WY Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 30 minutes ago, DoubleBlueGold said: Chances are, mass shooters don't need valium. They need something likely to be recommended by a psychiatrist. Likely to be out of affordability without insurance. You and I both know that. Valium is often recommended by psychiatrists, as are other drugs from the benzodiazepine family. Chances are, they probably do need something like that. But "guns are cheaper" isn't a good cop out because you can still be prescribed those from a general practice Dr. For how long, who knows though, given the FDA's ongoing war against doctors writing controlled substance prescriptions. Honestly, loosen up drug laws. Let doctors write prescriptions and allow for controlled substances to be bought over the counter in pharmacies as they are in most other civilized (and uncivilized) parts of the world. Bet if that happened, most of the shootings (unhinged mass shooters and gang shootings) would probably decrease substantially. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndroidAggie Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 1 hour ago, halfmanhalfbronco said: Yeah, I'm a real socialist alright. amirite @madmartigan and @AndroidAggie He's new. And doesn't read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepingGiantFan Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 4 hours ago, youngrebelfan40 said: Initial reports say the shooting wasn't politically or religiously motivated Don't confuse Maynard with relevant facts which don't fit his narrative underpinned by irrelevant ones. Boom goes the dynamite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudolro Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 1 hour ago, mysfit said: You have to be missing empathy, ethics and morality. Behavioral. Not mental health. Sound familiar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepingGiantFan Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 2 hours ago, BSUTOP25 said: You’re also not an asshole or an extremist. Although we often disagree, you’re a good contributor to the board. That's how I feel about almost all the right-wingers here. Thankfully there are only a few who rarely make a cogent argument or worse, never even articulate an original thought. Boom goes the dynamite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mysfit Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Joe from WY said: So otherwise sane people go out and shoot up places because of behavioral issues? lol. ok. Is someone suffering from depression insane? Of course not. Many same people suffer from mental health issues. Sanity does not equate with mental health. One of the Final Five.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renoskier Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 Was this "lefty" using a custom left handed rifle? Why the hell are all these guns always made for rightys? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe from WY Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 17 minutes ago, mysfit said: Is someone suffering from depression insane? Of course not. Many same people suffer from mental health issues. Sanity does not equate with mental health. Sanity also doesn't equate with shooting massive amounts of people at random. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 2 hours ago, Joe from WY said: I've known a lot of angry, hate-filled and entitled people. They didn't strike me as mass shooters. You have to be an extra gear of crazy (beyond behavior) to go shoot a bunch of people. Well as long as we confine the analysis to only people you've met, we can cease our inquiry here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 5 minutes ago, Joe from WY said: Sanity also doesn't equate with shooting massive amounts of people at random. Yeah, you keep repeating this, professor. EDIT: There's nothing "Random" about driving 900 miles in an effort to shoot what you consider illegal border-jumpers. That's an ideological killing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe from WY Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 Just now, Orange said: Yeah, you keep repeating this, professor. How is your manifesto coming along Mr. Betts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 49 minutes ago, AndroidAggie said: He's new. And doesn't read. He may also have dementia. Dude's old af. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSUTOP25 Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 5 minutes ago, Joe from WY said: Sanity also doesn't equate with shooting massive amounts of people at random. It also doesn’t equate to those who: - Lack genuine empathy, remorse, or guilt - Disregard consequences that don’t involve themselves - Are self-serving and narcissistic - Create a false external persona to mask internal shortcomings - Have a grandiose sense of self - Become outraged by insignificant matters - Lie about being an attorney while working as a fry cook at Burgerville USA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 56 minutes ago, rudolro said: Sound familiar? El Paso shooter was definitely his disciple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharkTanked Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 1 hour ago, BSUTOP25 said: It also doesn’t equate to those who: - Lack genuine empathy, remorse, or guilt - Disregard consequences that don’t involve themselves - Are self-serving and narcissistic - Create a false external persona to mask internal shortcomings - Have a grandiose sense of self - Become outraged by insignificant matters - Lie about being an attorney while working as a fry cook at Burgerville USA I was totally gonna call Trump until your last point... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sactowndog Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 10 hours ago, #1Stunner said: He shot up a bunch of people. He was associated with a group that advocates violence. This isn't rocket science. The first thing the police will look at is if someone like this associates with radical groups that espouse and use violence. He did. Doesn't matter if the group is a radical right or radical left group. I'm sure the investigation will further examine if he was radicalized. I'm not sure if the answer is clear yet or if we can draw conclusions. My son in law is from Dayton, it was a stressful day or two insuring friends and family weren’t affected. He knows the bar personally and thought the guy may be a white nationalist because it’s a mostly black bar. Instead he was just a completely +++++ed up kid that should never have access to firearms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 People on the left don't make inflamatory remarks towards innocent groups of people and support gun control NOT taking away 2nd ammendment rights. Antifa, Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders didn't have anything to do with motivating this guy. This is not comparable to Gilroy and El Paso where the shooters were clearly motivated by and left manifestos repeating Trump's ideology, word for word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebelbacker Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 24 minutes ago, Rocket said: People on the left don't make inflamatory remarks towards innocent groups of people and support gun control NOT taking away 2nd ammendment rights. Antifa, Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders didn't have anything to do with motivating this guy. This is not comparable to Gilroy and El Paso where the shooters were clearly motivated by and left manifestos repeating Trump's ideology, word for word. In addition, a Twitter account that appears to belong to Betts retweeted extreme left-wing and anti-police posts, as well as tweets supporting Antifa, or anti-fascist, protesters The account retweeted messages supporting Sens. Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren, as well as posts against ICE agents, including one that said, "these people are monsters," and multiple posts condemning police, and supporting Antifa protesters, who often use violent tactics. https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/05/us/connor-betts-dayton-shooting-profile/index.html “Kill every fascist,” the shooter declared in 2018 on twitter, echoing a rallying cry of antifa ideologues. Over the next year, his tweets became increasingly violent. “Nazis deserve death and nothing else,” he tweeted last October. Betts frequently flung the label “Nazi” at those with whom he disagreed online. By December, he reached out on Twitter to the Socialist Rifle Association, an antifa gun group, to comment about bump stocks, and the SRA responded to him. (A bump stock is an attachment for semiautomatic rifles that allow them to fire much faster.) In the months leading to his rampage, Betts expressed a longing for climactic confrontation. In response to an essay by Intercept writer Mehdi Hassan titled, “Yes, Let’s Defeat or Impeach Trump—but What If He Doesn’t Leave the White House?” the shooter wrote: “Arm, train, prepare.” By June he tweeted: “I want socialism, and I’ll not wait for the idiots to finally come round understanding.” Last week, he promoted posts that demonized Sens. Ted Cruz and Bill Cassidy’s resolution against antifa extremism. https://nypost.com/2019/08/06/dayton-shooter-may-be-antifas-first-mass-killer/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe from WY Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 Anyone found his album yet? https://news.vice.com/en_us/article/j5yekp/exclusive-dayton-shooter-was-in-a-pornogrind-band-that-released-songs-about-raping-and-killing-women Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 Nowhere in the twisted propaganda does it say Sanders Warren or Antifa said anything remotely close to what he has said. “Kill every fascist,” the shooter declared in 2018 on twitter, echoing a rallying cry of antifa ideologues" This is a lie, not fact, unlike what we see with your hero, we have VIDEO of him inciting violence. The OP is trying to create a false equivelancy with this nonsense and everyone sees that, that's why you're not getting any traction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...