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POLL: Should the next MWC TV Deal allow schools to own their own Tier 3 Rights?

Should the next MWC TV Deal allow schools to own their own Tier 3 Rights?  

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  1. 1. Should the next MWC TV Deal allow schools to own their own Tier 3 Rights?

    • YES. Schools should get to own and sell their own TV rights for any games not picked up by ESPN or CBS Sports (or whatever major network)
    • NO. Schools should not get to keep their tier 3 TV rights. The entire MWC Tier 3 Rights should be packaged together, and sold to a tier 3 network (Stadium, Root, etc)


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21 hours ago, #1Stunner said:

They don't have any fans, though.

I'm talking more about the big market teams with fans---SDSU, UNLV, UNM (who else am I missing?).   Maybe in Wyoming could sell games across local OTA TV in the whole State?

So, it might help a few large market schools. How about the smaller market schools, how would it help them?

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5 minutes ago, renoskier said:

So, it might help a few large market schools. How about the smaller market schools, how would it help them?

It wouldn't.

It's free market.

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27 minutes ago, renoskier said:

No, a conference is a socialist commune.

Or we could all be independent like BYU:shrug:

I think you may be missing the point. 

This is talking about ownership of tier 3 rights.

It is not uncommon for schools to own their own tier 3 rights, after the Conferences' main contract with ESPN or FOX or some other network.   This is how the WCC operates (schools own their own tier 3 rights).   Also the Big12, I believe.

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26 minutes ago, #1Stunner said:

I think you may be missing the point. 

This is talking about ownership of tier 3 rights.

It is not uncommon for schools to own their own tier 3 rights, after the Conferences' main contract with ESPN or FOX or some other network.   This is how the WCC operates (schools own their own tier 3 rights).   Also the Big12, I believe.

I know it's not unheard of but I'm also sure that there are differing opinions on what can maximize revenue for all schools.

Some conferences, including the MWC have come to the conclusion that this is the best way.

Don't you think conferences analyze this on a regular basis?

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42 minutes ago, renoskier said:

I know it's not unheard of but I'm also sure that there are differing opinions on what can maximize revenue for all schools.

Some conferences, including the MWC have come to the conclusion that this is the best way.

Don't you think conferences analyze this on a regular basis?

Not Hair Thompson, no.

I think he just makes stuff up as he goes along.

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Basically, the conference has proven unable to monetize it's T3 rights, such that some schools (Hawaii and Boise) can bring in more than the entire conference is getting combined.  If the conference can't get the appropriate value, then it's necessary to just give them back to the schools to do what they can.

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3 hours ago, renoskier said:

So, it might help a few large market schools. How about the smaller market schools, how would it help them?

Since apparently nobody will ever get kicked out of the MWC, the way to rid the conference of proven deadwood or potential deadwood is to implement a system like this.

If a school can't survive without obtaining 1/11 (UH excluded) of the conference's collective tier 3 income, it can leave for the Big Sky or similar environs. Simple as that.

Boom goes the dynamite.

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54 minutes ago, WAC_FAN said:

Basically, the conference has proven unable to monetize it's T3 rights, such that some schools (Hawaii and Boise) can bring in more than the entire conference is getting combined.  If the conference can't get the appropriate value, then it's necessary to just give them back to the schools to do what they can.

Not just those two schools. As per my post above, HALF of the conference could undoubtedly do better on their own and a few others would likely do just about as well.

There's an old saying that goes "Those who can, do; those who can't, teach." To borrow from that, "Those who can, do; those who can't join the Mountain West Conference."

(Not trying to bag on teachers although I would say that I can never understand how the 80% or so of those who do their job in an excellent or very good way in the public schools keep supporting the other 20% whose continued employment in the profession is detrimental to the national interest in a quality education for all.)

Boom goes the dynamite.

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The smaller market teams could pool their T3 with Root Sports, specifically the MTN teams.  SDSU could negotiate our own T3 with the local station and we would benefit from them plugging our games during the week.  If I'm not mistaken having T3 games will allow us to negotiate our own starting times as well.  Night games have been a big deterrent for family attendance.        

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19 hours ago, SleepingGiantsFan said:

When was the last time a serious poll on this board resulted in 90% of the votes being for one choice?

Probably when the mwcboard votred @Loboblast off the island. 

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And everyone is assuming that our Tier 1 rights will result in TV viewership.  Be prepared for the whole conference to land where you think you'd like to put tier 3.  I suspect we are looking at another ground breaking, earth shattering, step into anonymity.  We're the MWC, it's what we do.

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29 minutes ago, Headbutt said:

And everyone is assuming that our Tier 1 rights will result in TV viewership.  Be prepared for the whole conference to land where you think you'd like to put tier 3.  I suspect we are looking at another ground breaking, earth shattering, step into anonymity.  We're the MWC, it's what we do.

Yet Craig Thompson continues to keep his job.

The only explanation is that, as did J. Edgar Hoover with members of Congress, Thompson knows where skeletons of MWC presidents are buried and they know that he knows.

Boom goes the dynamite.

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On 2/13/2019 at 12:23 PM, SleepingGiantsFan said:

The same would presumably be true of SJSU and any other schools whose tier 3 rights aren't worth diddly squat.

pokebball may be correct that SDSU has no statewide following to speak of but studies show SDSU is numero uno in SD, Riverside and Imperial counties and while that might be theoretically just 3/58th of California, those counties hold ten times as many people as the entire state of Wyoming. In saying no intent is meant to suggest UW's tier 3 rights have no value since although the state has only half a million people, almost nobody there follows a university besides UW.

This would be my guesstimate of the relative value of MWC schools' tier 3 rights:

High P6 Value
AFA 
Boise
Fresno
SDSU
UNLV
UNM

Avg P6 Value
CSU
Hawaii
Nevada
Wyoming

Low P6 Value
USU

Avg Big Sky Value
SJSU

If I'm correct about that, in addition to SJSU, USU would be likely to oppose allowing schools to retain their tier 3 rights, Hawaii wouldn't are, and CSU, Nevada and Wyoming might be swing votes.

Also, when this idea was debated a couple years ago, I suggested it would be in the best interests of the conference to also create a distribution formula based on football success as an incentive for schools to want to improve their programs in that sport. As to that killing the conference, all that would mean was an acceleration of the inevitable.

You got to be +++++ing kidding me. Hawaii already makes more TV tier 3 money than what ALL of the MWC schools on your Tier 1 deal.

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