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40 minutes ago, soupslam1 said:

The Iran deal was similar to Obama’s trade for Bergdahl. Five high level terrorists for an American deserter. On top of the piss poor Iran deal he gives Iran billions in cash to fund more terrorist attacks. Yeah that Obama was a real deal maker. He was one our worst presidents ever in regard to foreign policy. 

Thank god they didn't let him scrap healthcare for some super secret better deal or we would be in the same position there.   It is easy to say you will do so much better but he literally had no plan with what to do after he destroyed what was in place.   Bitching and destroying what is in place isn't a plan.  Building a law or an agreement is much harder than shitting on one.   That is why Trump has gotten pretty much zero done except for constant racist chaos.

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52 minutes ago, Akkula said:

Thank god they didn't let him scrap healthcare for some super secret better deal or we would be in the same position there.   It is easy to say you will do so much better but he literally had no plan with what to do after he destroyed what was in place.   Bitching and destroying what is in place isn't a plan.  Building a law or an agreement is much harder than shitting on one.   That is why Trump has gotten pretty much zero done except for constant racist chaos.

Scrapping Obama care and going back to a capitalist system would be better for everyone.

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What is it about the last 70 years of North Korea policy and the last 40 years of Iran policy that has been so successful that it's worth preserving?

 

https://mosaicmagazine.com/observation/politics-current-affairs/2019/06/what-iran-is-really-up-to/

 

 

“Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts.”

-Richard Feynman

"When buying and selling are controlled by legislation, the first things to be bought and sold are legislators."

-P.J. O’Rourke

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3 hours ago, SDSUfan said:

What is it about the last 70 years of North Korea policy and the last 40 years of Iran policy that has been so successful that it's worth preserving?

 

https://mosaicmagazine.com/observation/politics-current-affairs/2019/06/what-iran-is-really-up-to/

 

 

Trump is a political arsonist.   He took 70 years of diplomacy and burned it to the ground.  Now he only has ashes and cannot build anything from everything he destroyed. 

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2 hours ago, Akkula said:

Trump is a political arsonist.   He took 70 years of diplomacy and burned it to the ground.  Now he only has ashes and cannot build anything from everything he destroyed. 

So you can't answer the question.

I could answer it for you.  HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA!

But your emotions fail you again.

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4 hours ago, Akkula said:

Trump is a political arsonist.   He took 70 years of diplomacy and burned it to the ground.  Now he only has ashes and cannot build anything from everything he destroyed. 

What has seventy years of diplomacy accomplished? When Trump took office, NK was testing long range vehicles capable of delivering a nuclear warhead.

So, to summarize the LAST 70 YEARS.

NK is still a belligerent, at war with the west

We are still expending blood and treasure defending SK

NK has a fully functioning nuclear weapons program

NK has developed  long range launch vehicles

 

NONE OF THIS HAPPENED UNDER TRUMP

ALL OF THIS HAS HAPPENED UNDER THE LAST SEVENTY YEARS OF "DIPLOMACY"

I guess you, with your out and out hatred of America, would want the status quo to prevail.  The 5th column rides.

 

 

 

 

 

“Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts.”

-Richard Feynman

"When buying and selling are controlled by legislation, the first things to be bought and sold are legislators."

-P.J. O’Rourke

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4 hours ago, SDSUfan said:

What has seventy years of diplomacy accomplished? When Trump took office, NK was testing long range vehicles capable of delivering a nuclear warhead.

So, to summarize the LAST 70 YEARS.

NK is still a belligerent, at war with the west

We are still expending blood and treasure defending SK

NK has a fully functioning nuclear weapons program

NK has developed  long range launch vehicles

 

NONE OF THIS HAPPENED UNDER TRUMP

ALL OF THIS HAS HAPPENED UNDER THE LAST SEVENTY YEARS OF "DIPLOMACY"

I guess you, with your out and out hatred of America, would want the status quo to prevail.  The 5th column rides.

 

 

 

 

 

And what has Trump done to improve on the prior status quo?   We are in a worse place with China and Iran and we haven't managed to do anything but elevate Kim while denigrating our global allies.  Now the Europeans don't want to follow our lead on Iran and won't help us in our trade dispute with China.  Arson and chaos isn't a plan and that is why he is flailing.  We would be better off if we could reset all these relationships to the day before he got into office. 

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17 hours ago, soupslam1 said:

The Iran deal was similar to Obama’s trade for Bergdahl. Five high level terrorists for an American deserter. On top of the piss poor Iran deal he gives Iran billions in cash to fund more terrorist attacks. Yeah that Obama was a real deal maker. He was one our worst presidents ever in regard to foreign policy. 

LOL!

You really said this about the president who got Bin Laden.  :lol:

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5 hours ago, Akkula said:

And what has Trump done to improve on the prior status quo?   We are in a worse place with China and Iran and we haven't managed to do anything but elevate Kim while denigrating our global allies.  Now the Europeans don't want to follow our lead on Iran and won't help us in our trade dispute with China.  Arson and chaos isn't a plan and that is why he is flailing.  We would be better off if we could reset all these relationships to the day before he got into office. 

First off, don't use "we". You are not part of "we". You are Anti-American

 It's inevitable that when you challenge and confront your enemies instead of appeasing them, you are going to be in a "worse place".  China's economy has slowed significantly since tariffs were introduced THEY are in a worse place. Iran, a Gangster State is back to it's old ways of terrorism, sabotage and hostage taking all in order to get the agreement  re-instituted. THEY are in a worse place.  I would ask you to use a little critical thinking to try and understand WHY they would so desperately want that agreement re-instated but you have not shown in capacity to think critically. You are after all a phuking communist which means you are either retarded, evil  or both and therefore incapable of thinking critically.  I'm going with retarded. 

Zero shits given as to what the Euros think.  it isn't their sons and daughters  whose blood will be spilled putting a nuclear enabled, mullah led Iran back in its box.  They'll follow or suffer sanction.  AND they have followed.

 

“Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts.”

-Richard Feynman

"When buying and selling are controlled by legislation, the first things to be bought and sold are legislators."

-P.J. O’Rourke

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6 minutes ago, SDSUfan said:

First off, don't use "we". You are not part of "we". You are Anti-American

 It's inevitable that when you challenge and confront your enemies instead of appeasing them, you are going to be in a "worse place".  China's economy has slowed significantly since tariffs were introduced THEY are in a worse place. Iran, a Gangster State is back to it's old ways of terrorism, sabotage and hostage taking all in order to get the agreement  re-instituted. THEY are in a worse place.  I would ask you to use a little critical thinking to try and understand WHY they would so desperately want that agreement re-instated but you have not shown in capacity to think critically. You are after all a phuking communist which means you are either retarded, evil  or both and therefore incapable of thinking critically.  I'm going with retarded. 

Zero shits given as to what the Euros think.  it isn't their sons and daughters  whose blood will be spilled putting a nuclear enabled, mullah led Iran back in its box.  They'll follow or suffer sanction.  AND they have followed.

 

It is too bad "you people" don't like green energy and energy independence.  Perhaps you wouldn't have to spill all this blood in all these wars you guys like to get into all the time.  

I am sorry you got sold snake oil like the rest of his marks.

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20 hours ago, Akkula said:

Thank god they didn't let him scrap healthcare for some super secret better deal or we would be in the same position there.   It is easy to say you will do so much better but he literally had no plan with what to do after he destroyed what was in place.   Bitching and destroying what is in place isn't a plan.  Building a law or an agreement is much harder than shitting on one.   That is why Trump has gotten pretty much zero done except for constant racist chaos.

 

He's "...has gotten...(something else) done."

DJT has:

     * Trashed Environmental Laws

     * Sped-Up Global Warming

    * Gifted a HUGE Tax Windfall to Corps & the Ultra-Wealth

 

 

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19 hours ago, bluerules009 said:

Scrapping Obama care and going back to a capitalist system would be better for everyone.

 

Expect for Western Europe & the rest of the industrialized world...

 

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1 hour ago, SDSUfan said:

First off, don't use "we". You are not part of "we". You are Anti-American

 It's inevitable that when you challenge and confront your enemies instead of appeasing them, you are going to be in a "worse place".  China's economy has slowed significantly since tariffs were introduced THEY are in a worse place. Iran, a Gangster State is back to it's old ways of terrorism, sabotage and hostage taking all in order to get the agreement  re-instituted. THEY are in a worse place.  I would ask you to use a little critical thinking to try and understand WHY they would so desperately want that agreement re-instated but you have not shown in capacity to think critically. You are after all a phuking communist which means you are either retarded, evil  or both and therefore incapable of thinking critically.  I'm going with retarded. 

Zero shits given as to what the Euros think.  it isn't their sons and daughters  whose blood will be spilled putting a nuclear enabled, mullah led Iran back in its box.  They'll follow or suffer sanction.  AND they have followed.

 

 

Thank God you're here to define what is/is not "American."

 

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3 hours ago, Joe from WY said:

Obama didn't kill Bin Laden. The CIA did. 

 

Since when is the CIA an autonomous from the Executive Branch?

The CIA's Bin Laden mission was operating independently from the Commander in Chief? 

 

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Just now, GoState99755 said:

 

Since when is the CIA an autonomous from the Executive Branch?

The CIA's Bin Laden mission was operating independently from the Commander in Chief? 

 

All I know is there was a heated argument between the CIA and the State Department in the Situation Room when Bin Laden was cornered in his compound and the State Department wanted him alive and the CIA wanted him dead and the CIA won out. 

And I don't think the CIA really takes orders from anyone in particular. 

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28 minutes ago, GoState99755 said:

 

He's "...has gotten...(something else) done."

DJT has:

     * Trashed Environmental Laws

     * Sped-Up Global Warming

    * Gifted a HUGE Tax Windfall to Corps & the Ultra-Wealth

 

 

So, basically he is a typical Bush republican with a racist twitter account?  All he needs to do is get us into another middle eastern war.  

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1 hour ago, GoState99755 said:

 

He's "...has gotten...(something else) done."

DJT has:

     * Trashed Environmental Laws

     * Sped-Up Global Warming

    * Gifted a HUGE Tax Windfall to Corps & the Ultra-Wealth

 

 

Donald sped up global warming?  

Damn, he sure is an evil bastard.  

I thought we were past global warming and had moved on to climate change.  I think they changed the verbiage up a little so you guys can also blame snow storms on republicans and not just heat waves. 

"Don't underestimate Joe Biden's ability to F@*k things up."

Barack Obama

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