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52 minutes ago, Jackrabbit said:

A Marshall plan involving corrupt central American govts absolutely won't work.  

Yeah, it worked involving corrupt Greek and Italian governments. Why do you think it wouldn't work other than you don't like the idea?

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19 hours ago, pokebball said:

so how many white supremacists do you think there are in america?

Sadly many more that I thought existed 4 years ago.   One good thing about Trump is he has brought the roaches from out of the dark.

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On 4/14/2019 at 6:38 AM, modestobulldog said:

Do you support voter ID requirements?

More or less.   But let's be honest some states will use them to try to restrict the vote.   So I would but ID requirements in the Judiciary and out of the hands of the legislature.

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18 minutes ago, happycamper said:

Yeah, it worked involving corrupt Greek and Italian governments. Why do you think it wouldn't work other than you don't like the idea?

 

Reasons well only a few for a thinking person.

 

1) They don't need to be rebuilt after a war.

2) We aren't changing the governments and we don't have our foot on their throats like we did during the aftermath of WWII.

3)  They have been aid from us year after year for decades and it has not produced the results in place.

4)  Corrupt catholic based governments will never change they are disasters across the world.

5) unless you are willing to invade, overthrow the governments, hold them in the status of a police state for a decade or more to keep the pro american government in place.   It is very unlikely to work.

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18 minutes ago, bluerules009 said:

4)  Corrupt catholic based governments will never change they are disasters across the world.

Except none of them (Guatemala, El Salvador, and Honduras) are Catholic based governments.

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1 hour ago, happycamper said:

Yeah, it worked involving corrupt Greek and Italian governments. Why do you think it wouldn't work other than you don't like the idea?

I have said before that we should take care of people elsewhere.  

I have a feeling the military administered most of the dollars just after ww2.  There were no working govts in either place.  If it were left up to our current state dept or would be a disaster....as bad as iraQ. 

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2 hours ago, sactowndog said:

Sadly many more that I thought existed 4 years ago.   One good thing about Trump is he has brought the roaches from out of the dark.

Is this rhetorical?  Nobody seems to have a number.

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1 hour ago, Jackrabbit said:

I have said before that we should take care of people elsewhere.  

I have a feeling the military administered most of the dollars just after ww2.  There were no working govts in either place.  If it were left up to our current state dept or would be a disaster....as bad as iraQ. 

Always good to base fiscal policy on feelings

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1 hour ago, bsu_alum9 said:

Except none of them (Guatemala, El Salvador, and Honduras) are Catholic based governments.

Except they all are.

They are all former Spanish colonies the inheritance of catholic government is a destroyer of the future of any country.  Even states like Louisiana, Provinces like Quebec, territories like Puerto Rico.   All are the most worthless and corrupt governments of their countries.

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13 hours ago, IanforHeisman said:

Every white supremacist organization in America supports Trump. He made it comfortable to be openly racist again. He knew the bogeyman to the white 40+ male crowd was the brown man and he played on their fears perfectly. They’re scared America is gentrifying. 

 

I cant imagine being on the same side of Neo Nazi’s and white supremacist groups and thinking this is fine.. As long as he demonizes brown people trying to cross the border for a better life, his supporters will justify any level of corruption.

Just when I think you can’t say anything dumber, you outdo yourself. What a dumb phuck you are. Who in the hell is on the same side of Nazis and white supremicist groups? You do realize thousands of white soldiers died in WW2 to defeat the Nazis and their so called superior race. White people think of those groups the same as minorities do. Those groups are ignorant dumb shit assholes just like you.

Your own racism is coming through loud and clear. Most people are not demonizing brown people for being brown. Most people want immigrants to go through the proper channels to become legal citizens. Most people do not want to pay taxes so they can have free use of our emergency rooms and our welfare system. 

So if you want to keep calling most white people that support Trump, Nazis and racists, I’ll lump your dumb phuck ass in with groups like Nazis and racists. Think about it, you talk and act the same way as those groups do. 

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3 hours ago, sactowndog said:

Sadly many more that I thought existed 4 years ago.   One good thing about Trump is he has brought the roaches from out of the dark.

And exposed the true corrupt Socialist Democrat party and biased media for what they really are. It took a lot of goading by Trump, and we knew it was always there, but it has finally surfaced front and center. 

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3 hours ago, bluerules009 said:

 

Reasons well only a few for a thinking person.

 

1) They don't need to be rebuilt after a war.

Um... yes, they do. They've all had decade long civil wars. Where have you been?

3 hours ago, bluerules009 said:

2) We aren't changing the governments and we don't have our foot on their throats like we did during the aftermath of WWII.

What are you talking about? We were the ones who effectuate most of the coups in Central America. We have had our feet on their throats for more than a century.

3 hours ago, bluerules009 said:

3)  They have been aid from us year after year for decades and it has not produced the results in place.

I do one push up every day, what, you say if I do 100 a day I'll get different results?

3 hours ago, bluerules009 said:

4)  Corrupt catholic based governments will never change they are disasters across the world.

Yes, that corrupt Swiss government is well known. Also, What do you think Italy is?

3 hours ago, bluerules009 said:

5) unless you are willing to invade, overthrow the governments, hold them in the status of a police state for a decade or more to keep the pro american government in place.   It is very unlikely to work.

Invade? What are you talking about? Blues do you honestly know nothing of the history of Central America?

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On 4/12/2019 at 10:13 PM, edluvar said:

I mean the state that has the 5th largest economy in the world.  Would be even bigger if they were not paying so much welfare to midwestern states.  We should give them more voting power by bussing more people there. 

As a general rule California is a paradise if you are at least a multi millionaire and live on the coast. Get inland, and the rest of the state is a Shithole. 

 

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2 hours ago, happycamper said:

Always good to base fiscal policy on feelings

I have another feeling I am right.

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2 hours ago, soupslam1 said:

And exposed the true corrupt Socialist Democrat party and biased media for what they really are. It took a lot of goading by Trump, and we knew it was always there, but it has finally surfaced front and center. 

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2 hours ago, happycamper said:

Um... yes, they do. They've all had decade long civil wars. Where have you been?

 

Of their own making.   We haven't fucked with them since the 80's.

2 hours ago, happycamper said:

 

What are you talking about? We were the ones who effectuate most of the coups in Central America. We have had our feet on their throats for more than a century.

 

Yeah 40+ years ago.   We need a marshal plan from England they +++++ed with us in 1812.

There problems were there before us and haven't changed either way.    We had no effect.

2 hours ago, happycamper said:

I do one push up every day, what, you say if I do 100 a day I'll get different results?

We have been giving them millions each year.

You do a million push ups you will get results.

2 hours ago, happycamper said:

 

Yes, that corrupt Swiss government is well known. Also, What do you think Italy is?

 

Both founded were countries long before Catholicism existed.  They are not a catholic past colony of Spain, France or one of the other catholic countries.

Italy is not an example you really want to use.  It has more resources than California and is one of the most fucked up corrupt governments in the world.  Even though they have separated themselves from the Vatican.

The cause of corruption of these states cannot be argued by anyone with a knowledge of history.

2 hours ago, happycamper said:

 

Invade? What are you talking about? Blues do you honestly know nothing of the history of Central America?

I think you are delusional.

We haven't invaded any of these countries in decades.   We have been giving them millions.

They would be better off if we invaded them but it doesn't matter.  The local corruption prohibits a marshal plan from ever having success.   

 

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1 hour ago, bornontheblue said:

As a general rule California is a paradise if you are at least a multi millionaire and live on the coast. Get inland, and the rest of the state is a Shithole. 

 

Something someone who doesn't know about Lake Tahoe, the Sierra Nevada range, Big Bear, Yosemite etc. would say. Spoken like a true ignoramus.

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3 hours ago, soupslam1 said:

And exposed the true corrupt Socialist Democrat party and biased media for what they really are. It took a lot of goading by Trump, and we knew it was always there, but it has finally surfaced front and center. 

If I had to choose between socialism and racism..........yep being a socialist is not as bad as being a racist.   

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46 minutes ago, DoubleBlueGold said:

Something someone who doesn't know about Lake Tahoe, the Sierra Nevada range, Big Bear, Yosemite etc. would say. Spoken like a true ignoramus.

Those are all shitholes to and only a true ignoramus would think they compare to similar places in other states.   Too many people, too much trash, to much impact on the environment from all those people.  The flavor of the outdoors doesn't exist in California.

Spend 5 minutes hiking from the road in Yellowstone or some time in the Selway or Bitterroots or really any national forest outside of California and you might actually figure out what wilderness is.

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38 minutes ago, edluvar said:

If I had to choose between socialism and racism..........yep being a socialist is not as bad as being a racist.   

Lucky for you there was no choice, you have embraced both.

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